Elements - The Card Game

[Draegan]

It's a small MtG type game.  Easy and free.  Pretty fun too.

http://elementsthegame.com/

I like it.

[schild]

Saw it last week. It is kinda spiffy. Not sure why it's free though. Other than being relatively rudimentary, with some polish it would be ripe for RMT.

[Draegan]

Yea they decks look very limited, and I don't know what all the options looks like.  I have a Time/Death deck that I started off with.  I've modified it a little bit.  Not sure where cards that arn't in the bazaar come from though other than rolling after a win.

[Delmania]

Whoa, nice, trying to find my way around this.

[Delmania]

Stupid question, do the attacks from creatures go directly to your health?   So there's no way to tell a creature to attack another creature outside of a skill?

[Draegan]

Correct.  There are some cards that target something, or some of the creatures abilities target others.

[jason]

Its fairly easy to build decks that will win nearly 100% of NPC fights levels 1-3 (Aether seems to be the easiest to do it with).  Once you've done that the game gets boring unless you get into PVP matches.

[Musashi]

I failed at resiting this game.

[Mosesandstick]

Me too.

Are you playing other people when you play the TOP 50?

[tazelbain]

Presentation wise - it is very good, but I felt like the game plays itself.

[Musashi]

Me too.

Are you playing other people when you play the TOP 50?

No.  You're just playing their decks.

When you get to five hundred points, you get the option to upgrade your cards for 1500 coins each.  It's one of those things that I'll enjoy doing, even though I know there's no way in hell I'll be playing long enough to get all my cards upgraded.

[Mosesandstick]

That's what I thought. I had problems finding a Top 50 deck yesterday though, no clue why!

Game needs to be balanced though. I find poison a real annoyance unless I use cleanse, in which case poison becomes trivial  .

[schild]

I run an all poison deck, essentially. With a few mutations thrown in for good measure when I have enough Chryoseras out. That said:



Frightening. Want one.

[Delmania]

So, you're Death/Water then?  I am Death/Gravity.  As for the shields, that one is nice, but there's one that makes all attackas have a 50% chance to miss you...

[Jerrith]

Neat, played this a bunch today, ended up trying time at first, didn't do well, so switched to poison (death/water), and proceeded to do quite well.  Got up to 500 and picked my rare weapon.

Tried some PVP, but every single match I played resulted in me losing.  :(  Split about 50/50 between games where a) my opponent had multiple upgraded cards (I had none), and b) my opponent turned on some sort of cheat (no, not using miracle) that resulted in him getting full life back after every turn, just before I would have won.  At least, it looked like a cheat, and didn't fit the description of any of the cards on the wiki that I saw...

I guess I need to grind more on level 3, or put together an elder god capable deck...  Still, a very fun game to play against the AI (which isn't *that* bad). :)

[Mosesandstick]

I'm using a critter/mutation deck. It's a lot of fun but kind of unpredictable. Something radical about being able to have a 8/8 (or higher!) creature on the first turn  .

[Musashi]

I'm using a fire/gravity with a little bit of earth thown in.  Almost all my creatures are able to gain power over rounds.  It does great against everything but time.  The ability to put my cards back in the deck after I waste my points upgrading them fucks me rough and deep.  And it seems like the AI just loves to use time.

The PvP matching system needs to do a better job not putting noobs against upgraded decks to get smoked in two rounds.  I haven't run into anybody hacking and refreshing after every round yet, but I've only played a dozen or so pvp games.

[gryeyes]

Fun game, sucks that im awful at it.

[Jerrith]

One more interesting thing I found, after looking around a bit...

In an effort to discourage cheating, the developer of the game has also put up a version on his site that let's you do everything but PVP and saving with almost unlimited card access and free/instant money.  http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer.html  I believe there are just 4 cards you can't get instantly, meaning you can try out almost every deck, fully upgraded, very quickly.

Neat idea.  Impressed me.

