Cataclysm

[Lakov_Sanite]

I doubt the assassination will be blamed on anyone but the alliance.

[Tebonas]

So Cairne is called a traitor to the Horde and the Alliance kills him? Plot holes you could ride a Kodo through 

[Rasix]

Who the fuck is Cairne? I swear you guys are just making this all up.  

tee hee hee

[Nevermore]

See?!  The Alliance is so treacherous all that talk of 'peace' and 'coexistance' that swayed Cairne was just a trick so they could kill him!  Garrosh was right all along!

[Tebonas]

We aren't, Blizzard is.

Cairn Bloodhoof is/was the leader of the Tauren faction, the one that befriended Thrall and united the Tauren tribes.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I think you're reading too much into the spoiler. I think it's going to go along the lines of

~Cairne wants peace, starts pushing for it.

~Garrosh being the full-on retard he is goes and calls cairne a traitor(i doubt there will be witnesses)

~Battle ensues, Garrosh wins using his retard strength but needs to keep it a secret or taurens leave the horde.

~Alliance gets blamed for the murder as an excuse for war.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Sheep....

[AutomaticZen]

The rumors were dead spot-on.  Only thing missing was the new progression path and guild leveling.

[Nevermore]

Yup.  A couple of added tidbits from a live blogging I'm following:

"Guild leveling system. Path of the titans character progression."

But yeah, old world redesign, flying in old world, Goblins to Horde, Worgen to Alliance (because they were attacked by the Forsaken when the Greymane Wall came down, heh), it's all confirmed.

[Simond]

I'll believe this shit when I actually see it announced rather than relying entirely upon people speculating in a Something Awful thread (yes that's where all of this came from).

I'm going to go 95% that they are making this shit up. It's horrible business if they aren't. I'm not going to pay for an entire expansion where I go back to the same continent I spent the first year on, rerunning the same shit I did with new skins. That's Trials of Atlantis level stupid.

The number of changes that also are supposed to be in the upcoming patch lead me to believe that stupid fuckers are writing up their fantasies as patch notes again.

[Nevermore]

Oh, apparently there's a new profession coming too: Archeology.  No description given but I'm guessing it'll be related somehow to finding and/or using Titan artifacts.

[AutomaticZen]

New Desolace!  Big improvement!

Need more screenshots, but the changes seem to go from 'meh lava' to 'Whee, whole new look!'.  Tanaris and Desolace being the winners in my book.

[Koyasha]

The most interesting thing to me that I don't think I saw before the confirmation just now is "path of the titans" billed as a new advancement path.  Translation: WoW gets AA abilities, at least from what I can imagine.

[AutomaticZen]

Official site is up.

Night Elf:  Well fuck.

[Montague]

Gnome priests. 

[Nevermore]

Gilneas looks like Sherlock Holmes era rainy/fog London.  Nice.

Oh, and one of the screenshots has a Worgen wearing the Druid T8 set so it's probably safe to say Worgen can be Druids.

[Lantyssa]

I am never going to hear the end of this from my roommate.  He's PM'ing me about how ridiculous it all is.

[Lum]

HEROIC DEADMINES

 

[Kail]

Godfuckingdammit.

Okay, so you want war, fine.  Not the optimal way, I'd say, but whatever.

But I still hope to God that the shit about Garrosh and Cairne is false.  Don't make me follow that drooling douche into battle.  Don't "Assassinate" Cairne to goad us into war, because we, the players, are going to know what's going on, and being forced to do stupid shit for an asshole we don't like because our characters don't know something that we do... that's fucking annoying in every game I've ever seen try to pull it off.

[AutomaticZen]

Godfuckingdammit.

Okay, so you want war, fine.  Not the optimal way, I'd say, but whatever.

But I still hope to God that the shit about Garrosh and Cairne is false.  Don't make me follow that drooling douche into battle.  Don't "Assassinate" Cairne to goad us into war, because we, the players, are going to know what's going on, and being forced to do stupid shit for an asshole we don't like because our characters don't know something that we do... that's fucking annoying in every game I've ever seen try to pull it off.

So far, Thrall is still listed as Warchief.

Also:

[Nevermore]

HEROIC DEADMINES

 

And Shadowfang!

