Cataclysm

[Samprimary]

I feel inexplicably driven to defend this, because in the early phases they were toying with boars or stags or some shit which didn't work at all with the whole early-industrialized gothic victorian idea the worgen became.

That, and wow could use some more horses anyway, and I like clydesdales far more than any other bullshit they would have come up with, so

[Nevermore]

So just take the saddles off the horses already in the game and call it a day?

[Samprimary]

Dunno, they're probably doing ... something. And dolling up the elite mounts better.

End result will probably have more staying power than those obnoxious goblin trikes, at any rate.

[Miasma]

It really does seem like a troll based on the thread and a blizzard response.  I am assuming the horse also has a two-form ability and that the zeroEffort horse turns into something else just like worgen can switch between human forms.  That horse is the "human" form.  I have decided to believe this because I can't believe the shoddy alternative of blizzard just taking the saddle off of other horses and calling it a new racial mount...

[Merusk]

It's got to be a troll.. that's literally just a normal-sized human mount.  It's not even upscaled toor using a texture to pretend it's a Clydesdale.  The standard mounts have the same fetlocks.

Ed: http://www.wowhead.com/item=12354

In fact, when you consider it a troll the "ancestral mounts" line becomes almost funny... because Worgen's heritage would be human, duh. 

[Setanta]

Could we have the reverse and finally give Tauren plainsrunning please?

Seriously, after years of being told it wasn't viable, they gave it to Worgen?

[Simond]

It's purely down to Alliance bitching about goblins getting two (shittily animated) mounts and the worgen only getting frog-mode. That's it.

[Merusk]

Could we have the reverse and finally give Tauren plainsrunning please?

Seriously, after years of being told it wasn't viable, they gave it to Worgen?

It's not that it wasn't viable, it's that beta players bitched until they got mounts.  

Though Tauren running had one significant difference in beta; you started running at normal speed and got up to mount speed after a hundred yards or so of travel.  I recall the exact solution being used by worgen (just hut a button to apply the full buff) being suggested to appease those who complained a mob hit or daze would send you back to normal speed, unlike a truly mounted player.

[Ingmar]

Probably this is just to even out the sides as far as ability to get the mount count achievements done.

[Nevermore]

Probably this is just to even out the sides as far as ability to get the mount count achievements done.

A Blue has already said as much, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a real half-assed implementation.  Blizzard's 'A team' wouldn't have released those.   

[Ingmar]

One screenshot and some tongue-in-cheek commentary do not an implementation make.

[Mattemeo]

On one hand I think it smacks of severe laziness; surely there must have been something more interesting to implement than Horses? Ok, boars and stags probably wouldn't have worked but c'mon. We can ride anything from a giant bug to a camel in WoW, why we need Horse Iteration number 6 is beyond me. A new bear, maybe? There's only 2 models of those, so far.

On the other hand, at least I can now obtain a horse without that hideous fucking SW saddle.

[Ingmar]

From a lore standpoint, horses are what make sense. Should we really be complaining when they finally get a lore thing right? 

[Lantyssa]

Except Gilneans fled.  It doesn't make much sense they brought horses.  A Worgen riding a horse doesn't make much sense.  Why not something new that they've acquired since moving to Darnassus?

And with all the lore violations, why make sense the one time it gives you the most boring outcome imaginable?  Give them bushes or trees or something interesting.

[Merusk]

Worgen ride... other worgen!

[Rasix]

What if they rode werehorses?  I think that might create some sort of yiff singularity.

edit: Great minds think alike.

[Fordel]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3116591708?page=2#28

UPDATE:

There was some miscommunication regarding the initial reason why these mounts were added. After talking with the devs again these mounts are actually being added because they already happened to be available and we thought it’d be nice to make them able to be purchased and ridden. Which is unfortunately quite a bit different than how we understood and framed the blog.

Their existence also allows us to give players that faction change to Worgen something in exchange for their old racial mount. Right now if you faction change to Worgen you lose your previous home-faction mounts, and so we’re also trying to correct that with this change.
                               

[luckton]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3116591708?page=2#28

UPDATE:

There was some miscommunication regarding the initial reason why these mounts were added. After talking with the devs again these mounts are actually being added because they already happened to be available and we thought it’d be nice to make them able to be purchased and ridden. Which is unfortunately quite a bit different than how we understood and framed the blog.

Their existence also allows us to give players that faction change to Worgen something in exchange for their old racial mount. Right now if you faction change to Worgen you lose your previous home-faction mounts, and so we’re also trying to correct that with this change.
                               

Still rather dickish the way they announced it.  They could have just hotfixed the horses in if those were the only reasons.