[Musashi]

Yea.  I played a little more PvP today.  The matchmaking system is what is currently ruing it.  3/4 of the matches are way out of my noob possibilities atm.  Not cool.  I mean it isn't really that harsh.  I don't lose that many points if I lose to some crazy dude.  But it isn't really fun to get destroyed either.

[gryeyes]

Trying to get a score of 500, and failing horribly.

[Mosesandstick]

Thanks Jerrith, I thought I'd be able to stop playing...

Have you played any other CGs gry? Have you got the right balance of mana/creatures/spells/permanents/etc.?

[gryeyes]

I really dont play CG's but I have the very basics of understanding, part of the problem is that i am making rainbow deck using quantum pillars. Ive got it fairly balanced now and am trying on the "get a score of 500". Got to 475 and then lost so got dropped to 350. Is there a golden ratio concerning card types in a deck?


Whats going on with the "Random" abilities that sometimes get tagged to a creature?

[Musashi]

Yea, a rainbow deck isn't gonna work.

Basically you need to feel like there's enough pillars in your deck so that you're not wanting for points.  You need to get a feel for how many creatures you need in your deck so that you're not wanting for them on a regular basis.  Then start looking for synergies between a couple different types of decks.  For example, one of my creatures has an ability 'grow' and he'll grow in power if I use an stone point each round.  Problem is, in order to play him I need to use fire points.  So I need to have fire pillars, as well as the stone pillars to use him.  You could accomplish this with the random 'quantum' pillars they start you out with too, but I find that it's much better to replace those with pillars you know you're going to need.  With the quantum pillars, you have to hope they show up, then you have to hope they put the points in the right place.

Here's my deck:



After I got where I wanted with the stone dudes (It helped my decision that I randomly won the stone uber weapon that uses gravity points), I saw that there were a couple dudes in gravity that had synergy with fire too, so I started working on them.  One grows by eating other cards if it has higher HP.  The other grows using the fire points that I already had.

You definitely don't need to do it this way, but you definitely don't want any more than three or four types of cards in your deck.  I see a lot of decks that are just one type of card, and don't have the full 60 cards.  They just focus on one type and therefore have a better probability of doing what that type of card is good at because they don't have a bunch of extraneous shit in their decks.

[gryeyes]

Can we play each other directly?

Edit: We can, if anyone wants to mess around my name is "orko"

[Threash]

This is fun.  Now that i came up with a deck that can win at lvl 3 more often than not that is.  Vultures (0/1, gains 1/1 for each creature that dies) + otyugh (0/3 can insta kill anything with lower hps than itself, gains 1/1 each time) and sparks (2/0, free to use and dies at the end of that turn) is all i use, works like a charm most of the time.

[Threash]

I really need some upgraded weapons, 7 damage a round just owns.

[gryeyes]

The ones with "destroy" for a couple mana are insane. The poison spear is likewise insane.

[Threash]

The ones with "destroy" for a couple mana are insane. The poison spear is likewise insane.

Just ran into the poison spear for the first time... wow that was ridiculous.  I had no chance even with him not being able to get a single creature out.

[Musashi]

So far, poison, wind, and time are the hardest for me to beat.  Also the vulture guys with the Boneyard card.  But with those gravity otyugh guys, as long as you get them out quicly, you can beat anything.

[gryeyes]

At 430, so close now.

[Threash]

Bleh just lost at 470 to a deck very similar to mine.

[Draegan]

Rainbow Decks are the best actually.  It's the deck you use to farm False Gods for good cards.

Right now I'm running a pure darkness deck.

11x Pillars
6x Devourers (mana starve the bastards)
3x Steal
6x Vampire
6x Drain

I usually win with full health getting double the cash.

[Musashi]

Why are rainbow decks good for farming false gods?

[Aez]

Looks fun.  I'm not sure I like the forced synergies,  Maybe it will improve with more additional cards.