Guild Wars 2

[Zetor]

Prince Rurik! UNDEAD LICH! Master Togo! Danika!

Yeah, it was pretty memorable. In the 'Illidan in Well of Eternity' way, mind. 

Well, you remembered them. Quick, what was the name of the NPC that had you go talk to the sailor dude who wanted to go back to Ascalon?

Why are you trying to make me remember things from Prophecies 

Seriously though, things other than [the lack of] voiceacting make me remember quest stuff a lot more... in any game. Heck, I remember a lot of COH characters/storylines vividly, and that game's seriously VA-deficient!

[Nevermore]

Actually it was a Factions quest! 

[Fabricated]

Well Of Eternity has the best-worst voice acting in WoW, minus Hagara in Dragon Soul. Holy fuck, they managed to make a worse-sounding character than Sindragosa.

[Lantyssa]

Actually it was a Factions quest! 

I couldn't remember his name, but is it sad I knew which quest you were talking about?

[Kitsune]

I'm reminded to ask, GW1 players, how arduous is it to do the stuff that gets you special armor and weapons in GW2?  I played the GW open demo thing when it was first released for about an hour, said, "This is like a crappier Dungeon Siege," uninstalled it, and never played again.  I'm assuming that it's undergone some improvements since then, and I'm pretty interested in GW2, enough to grab the first one if I can bang out those achievements without too much of a hassle so I can have sweet glowing crystal stuff in the second game.

[Zetor]

Depends on how many points you want. Up to 10ish it's fairly trivial by just playing through the game normally (completing one of the campaigns + starting eye of the north); 15-20 isn't bad if you have a veteran account and some of your chars have 1st-6th birthday presents (unopened) that you can sell to other players for $. For 25+ you need :effort: and a lot of it!

[Sjofn]

Yeah, it was pretty memorable. In the 'Illidan in Well of Eternity' way, mind. 

I love Illidan's voice acting for that so hard. If I'm going to listen to terrible dialogue, I want it to be campy as fuck, dammit.

[Fabricated]

Yeah, it was pretty memorable. In the 'Illidan in Well of Eternity' way, mind.  

I love Illidan's voice acting for that so hard. If I'm going to listen to terrible dialogue, I want it to be campy as fuck, dammit.

Eeeel-EEE-Dan!

Why is Tyrande suddenly Russian? Are we killing Moosk and Squirel in the next raid?

[Fordel]

Yeah, it was pretty memorable. In the 'Illidan in Well of Eternity' way, mind.  

I love Illidan's voice acting for that so hard. If I'm going to listen to terrible dialogue, I want it to be campy as fuck, dammit.

Eeeel-EEE-Dan!

Why is Tyrande suddenly Russian? Are we killing Moosk and Squirel in the next raid?

No one fucking knows, it's even the lady doing the voice from War3.

[Bungee]

Based on Reddit activity I see that NDA is helping them out =p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-UZFu7yZEw
As big as a beta review/game preview as you'll get. For the tl,dw: start around the 35 minute mark for his final words.

[01101010]

I liked the vid... but holy fuck the rambling, I would zone out of listening to him prattle on then realize he was still talking which angered me.

[Bungee]

I liked the vid... but holy fuck the rambling, I would zone out of listening to him prattle on then realize he was still talking which angered me.

Well, the video really didn't have anything to do with what he said, I took it more as a podcast kind of message by him. And given that this guys really isn't known for getting in bed much with devs and pretty much says what he thinks, I find it pretty encouraging that he said the game feels "next gen MMO" and that he'll go with it.

[kildorn]

Yeah, the video has absolutely nothing to do with what he's rambling about, and the man loves to ramble. I kind of like TB's reviews, but the Yogs folks are doing a lot better with GW2.

Hell, TB spends the first five minutes talking about how he's only playing his thief so he can get awesome at it and show the pvp and high end pve with it. You'll notice the entire 40 minute video is a low level necro.

I sort of get his complaint that zone events don't feel as epic if they reset quickly, but I don't like his desire for essentially a single player experience by implying that he shouldn't see that event again. That just fails in an MMO when 20 people do an event, and the next 80 people to go through the zone never see the content because it's resetting.

[Sky]

I sort of get his complaint that zone events don't feel as epic if they reset quickly, but I don't like his desire for essentially a single player experience by implying that he shouldn't see that event again.

But then it's not MEANINGFUL.

TB is a wanker, Yogs are the guys.

[Bungee]

Hell, TB spends the first five minutes talking about how he's only playing his thief so he can get awesome at it and show the pvp and high end pve with it. You'll notice the entire 40 minute video is a low level necro.