There's a faq page up on that Cataclysm page that gives more details on the expansion.  The 'omg I want new zones' people will be happy to see that the Worgen/Goblin starter zones of Gilneas/Lost Islands will be brand new, and have a phasing progression similar to the DK starting area.  We'll also be seeing Uldum, Grim Batol and "the great sunken city of Vashj'ir" and at least one new Wintergrasp type PvP zone.

[Lum]

being forced to do stupid shit for an asshole we don't like

Oh, hi, you must play Horde.

[Simond]

HEROIC DEADMINES

 

And Shadowfang!

There's a faq page up on that Cataclysm page that gives more details on the expansion.  The 'omg I want new zones' people will be happy to see that the Worgen/Goblin starter zones of Gilneas/Lost Islands will be brand new, and have a phasing progression similar to the DK starting area.  We'll also be seeing Uldum, Grim Batol and "the great sunken city of Vashj'ir" and at least one new Wintergrasp type PvP zone.

And the Elemental Planes.

[WindupAtheist]

Except for his anime hair, Varian Wrynn is awesome.

[jakonovski]

Our best hopes (and some people's worst fears) are confirmed, it's going to be pretty much what the rumors say. All I can say is SUH-WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!

http://www.wow.com/2009/08/21/blizzcon-2009-opening-ceremony-live-blog/

Edit: pewp, I'm late again...

[Lum]

Except for his anime hair, Varian Wrynn is awesome.

Sure, if your definition of "awesome" is "insane PTSD-ridden ex-gladiator with almost no backstory who starts a war in the middle of an undead invasion", yes, he's totally awesome.

[Rasix]

Yes, we are creating all-new level 1 to 15 starting zones for both races.

 

 

[Gobbeldygook]

edit: thread going fast

[Nevermore]

Yes, we are creating all-new level 1 to 15 starting zones for both races.

 

 

DK style phase-progression starter zones for the new races has you heartbroken and angry...  why?  

[Montague]

So Gamasutra says they announced "Ranked Team Multiplayer"... isn't that Arena?

[Nevermore]

So Gamasutra says they announced "Ranked Team Multiplayer"... isn't that Arena?

Apparently rated BGs are coming, too.

[Koyasha]

Mass resurrection guild ability - interesting.

And they can phase terrain.

Archaeology is a secondary skill, not a profession, and is used in the Path of the Titans AA  system.

[Gobbeldygook]

So Gamasutra says they announced "Ranked Team Multiplayer"... isn't that Arena?

No, they announced ranked BGs.
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From THE EVIL GOON TROLLS,

Best Deals Anywhere, always receive the best possible gold discount, regardless of faction.
Better Living Through Chemistry, Alchemy skill increased by 15.
Pack Hobgoblin, Instant, 30 minute cooldown, Calls in your personal servant, allowing you bank access for 1 min.
Rocket Barrage, 30 yd range, Instant, 2 min cooldown, Launches your belt rockets at an enemy, dealing 30 fire damage.
Rocket Jump, instant, 2 min cooldown, activates your rocket belt to jump forward.
Time is Money, cash in on a 1% increase to attack and casting speed.


Two Forms, instant, 1.5 sec cooldown, Turn into your currently inactive form.
Darkflight, instant, 3 min cooldown, activates your true form increasing movement speed by 70% for 10 sec
Viciousness, passive, increases all damage done by 1%.
Flayer, passive, skinning skill increased by 15 and allows you to skin faster.

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Fahey:  There will be 20 Guild Levels. With awesome new perks . There will be a guild talent tree.
    Fahey:  Slower durability loss, cheaper repairs, mass ressurection after a wipe. Just an example of Guild talent tree perks. Wow. Impressive.
"Classic world revamp of every zone with updated quests, art and items. Going through the old world with a new character will be a new experience. No more Agility/Spirit boot quest rewards."

[Rasix]

DK style phase-progression starter zones for the new races has you heartbroken and angry...  why?  

Just the ONE TO FIFTEEN part that irks me.

[Simond]

So Gamasutra says they announced "Ranked Team Multiplayer"... isn't that Arena?

Apparently rated BGs are coming, too.

Hopefully 'instead of' rather than 'too'.
Because the Arena is fucking terrible and should never have been added.