EQ 'Next'

[Pennilenko]

I think people are making a bit much out of the internet connection thing. To me it looks like they shot really high with the bandwidth requirements for two reasons:

1. They are going to have a lot of tracking stuff running during the alpha.
2. A high requirement leaves people no room to complain about lag during the phases where they are recording as much data from the clients as possible.

[Sky]

Here's my basic Time Warner cable connection, such a cap on upload: 16Mbps down, .85Mbps up. And thats with a DOCSIS 3 modem, they hand out DOCSIS 2 modems.

Darniaq, I think you're still thinking too metro if you think there is more than one broadband option in small cities. We have Time Warner or Time Warner. And oddly one road with FIOS (they dropped it in the library when they were rolling through), but I don't think it's available residentially if you live on that road.

[Falconeer]

This is my situation:



9.64 MBps upload, a few inches short of the 10 MBps mark. They better don't fuck with me as this is pretty much the best consumer connection you can get in Italy without being a commercial company. Hope they will understand this (Meaning they would cut out this whole stupid country if this needed 10MBps upload).

[Rasix]

Standard Comcast in southern AZ.  It has been upgraded over the years, but this is the regular base package.

[Fordel]

 




I'm paying... 33ish dollars a month for that. I used to pay like 85 dollars when I was with Bell. I could triple my down like, right now, for 50 bucks one time fee, but my up would still be the same ass. I would need to drop another 150+ on a new modem for a up package in the 10 range. 300gig cap with a free zone from like 2am to 8am. 25/10 for 40ish a month with 50 activation and another 150 on the new modem.

Maybe when I decide to become a Twitch Superstar.

[Merusk]

This is my situation:



9.64 MBps upload, a few inches short of the 10 MBps mark. They better don't fuck with me as this is pretty much the best consumer connection you can get in Italy without being a commercial company. Hope they will understand this (Meaning they would cut out this whole stupid country if this needed 10MBps upload).

I'd worry more about the current trend of "North America only" before I'd worry about that.

My own test showed 1.5mbps down and .74 up last night. But I'm currently in an apartment and have only the time warner cable-free package for $35 so I expect it to be shitty like that.  At the house I had cincinnati bells fiber option and 20/15 that was really more like 18/ 13 on most days as I was near the end of the line.

[calapine]

9.64 MBps upload, a few inches short of the 10 MBps mark. They better don't fuck with me as this is pretty much the best consumer connection you can get in Italy without being a commercial company. Hope they will understand this (Meaning they would cut out this whole stupid country if this needed 10MBps upload).

You are confusing Mb/s with MBit/s. Your upload speed is 77.12 MBit/s.

Here is mine:



Thats for € 23.70 monthly. For 10 € more I could upgrade to 30 Mbit down / 4 Mbit up, but thats the maximum available.

Question for the math inclined: "Faster than 51% of AT" means I am exactly in the average speed, right?

[Numtini]

a lot of the time that "choice" is made at the municipal level (Comcast gets the west half of the city, Cox gets the east). Yay, "choice". But on paper only.

Just a note as a past member of the cable tv franchise commission. The choice is corporate, not municipal. Local governments get very little out of cable franchise agreements and would welcome multiple providers. The reality is that it's a natural monopoly and companies just aren't interested if there's already an incumbent provider. As a municipality, you are not allowed to negotiate on price or selection of services and you have almost no ability to refuse a franchise as long as they're capable of running one. The Mayor of Boston took to the press to try to shame FIOS into coming into the city and got nowhere--at the same time that FIOS was telling customers who called that it was the city government blocking them.

[disKret]

Where did you get the "upstream" info?
They are only mentioning 10Mbits/s by default meaning download.

[Goreschach]

9.64 MBps upload, a few inches short of the 10 MBps mark. They better don't fuck with me as this is pretty much the best consumer connection you can get in Italy without being a commercial company. Hope they will understand this (Meaning they would cut out this whole stupid country if this needed 10MBps upload).

You are confusing Mb/s with MBit/s. Your upload speed is 77.12 MBit/s.

Here is mine:



Thats for € 23.70 monthly. For 10 € more I could upgrade to 30 Mbit down / 4 Mbit up, but thats the maximum available.

Question for the math inclined: "Faster than 51% of AT" means I am exactly in the average speed, right?

No, Falc's upload is 9.64 Mbit. Mb is megabit, MB is megabyte. I don't know of any consumer isp anywhere that offers 77Mb/s upload. Maybe some places in Korea go up that fast, maybe?

As for your question? No, it isn't that simple. If your connection is faster than 51% of Austria, that means your connection is approximately median. Averages don't work that way.

Lets say that 90% of the people there had crappy connections, 1Mb or whatever. 10% have 10Mb. The average connection speed would be around 2Mb, even though 90% of people would not have a connection that fast. You can't really say much about average speeds in your region just from looking at that figure.

Anyway, the entire conversation is stupid. There is absolutely no way this game is going to use 10Mb/s upload. Someone just fucked up.

