Cataclysm

[Velorath]

This is because none of you play the game anymore and don't have game shit to argue about, right ?

I've got all of 90 posts here in the WoW forum.  I've very little interest in discussing the game itself.  I just happen to have an interest in discussing movies and box office grosses and such (much like WUA does).

[Merusk]

It's a more interesting argument than bitching about heroics for the 10,000 time.  Also, if you can't get past normal heroics you sure aren't doing ZA, ergo there's no new content to discuss about the game. 

But since you want game comment: I am still playing since my Noblegarden reup hasn't run out yet.  Got my Pally tank to 85 and getting to 329 was a lot easier with honor->JP conversion. I haven't tanked a Heroic yet because I'm afeared I'm still too squishy at 331.  I will say that pally tank mechanics are STILL a hell of a lot easier than DKs and hold aggro shittons better AND have the benefit of block which is still worlds better than parry, even after the changes.  It's somewhat ridiculous.

Really I just don't see Warcraft being worth a shit as an IP outside of videogames. It's Lord of the Rings only dumb, jokey, generic, and hamfisted. I mean game adaptations can make money. Tomb Raider made more money than Prince of Persia. But "Indiana Jones, plus tits!" is a lot more palatable and marketable pitch than "Lolore The Movie, set in the head-trauma version of Middle Earth!"

Are we talking adjusted for inflation dollars or base ticket #'s?  Tomb Raider only made 274mil worldwide, Prince made $335.  That makes Tomb Raider the #3 video game movie, because Resident Evil: Afterlife beat it with $293. You're correct if going just for ticket #'s, apparently.  All according to their Wikipedia pages.

Vel - I doubt he'll find a link for the info these days about Xena, since we're talking c.a. 1996-1997.  I'll back him up because I remember it being all the news at the time because it had surpassed Baywatch as the most-watched program internationally.

[WindupAtheist]

Actually I was just going by it's rank on it's Box Office Mojo page, which apparently only goes by domestic gross, but whatever. Either way, I can't see the non-beardy public really getting much out of a Warcraft movie.

[Lantyssa]

Xena and Hercules were also campy but with likable actors.  Take out all the pop-culture references and what does WoW have?  How do you actually make a watchable movie out of it?

[Paelos]

Xena and Hercules were also campy but with likable actors.  Take out all the pop-culture references and what does WoW have?  How do you actually make a watchable movie out of it?

Have the fans grind an alt just so they can buy tickets? Also, attached a cool in-game mount to people that purchase a ticket to the movie!

[Ashamanchill]

When this movie comes out it is going to be pure gold, I predict. Either it takes it's self so seriously that it gets laughed out of the theaters, or it's so self referential and loaded with cheezy raider bits that its one giant facepalm. Either way, I win. 

[Nebu]

When this movie comes out it is going to be pure gold, I predict. Either it takes it's self so seriously that it gets laughed out of the theaters, or it's so self referential and loaded with cheezy raider bits that its one giant facepalm. Either way, I win. 

The only way to win is by not seeing it.

[Ashamanchill]

And miss the schadenfreude? Hell no!

[Rendakor]

It's a more interesting argument than bitching about heroics for the 10,000 time.  Also, if you can't get past normal heroics you sure aren't doing ZA, ergo there's no new content to discuss about the game. 

But since you want game comment: I am still playing since my Noblegarden reup hasn't run out yet.  Got my Pally tank to 85 and getting to 329 was a lot easier with honor->JP conversion. I haven't tanked a Heroic yet because I'm afeared I'm still too squishy at 331.  I will say that pally tank mechanics are STILL a hell of a lot easier than DKs and hold aggro shittons better AND have the benefit of block which is still worlds better than parry, even after the changes.  It's somewhat ridiculous.

Really? DK Tanking is trivially easy now thanks to Outbreak; the only thing bad about DK tanks anymore is the 30s CD on D&D slows down pulls in heroics once you overgear them.

[Merusk]

I never enjoyed the mechanics.  Apply Diseases =-> Plague => Outbreak.  Paladin is - throw shield, hit different mob w/ HOR, judge & begin tanking. Conc if there's more than 3. 

Plus, as I said, block REALLY makes a difference.

[Simond]

When this movie comes out it is going to be pure gold, I predict. Either it takes it's self so seriously that it gets laughed out of the theaters, or it's so self referential and loaded with cheezy raider bits that its one giant facepalm. Either way, I win. 

Reminder: Raimi is directing. And hell, may as well get the gang(s) back together - Lawless as Sylvanas, Sorbo in greenface as Thrall, Bruce Campbell's Chin as King Loghead.... 

[Zetor]

My main's a DK tank, and while it's pretty powerful to play (or was until my sub ran out anyway  ), it has a lot of quality-of-life issues in heroics. D&D cooldown is a big one, blood boil doing barely any damage/threat without diseases is another. Outbreak could also use a cd reduc in blood spec...

[Ratman_tf]

This is because none of you play the game anymore and don't have game shit to argue about, right ?

Pretty much.

