Blizzard adds furries.

[Ingmar]

Warriors still don't AE well. They can do it if you know what you're doing and your teammates aren't dps whores.

I haven't really had any problems.

[Fordel]

I'm a giant DPS whore and have a knockback to boot as well. 

[Paelos]

Warriors still don't AE well. They can do it if you know what you're doing and your teammates aren't dps whores.

I haven't really had any problems.

Then you meet both of those requirements. Congratulations to you, and enjoy a cookie.

[Sjofn]

He qualifies for the first, but not the second. Our DPSers are GIANT whores.

[Hindenburg]

Druids? DPS? Psh... spec resto, watch some bear ass, or gtfo  

I can't type.

[kildorn]

our dps considers pulling threat to be a goal, not a bad thing.

I would routinely have DnD down the second Ingmar hit a pack, and would rarely if ever pull threat when going into my AE rotation.

[Paelos]

All I know is I have a rogue with fan of knives that drives me nuts on 5 mans.

[Rendakor]

Has he not heard of Tricks of the Trade?

[kildorn]

Has he not heard of Tricks of the Trade?

Seriously, there's no reason for a rogue to bust out all threat happy in the first few seconds of a fight.

Locks are about the only class off the top of my head that should be riding anyone's threat heavily right now. Or if you don't wait at least until you see the thunderclap before your nuke hits.

[K9]

Elemental shamans can have fairly silly up-front damage, but I don't have too many issues on mine.

[Nevermore]

Feral dps seems to generate a whole hell of a lot of threat.  Or maybe it's just the dual wielding DK tank isn't generating enough. 

[Rasix]

Elemental shamans can have fairly silly up-front damage, but I don't have too many issues on mine.

Helps if you don't flame shock / lava burst / CL while the mobs are still incoming.  I've never had issues unless I select the wrong target.  I can out single target DPS the tank's AE dps, but that's nothing unexpected.

[Khaldun]

Tricks of the Trade = I never, ever pull threat anymore even when I'm digging into the mobs with apeshit loads of dps in the first second after the tank engages. If I'm even close, it means that the tank is really terribad or it means the tank just died.

[Musashi]

Feral dps seems to generate a whole hell of a lot of threat.  Or maybe it's just the dual wielding DK tank isn't generating enough. 

Yea, it totally depends on the tanks TPM.  I've run with monster tanks that I had no hope of catching on my cat who's currently doing 5k+ in a ten man.  Then I've run with some who just don't do as much.  It, of course, depends on whether the tank is busy threating multiple targets as well.

I think the biggest TPM mistake tanks make is forgetting about Heroic Strike/Maul/Rune Strike.  Queue it.  It's important.

[Paelos]

I think the biggest TPM mistake tanks make is forgetting about Heroic Strike/Maul/Rune Strike.  Queue it.  It's important.

Also it's one of the things that made me quit tanking full time. Spamming one button for an entire fight has never been fun for any class. Ask around.

Thus, the Blizzard reps hinting that they want to change that heroic strike spam in every Q&A they do.

[K9]

Warrior tanking mechanics are inherently wonky because you go from "lol, no rage" in 5 mans, to "fuck, I can't shed this rage no matter how I try" in raids. Rage is a fun notion, but is probably the least intuitive or consistent combat resource in the game.

[Ingmar]

The change to shield spec in 3.2 should help - adds rage on dodge and parry on top of the rage from blocks.

[kildorn]

I loved Vanilla/TBC era. Where the better geared your warrior was, the harder instances got. <3

[SurfD]

I think the biggest TPM mistake tanks make is forgetting about Heroic Strike/Maul/Rune Strike.  Queue it.  It's important.

Queue it?  I have a full set of macros made for my Raid bar that automatically queues Maul with every single other ability i use to generate threat.  In a raid situation with good old unlimited rage, i never even think about maul.

[Musashi]

Right, well.  Alll I'm saying is that it's amazing to me how many people just don't get it.  And with wws/wmo it's really easy to figure out who's fucking it up.

I'm not saying it is fun, rage is a good mechanic, or anything like that.

[Ingmar]

I think the biggest TPM mistake tanks make is forgetting about Heroic Strike/Maul/Rune Strike.  Queue it.  It's important.

Queue it?  I have a full set of macros made for my Raid bar that automatically queues Maul with every single other ability i use to generate threat.  In a raid situation with good old unlimited rage, i never even think about maul.

I wish I could do that with heroic strike but there are too many situations where I don't have the rage income to do it every time.

[Fordel]

Maybe you will with the new shield block!



Tank "Rotations" is where the Paladin definitely wins out. Exactly the right number of buttons to push at all times.

[Sjofn]

Feral dps seems to generate a whole hell of a lot of threat.  Or maybe it's just the dual wielding DK tank isn't generating enough. 

I was 2h tanking the times you got splatted, missy. ;)

And yeah, elemental shamans can puke up a lot of up front damage, but Ingmar has managed to be the only one in our guild, so HE doesn't have to worry about them too much.

[Chimpy]

I loved Vanilla/TBC era. Where the better geared your warrior was, the harder instances got. <3

Just need a tank who stayed in zerker and swapped an offhand for their shield in vanilla :D

Or in the case of one of our tanks in MC, sans-pants.

[Paelos]

I preferred tanking in a pink festival dress in the vanilla days.

[Musashi]

If you managed to figure out setting up an intercept macro on Ragnaros, everyone thought you were a god.

[SurfD]

I think the biggest TPM mistake tanks make is forgetting about Heroic Strike/Maul/Rune Strike.  Queue it.  It's important.

Queue it?  I have a full set of macros made for my Raid bar that automatically queues Maul with every single other ability i use to generate threat.  In a raid situation with good old unlimited rage, i never even think about maul.

I wish I could do that with heroic strike but there are too many situations where I don't have the rage income to do it every time.

Yeah, for a warrior, it is probably different.  Druids only have 1 major threat dump (Frenzied Regen) on a 3 minute cooldown.  In any situation where we have something hitting us for decent amounts in a raid, it is generally impossible for us to drop below 70% rage.

[Vash]

If you managed to figure out setting up an intercept macro on Ragnaros, everyone thought you were a god.

More like if you managed to set up a stance dancing macro so you didn't eat fears from Ony/Nef, intercepting Rag is just icing on the cake.

[Hindenburg]

Fuck, if you managed to allow dps to start before a full sunder stack, you were like a tiny threat god.

[Musashi]

If you managed to figure out setting up an intercept macro on Ragnaros, everyone thought you were a god.

More like if you managed to set up a stance dancing macro so you didn't eat fears from Ony/Nef, intercepting Rag is just icing on the cake.

LOLHORDE

[Mattemeo]

Frankly, playing a Shadowpriest having major issues gearing up, everytime I have to hit Fade in a 10man is a WIN moment in my book.

[kildorn]

Frankly, playing a Shadowpriest having major issues gearing up, everytime I have to hit Fade in a 10man is a WIN moment in my book.

Damnit, you made me go look. Next time we're both on, I'm fixing your damned bracer. <3

[Sjofn]

At least he finally got a robe upgrade! 

[Mattemeo]

At least he finally got a robe upgrade! 

I want my old [Green Robe of Lawls] preserved. It has served dutifully for months!
Actually, considering how long Cat's worn it, you'd probably have to use a hammer to fold it anyway.

[AutomaticZen]

http://www.wow.com/2009/08/10/cataclysm-races-leaked/

WoW Insider is now dropping this rumor as well.

Our sources have told us that the new races of Cataclysm will be:
Worgen – Alliance
Goblin – Horde