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Malakili
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It wasn't forgotten so much as it made absolutely no sense. It was this weird alien looking place completely covered up by evil insects. There was nowhere else in the game where it fit.
Well, the silithids did pop up in a couple hives in other places (most notably Ungoro, but also in Ferelas, and I think Tanaris also). And I think there were some quest lines that were sort of "WTF are these things" so there was some sort of attempt at least. Also, post AQ40 that zone was PACKED, then again, I was in a raiding guild that was competing to open the gates, and we were farming non stop there for the items you needed. Then after that it was raiding there 3-4 nights a week until C'thun died, not to mention AQ20 on off nights, and lords. It was a pretty big focal point in the game for a while, is my pioint |
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Oh it was supremely important for that period of time. Most people I knew hardly left there beyond going to the AH to sell shit. Almost everyone was bound at the Silithus inn to get back there once you went cross country. That being said, it was (and still is) a very odd zone that was really shoehorned into the game early on in the supposed "lore."
In the beginning, there were Trolls...and also these evil bug things. Yeah, that'll do nicely.
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WoopeeTuralyon
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There are also evil bugs in Sholazar. Or maybe they're just normal giant bugs.
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Northrend sort of put the evil bugs up in Azjol-Nerub area, and make them spawn from the "Old Kingdom," which supposedly split off from the Silithus race several thousands of years ago before the Well Explosion and continent formation. That time apart supposedly made them more spiderlike and way different than the Silithus ones.
That's the lolore behind that move.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Actually there's a difference in wow lore between the sentient and non sentient bugs. It was more like a caste system I think. In the beginning there were old gods with elemental princes under them. The silithids were natural creatures of the world but easily controlled and enslaved by the old gods. Some of those bugs were then mutated into the qiraji and nerubians, the humanoid bugs. Even after the old gods were defeated/planet terraformed they were still around fighting trolls and having fun.
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Northrend sort of put the evil bugs up in Azjol-Nerub area, and make them spawn from the "Old Kingdom," which supposedly split off from the Silithus race several thousands of years ago before the Well Explosion and continent formation. That time apart supposedly made them more spiderlike and way different than the Silithus ones.
That's the lolore behind that move.
Actually the silithus split is more LOLore than the Northrend Bugs. The bug kingdom has been in Northrend since the WC3 expansion. You got a bug hero for the Undead in that one and everything. He looked like Anub. http://classic.battle.net/war3/undead/units/cryptlord.shtml |
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WoopeeTuralyon
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The ones in Sholazar are exactly the same, in appearance, as the ones in Un'goro. Which is to say, not Nerubian.
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There are little baby silithids in the Barrens too! A troll made me go kill some because he wanted to know what the hell they were.
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Northrend sort of put the evil bugs up in Azjol-Nerub area, and make them spawn from the "Old Kingdom," which supposedly split off from the Silithus race several thousands of years ago before the Well Explosion and continent formation. That time apart supposedly made them more spiderlike and way different than the Silithus ones.
That's the lolore behind that move.
Actually the silithus split is more LOLore than the Northrend Bugs. The bug kingdom has been in Northrend since the WC3 expansion. You got a bug hero for the Undead in that one and everything. He looked like Anub. http://classic.battle.net/war3/undead/units/cryptlord.shtmlWasn't the hero in the capaign actually Anub? |
As a matter of fact I swallowed one of these about two hours ago and the explanation is that it is, in fact, my hand.
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Rendakor
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Northrend sort of put the evil bugs up in Azjol-Nerub area, and make them spawn from the "Old Kingdom," which supposedly split off from the Silithus race several thousands of years ago before the Well Explosion and continent formation. That time apart supposedly made them more spiderlike and way different than the Silithus ones.
That's the lolore behind that move.
Actually the silithus split is more LOLore than the Northrend Bugs. The bug kingdom has been in Northrend since the WC3 expansion. You got a bug hero for the Undead in that one and everything. He looked like Anub. http://classic.battle.net/war3/undead/units/cryptlord.shtmlYea, it was Anub'arak (the one in AN/TOC, not the one in Naxx) who you had with you during the undead campaign of TFT. |
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Ingmar
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The ones in Sholazar are exactly the same, in appearance, as the ones in Un'goro. Which is to say, not Nerubian.
Where are there bugs in Sholazar? I must have done that zone 3 times at least and I don't remember bugs. Are they just critters? If so I wouldn't put too much stock in them one way or the other. |
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Those bugs you have to kill with the wolvar, they're the waspy sort.
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Oh right, I forgot all about those. Sometimes a giant wasp is just a giant wasp.
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It wasn't forgotten so much as it made absolutely no sense. It was this weird alien looking place completely covered up by evil insects. There was nowhere else in the game where it fit.