[WindupAtheist]

Raimi should just redo the whole fall of the Lich King so that it's Bruce Campbell, not Tirion Fordring, that takes him down. Ash Versus The Scourge. You know you'd go see that.

[Paelos]

Raimi should just redo the whole fall of the Lich King so that it's Bruce Campbell, not Tirion Fordring, that takes him down. Ash Versus The Scourge. You know you'd go see that.

I WOULD!

[Rokal]

They are finally letting us do cross-realm dungeons with Real ID friends, but it's going to be another extra sub service like Remote AH. At least one person, the person sending invites, needs to pay for this extra sub service in order to be able to invite cross-realm Real ID friends.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/05/17/cross-realm-dungeon-finder-premium-service-coming-soon/

It's a feature I really wanted, and one I was hoping they were moving towards, but I didn't expect that it would be a paid service...

I guess the cost and what other features come with it will determine whether I'm interested in paying.

[Lakov_Sanite]

And.........there went the last bit of interest I had in the game. 

Wanna play with your friends? FUCK YOU, pay us.

[Rasix]

Ohh, fuck that shit.

[Rendakor]

It's only for 5 mans anyway so I'm not that interested, but I don't see the rage behind this. Don't like it? Don't use it, and the game goes on. They charge for faction changes, why wouldn't they charge for this?

[Fordel]

Well they have to make up the revenue from those lost subs somehow, rite? 

[Paelos]

[sinij]

It's only for 5 mans anyway so I'm not that interested, but I don't see the rage behind this. Don't like it? Don't use it, and the game goes on. They charge for faction changes, why wouldn't they charge for this?

Do you remember that every WoW player shells out monthly sub? Why would you keep paying for inferior product.

Ether ditch monthly sub or give full product. Transfers/Pets/Name Changes stretch it, but withholding a feature? R.I.P. WoW

[Rokal]

Now really would have been a great time to implement it for free too. How many people that stop playing because their friends quit (now, or at any other point in the game's lifespan) might have stuck around if they could still group with friends that were playing on other servers? If anything, this could be a way to sell more Character Transfers, as you'd probably feel more secure transferring servers if you could get invested in another guild before taking the plunge. 1/2 your guild quits to play SWTOR, you start playing with a co-workers guild on another server instead of quitting, and maybe you find that you really like that guild and pay for a transfer, etc.

Payment aside, this service really needs to include raids and probably BGs to be worth anything.

[Ingmar]

My friends on other servers are all wrong faction sadly anyway. If this was cross faction, I would perhaps consider it, depending on price.

[Rasix]

It would have been nice to at least create faction pools of f13 users to group with.  I'm not going to pay for the right to do so, however.  Charge me for cosmetics and mobile access crap all you want, but I'm going to draw the line at direct gameplay enhancements when I ALREADY PAY A SUB (if I were subbed that is).

Plus, if I wanted to group with SLAP people (provided they wanted to be my friend  ), all I'd have to do is faction change a toon instead of faction change + server transfer.

[Sjofn]

Hey, I have TWO level 85 Horde people now, you know! Both of them are even heroic-y!

[Rasix]

I have none!  

Outland on my gobbie and the pessimism here broke the hell out of me.

[Paelos]

I have none!  

Outland on my gobbie and the pessimism here broke the hell out of me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rUMa8bFbqo

[Minvaren]

Did I miss where Blizzard recently hired a bunch of ex-Verant SoE people to run things? 

[Fordel]

Merged with Activision or whatever, remember?

[Fabricated]

Wow, what a Kotick-like money grab.

But then again, if you could do this for free you could probably trivialize non-raiding guilds even further. Hell, it wouldn't be too hard to extrapolate this into cross-server guilds if Blizzard was dumb enough to do that. You think LFD killed the "community" feeling of a server? Wait until it literally becomes a lobby like PSO.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Wow, what a Kotick-like money grab.

But then again, if you could do this for free you could probably trivialize non-raiding guilds even further. Hell, it wouldn't be too hard to extrapolate this into cross-server guilds if Blizzard was dumb enough to do that. You think LFD killed the "community" feeling of a server? Wait until it literally becomes a lobby like PSO.

The problem is is already IS becoming empty. This is a band aid fix to the problem of not being able to find enough guild members online and still avoiding pugs. They probably COULD start merging servers at this point but it would be a very bad PR move.

By charging for it, calling it a 'premium' service they might even make a few dollars but this isnt a money grab move, it's a desperation move.

[Rokal]

It's possible they're more worried about trivializing Character Transfers. At $25 a pop, that is a big revenue source for them. The main reason you'd transfer servers would be to play with friends, and this would let you do that for free. Whether it would end up encouraging or discouraging transfers is debatable.

[Fordel]

One upon a time server transfers had a 6 month cooldown and the cost was supposed to be a deterrent from server hopping.


Now it's what, a week? 

[Simond]

Merged with Activision or whatever, remember?

"Merged", yeah right.

Proposal: We just call the developer of WoW/Starcraft/Diablo Activision from here on in.