[Ingmar]

Getting insulted by something like that is way, way into 'get over yourself' territory.

[Sjofn]

I want to know when my dwarf paladin gets her SPECIAL RAM that she DESERVES. That she still has to ride a stupid horse chaps my hide.

[Fabricated]

I keep tabs anymore just to see Blizzard's desperate attempts to try keeping people from unsubbing in the face of their now literally insulting unwillingness to make content.

[Samprimary]

It's got to be a troll.. that's literally just a normal-sized human mount.  It's not even upscaled toor using a texture to pretend it's a Clydesdale.  The standard mounts have the same fetlocks.

I'm fairly certain that when they do get released there will be some significant artistic differences from the Stormwind mounts. I mean, I'm all for jumping on them if they release a shitty mount just to compensate for a mount availability imbalance, but ...

[El Gallo]

I want to know when my dwarf paladin gets her SPECIAL RAM that she DESERVES.

Oh, she's been a naughty little paladin, hasn't she? 

[Rendakor]

I'm fairly certain that when they do get released there will be some significant artistic differences from the Stormwind mounts. I mean, I'm all for jumping on them if they release a shitty mount just to compensate for a mount availability imbalance, but ...

But if they're planning on changing it, why would they bother showing screenshots of it now? It's not like these were datamined changes, this was an official announcement.

[Samprimary]

But if they're planning on changing it, why would they bother showing screenshots of it now?

Same reason their transmog announcement would show a character utilizing Sulfuras. Their publicity department is obviously not synced up with intent and implementation on the part of other departments.

On its own, imagine just hearing of the decision that it's not fair for worgen not to have racial mounts, so they're going to have gilneas faction mounts added in 4.3 — good news, right? Or we could get what we got and watch the bitching continue unabated, because they're hastily thrown together pics of worgen on the unaltered gilnean horse models from the quest. Ill-advised methods of publicity, though, don't mean the end product is going to suck, so here's hoping. I'd like a large clydesdale with gilnean barding, please.

[Fordel]

I wouldn't hold my breath on new art, if only because Blizzard seems to only have one artist chained to his desk these days.

[Nevermore]

And he's probably pouting about the transmorgripher.

[K9]

I keep tabs anymore just to see Blizzard's desperate attempts to try keeping people from unsubbing in the face of their now literally insulting unwillingness to make content.

Pretty much sums it up for me too.

[Simond]

And he's probably pouting about the transmorgripher.

I have actually flipped 100% on the clown-suit issue, given that Blizzard's 'fix' for it was "here's two brown+something suits which will be used for all levelling gear, and maybe two weapon models for each type". Given the choice between that and looking like a harlequin puked over you, then I'll fucking taste the rainbow thanks.

[Hutch]

Daily Blink

[Mattemeo]

I would be perfectly happy for Tauren to get Plainsrunning back. Exactly as it was in the Beta. And then all the crying can start over again! Also, what the Daily Blink fails to point out is that a lot of the QQ is from ex-Horde players who Faction-swapped to play Worgen and lost out on mounts. But then since when has the Daily Blink been either funny or factual?

[Hutch]

Wow. I just posted that because it was topical. I wasn't looking to strike any nerves with it. Sorry bro.

[luckton]

Wow. I just posted that because it was topical. I wasn't looking to strike any nerves with it. Sorry bro.

I lol'd

[Rokal]

I've slowly been moving my hunter alt to 85. Today I waited in LFG queue for ~16 minutes and then got into Stonecore. Immediately the tank drops. We spend another 17 minutes in queue before we get a tank. After clearing two trash packs, the ret pally in our group went afk without saying anything. Before the first boss we tried kicking him since he wasn't responding.

"This player cannot be kicked for another 9 minutes"

We decide to 4-man the first boss and keep clearing trash. After 9 minutes we try kicking him again

"You cannot kick players during loot rolls"

The afk player has already de-facto passed on the drops from the first boss, so this message is occurring because he hasn't yet rolled on a BoE green that dropped off trash.

While waiting for the loot roll to finish, our healer goes link dead. So we sit around killing the never-ending spawn of shale spiders. Once the pally has finally timed out on rolling on the BoE green, our tank votes to kick the afk healer. After the healer has been kicked I try to initiate a kick on the pally that has been afk for about 12 minutes.

"You cannot initiate any more vote kicks"

We 4-manned the rest of the dungeon. All those sweet restrictions they put on vote to kick are working out well.

[Merusk]

I'm fairly certain your warrior screwed you.  I'm fairly certain I've had to kick multiple LDs before, but you only get one live kick, which counts if you kick an LD.  So if you had kicked the pally first you then could have kicked the priest.