[calapine]

No, Falc's upload is 9.64 Mbit. Mb is megabit, MB is megabyte. I don't know of any consumer isp anywhere that offers 77Mb/s upload. Maybe some places in Korea go up that fast, maybe?

Oh yes. Brainfart on my side, re-reading my own post I am not sure what I even meant anymore. Thanks.

[01101010]

Not to mention net speeds also depend on traffic. Time of day is huge as I take a pretty large hit to speeds in the evenings till around 9-10pm.

[Signe]

This morning (I usually play in the AM):

[shiznitz]

FiOS rocks, but we don't have it in our area yet.

My Optimum bandwidth rates are 15/5.

[InterSlayer]

They're using a streaming client or something, so a lot of stuff gets cached and you don't have to reload it again.

It's entirely unoptimized, so... yeah. Gonna need a big pipe for the alpha.

The original EQ pushed the envelope back then too. Requiring a 3d card of some sort, a 28.8k modem instead of a 14.4k.

[Pennilenko]

My internet comes bundled with a nice broad HD package including HBO for $116 after the $20 in taxes and fees that get tacked on.

[Sky]

People need to stop bitching about Comcast.

[Hawkbit]

People need to stop bitching about Comcast.

The issue with Comcast isn't the speed or tech, it's the service.  Beyond horrible.

[Paelos]

Yep, than their bullshit bundles and jacked up pricing.

[Numtini]

We have great service from Comcast. The only issue is cost, which is primarily coming from the cable networks not comcast, and that their pricing isn't transparent. If you can't get a price from someone when you're making an order, there's a problem.

Note: We don't have FIOS available here, but we're in a region with a lot of FIOS markets and IMHO everything vastly improved after they arrived.

[Hawkbit]

I liked this url: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/01/seattle-mayor-i-have-comcast-and-i-would-like-better-service/

Comcast is the only company that when speaking to them I actually fully lost my shit.  After hours on the phone with them my brain became a composite of Private Pyle and something from Jacob's Ladder.  I really hope those recordings are not shared somewhere online.

They have a monopoly on this service in Seattle and they have no incentive to make it better.  The cable box UI is horrid, horrid coming from Uverse back in Ohio.

[Numtini]

Ok, the Motorola boxes are terrible. We swapped over to a TIVO a few years ago.

[Ozzu]

Updated requirements. Now only 3 Mbits required. 

https://www.eqnlandmark.com/news/eqn-landmark-alpha-system-requirements-january-23-2014-eql

[Sky]

But T-W has all that stuff, with slower speeds. I pay $130/mo for DVR, HD, basic Internet, no movie channels or phone. Their customer service and price creep is so bad I cancelled for the summer a couple years back. It had crept to $180/mo and that includes the 'promotions' you have to call and beg for every six months or so in some demented sadistic ritual. It was going to bump to $220/mo and they stopped giving promotions, so I cancelled it (though I did get stuck with $55/mo Internet). Chick from the home office called me begging me to reconsider, but at that point fuck them.

And ye gods, the DVR UI. Keeps getting worse, not even sure how that is possible. I try to program through the web interface as much as I can.

[Paelos]

Not surprising they'd back off the 10 thing.

[climbjtree]

TimeWarner is kinda gargbage-ish.

[Xuri]

What's with all the speedtests? Is there a prize? Can I join?

[Paelos]

Mine's average for being in the middle of a financial center.

[Trippy]

What's with all the speedtests? Is there a prize? Can I join?

Don't make my post my Google Fiber speedtest >.>

[March]

I win.  I am on the information bicycle path.  Options? None.



In a pinch I use my cell phone hotspot for 5x faster speeds... but have to monitor the data cap.

[Venkman]

Darniaq, I think you're still thinking too metro if you think there is more than one broadband option in small cities. We have Time Warner or Time Warner. And oddly one road with FIOS (they dropped it in the library when they were rolling through), but I don't think it's available residentially if you live on that road.

Nah, I said "major metro areas" because I've lived near a few smaller ones, sounds like similar to you. Most of my understanding of the metro areas come from people who live there, as I haven't lived in one myself since NYC almost two decades ago (damn I'm old). So definitely all anecdotal with a heavy dose of parroting seciond hand opinions I merely assumed that someone cared to try and show choice by splitting a city between two operators. But Numtini's explanation pretty much dispels even that vague dream.

In general, there is no consumer choice.

Which is why assuming a minimum requirement that consumers can't control either implies SOE's demographic is purely major city dwellers, they didn't think it through, or they made some design choices they can't undo or some such.

[Tannhauser]

Hmm that ping is higher than I expected. 

[WayAbvPar]

My upload is beefier than I remembered. Bet I am paying through the nose for that.

[Numtini]

All within 5 minutes or so. Yesterday it was 50. Reliability is a wonderful thing.

[PalmTrees]

Paying for 10/1 and getting that. Nice to know.