That's because that's just random footage by his "cameraman". I do like Yogs a lot more than TB (they did party up though in the latest beta weekend to play through some events/quest lines) but TB also doesn't fail to honestly say what he thinks and the more opinions you can hear the better I guess. Until you actually get to play yourself that is of course.

[Sky]

WHat f13 needs is an Ironwood youtube channel.

[Crumbs]

WHat f13 needs is an Ironwood youtube channel.

I'd pay a sub fee for that 

[Tannhauser]

"It's all shite!" (tm)

[Tyrnan]

Some WvW keep defense action from the Yogcast boys. This looks like the kind of thing where I'll think "I'll just go do some quick WvW" then realise that 6 hours have gone by without me noticing  

Edit: And some (Thief) Utility Skills and Traits stuff from TB. Trait start around 15:30

[kildorn]

Wait wait.. did they just sit down and repair the door? Holy shit, they remade emain.

In all honesty, that world v world looks like a ton of fun.

[Tmon]

I don't give a crap about meaningful pvp but I do like fun pvp and that just looked plain fun. 

[Falconeer]

Sometimes with "meaningful" we mean that it's not just mindless bashing in a (large or not) arena/deathmatch for the sake of a scoreboard or an equip grind.
Having to conquer or defend keeps and gain territories as push back your enemies totally sits well with my personal definition of "meaningful PvP". Details are important, so are the intricacies of the system, but what has been shown so far is nothing short of exciting from a "meaningful PvP" persepctive. This is valid both for what Arenanet calls "Fun PvP" (the SvSvS part), and the "Competitive PvP" (the ranked arenas).

[kildorn]

Even if a keep isn't worth much (from the video, it's awarding their pvp points every N minutes for defense, and on success/failure?), I like having something to fight over. I really liked that the ice bow spell just dropped the bows on the ground for other people to use. No real ranged in your build for a siege? Here, have a bow with skills on it!

[Draegan]

So I made a graphic for my site to help confuse you into understanding the possibilities of combos in GW2.

I linked it due to the size, but it turned out way more confusing than I initially intended.  But it was a fun exercise in any case.  

[Crumbs]

So I made a graphic for my site to help confuse you into understanding the possibilities of combos in GW2.

I linked it due to the size, but it turned out way more confusing than I initially intended.  But it was a fun exercise in any case.  

"Whirl Whirl Whirl"    That is cool.

I've been holding back this next point because SWG is such an emotional topic, but I have to put it in:  SWG city base defense/invasions were some of the best PVP I've ever experienced and it was quite meaningful.  Pre-NGE of course.

On defense, it's your own city and you've worked hard to grind out the faction points to place the bases...pride, reputation, and accomplishment is on the line.  Now here come your rivals and it's up to you and your friends to defend.

On offense, it's time for payback with those assholes that came and blew up your base at 3am when nobody was on to defend it.  Gather forces, plan strategy, and go to THEIR city.  Over time, we got to know our rivals really well and the all-night battles created gaming friendships that last to this day.  Gear grinds never ever created that in my experience, actually quite the contrary: it makes people hate one another.

Player cities have somehow become the 3rd rail though, so I doubt to ever see this again.  However I am hoping GW2 achieves something similar.

[HaemishM]

That World v World video engenders this response:

Fuck it. Say goodbye to your friends that don't play the game, quit your fucking job, because your soul is now owned.

[kildorn]

They need to add some form of lightning based hammers to a class so I can convince ingmar to get excited about RvR.

[01101010]

That World v World video engenders this response:

Fuck it. Say goodbye to your friends that don't play the game, quit your fucking job, because your soul is now owned.

Well I do have 2 weeks vacation that I will need to take eventually... 

[Ingmar]

They need to add some form of lightning based hammers to a class so I can convince ingmar to get excited about RvR.

The RVR does look cool. The problem is, one side of the scales has RVR, the other side has all the other stuff I'm mad they changed or took out.

[Ard]

They need to add some form of lightning based hammers to a class so I can convince ingmar to get excited about RvR.

You mean this one that elementalists can summon for anyone else to use?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lightning_Hammer_%28environmental_weapon%29

[murdoc]

Oh, that keep defense video was awesome. WvW stuff looks like a lot of fun, so far.

Though, my favourite part of the video was when they go 'when did you learn to play videogames?'

[Sjofn]

They need to add some form of lightning based hammers to a class so I can convince ingmar to get excited about RvR.

You mean this one that elementalists can summon for anyone else to use?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lightning_Hammer_%28environmental_weapon%29

No, more like this:


Or perhaps like this:



Bonus spears:

[Ingmar]

Suck on that, Albs.

[Sjofn]

It's why Midgard was the coolest realm.

[murdoc]

LAGHAMMERS!