It wasnt so much this, as the fact that the zone was not actually "finished" even through like 80% of Vanilla. I mean, hell, 2/3 of the mobs in the zone didnt even have loot tables untill they revamped the place and added the cenarian town quest hub there. As to the insect infestation, it did sort of make sense, when you realised that there were smaller silithid hives scattered in Barrens, Tanaris, Feralas and Ungoro. Might only be a Horde thing (they had a few questlines that all tied into attempting to discover exactly what these strange insectoids were) which is where i mention that it all comes together in the realization that those other 4 hive locations are just branch nests of the Main Hive that is silithus. |
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Selby
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I mean, hell, 2/3 of the mobs in the zone didnt even have loot tables untill they revamped the place and added the cenarian town quest hub there.
This was my main complaint with the bugs. That when questing they didn't have any loot and were hard as hell to kill for some classes (with stupid roaming elites that were even harder AND dropped no loot). I skipped ALL of the bug quests that I could on my 2nd and on characters. |
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SurfD
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I mean, hell, 2/3 of the mobs in the zone didnt even have loot tables untill they revamped the place and added the cenarian town quest hub there.
This was my main complaint with the bugs. That when questing they didn't have any loot and were hard as hell to kill for some classes (with stupid roaming elites that were even harder AND dropped no loot). I skipped ALL of the bug quests that I could on my 2nd and on characters. The best part about that was that you were forced to go there and killl like 300+ elementals (which were on the far side of the zone, so first you had to battle your way through tightly packed spiders and those worms with with the knockback charge move) as part of the early quest to gain hydraxian waterlords rep (as the elementals in silithus were somehow the only elementals in azeroth that gave you waterlords rep) and they STILL didnt have any loot tables, so you slaughtered half a zone for almost no return. |
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Malakili
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(as the elementals in silithus were somehow the only elementals in azeroth that gave you waterlords rep)
Had to do with Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker quest. |
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WoopeeTuralyon
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Ah, just a run-of-the-mill monstrous insect. I see.
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Chimpy
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The best part about that was that you were forced to go there and killl like 300+ elementals (which were on the far side of the zone, so first you had to battle your way through tightly packed spiders and those worms with with the knockback charge move) as part of the early quest to gain hydraxian waterlords rep (as the elementals in silithus were somehow the only elementals in azeroth that gave you waterlords rep) and they STILL didnt have any loot tables, so you slaughtered half a zone for almost no return.
The worms with the charge that knocked you (still on your mount I might add) accross half the zone? And because people bitched about the knockback getting them destroyed by shooting them back into other mobs, then made them stun you for 4 seconds which was just enough time for the spiders to catch up to you and web your feet! |
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SurfD
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the best part about the worms wasnt that the knockback was a very far one, but the fact that there were just so fucking many of them packed into the space that you ended up with a chain reaction, where one worm would charge you, send you flying into another one, which would charge you and knock you into yet another one, and by time you actually landed in a safe spot you had aggro on like 8 of the damn things (and usually you had a spider or a scorpion on you, because that was what was in the "safe" spot that you landed in).
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the best part about the worms wasnt that the knockback was a very far one, but the fact that there were just so fucking many of them packed into the space that you ended up with a chain reaction, where one worm would charge you, send you flying into another one, which would charge you and knock you into yet another one, and by time you actually landed in a safe spot you had aggro on like 8 of the damn things (and usually you had a spider or a scorpion on you, because that was what was in the "safe" spot that you landed in).
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Unless you long for the time of inspecting whale carcasses on the shoreline and stuff, the Cata storyline is a vast improvement.
It's more dragons doing dragon stuff so we can have dragon bosses that no one* cares about besides their loot tables. *Except that one guy in the raid who read some obscure trading card fluff text.  |
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WoopeeTuralyon
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Could someone learned in lolore explain while we had to kill all the trolls that fought off the scourge in Gundrak?
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Lakov_Sanite
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the scourge started taking over the zone/city zul'drak and with the scourge looming in the native trolls were losing the battle. So, instead of asking for help(the horde offered if you read quest texts) they decided to cannibilize their own gods for power. Essentially those trolls are xenophobic and a little crazy.
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Could someone learned in lolore explain while we had to kill all the trolls that fought off the scourge in Gundrak?
The Zandalar trolls asked us to, essentially. |
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Unless you long for the time of inspecting whale carcasses on the shoreline and stuff, the Cata storyline is a vast improvement.
It's more dragons doing dragon stuff so we can have dragon bosses that no one* cares about besides their loot tables. *Except that one guy in the raid who read some obscure trading card fluff text. Yeah the feeling I get is, if you go to websites and read articles for hours, THEN you'll think this is cool. I don't know what a forsaken is, but I know a zombie with a shotgun. |
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WoopeeTuralyon
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Murderous Zandalar trolls! Made us slaughter those poor Gurubashi too I mean, if 20 piddly little 60s can take down Hakkar, how big a threat can he be?! |
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A minor detail: The Gundrak trolls originally got exiled from the Amanu & Gurubashi Empires for being too violent and vicious.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Just when you think they can't queer up the elves further...
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Reminds me of:  QQ can't find the old 1e MM picture. |
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