Heroes of Newerth - Faithful DoTA Clone

[Modern Angel]

I have invites to email out. PM me if you're interested with your email.

[Blakeb]

Hey angel i sent you a couple messeges!  

Would really make my day if i got ahold of a key! This community here is awesome!

Im pretty stoked about blizz conn coming up! What does everyone think of the game

Heroes of newarth? Let me know if you got my pm angel my email address is WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

Thank you!

[schild]

I wonder if deleting an account deletes PMs, I guess we'll find out.

[Modern Angel]

It doesn't but it fucking should.

Of note is that, in my groggy state, I tried to reply to the PMs I got (IT DOES NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE) five times before I realized he was deleted.

[Typhon]

I miss him already.  Great email address.

[steven]

http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/hon-beta-giveaway/

Heroes of Newerth
Closed Beta Keys Remaining
3397

[dusematic]

This game is pretty slick, just checked out the Beta.  I never played DoTA but it's a pretty faithful translation in a slick package.  The best thing about it is probably how you can forbid people with high quitting percentages from joining your game, as well as a host of other matchmaking services like ranks, filters, etc.

[Lounge]

I've been playing this pretty hardcore since June.  I personally find it way better than LOL, but I'm apparently in the minority here.
Look me up as Lounges if you ever want a match.

[Kageh]

I missed most of the hype regarding it and somehow managed to always come too late for a beta key, but in my newfound DOTA enthusiasm (courtesy of LoL) I'm very curious how this will work out! I'd be most interested in a direct comparison to LoL and where it is better/worse.

[Setanta]

I'm playing this on and off. It's faithful to the original DOTA but feels like the engine is a lot more flexible - as it should given that the Warcraft 3 engine wasn't specifically designed for the DOTA maps. The user-base seem to be wankers though - trash-talk rules supreme in the games I've been in. That would have to be my biggest complaint about the game. Other than that, it's a fun bash and should do well on release and well worth taking out for a spin.

[Lounge]

I missed most of the hype regarding it and somehow managed to always come too late for a beta key, but in my newfound DOTA enthusiasm (courtesy of LoL) I'm very curious how this will work out! I'd be most interested in a direct comparison to LoL and where it is better/worse.

I have some keys... PM me your email and i will send them along.

As for LOL vs HON.  HON is literally dota with a few different heros and tweaks to old ones.  LOL removed some complexity in the actual gameplay and replaced it with complexity of the summoner / rune metagame.

[schild]

I don't think the complexity of the systems you're mentioning are comparable to the arcane, over-designed ruleset applied during gameplay to HoN/DoTA

[Lounge]

I would say that the entire rune / summoner system is over-designed personally, but to each his own.

[dusematic]

This game is really only fun if you have some buddies to play with, otherwise you'll probably play a few matches and then quit.  But I guess that's life.

[schild]

I would say that the entire rune / summoner system is over-designed personally, but to each his own.

Oh, absolutely. But I'd rather some peripheral system that has nothing to do with how the game is played later be the overdesigned part.

[Thrawn]

I have 3 beta invites to give out if anyone else wants to give the game a try and decide they don't care for it.    (just pm or post your e-mail)

[Krushchev]

I have an extra account I don't use, but the name is fagballs. It's yours if you don't mind the name.

[Astorax]

The art direction of HoN feels like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

There's not enough contrast between environment/characters/spell effects to the point where when it gets hectic it's very difficult to distinguish character from particle from tree, making it really hard to target who you want when you want.

Some would say that's a cool skill feature, others would say it's just fucking lame.

Personally, I left touching DotA because of the community more than anything, and the vast majority of the DotA community transitioned to HoN, not LoL.  This is why I will ALWAYS play LoL over HoN regardless of anything else.  This isn't to say there aren't douchnozzles in LoL, cause there are, but there's WAY fewer.

Also, the developers at Riot aren't complete assholes like S2 devs are.  Check the forums for evidence of this.  Their responses to fans and community are arrogant at best over at S2 and that turns me off to playing their games or giving them any money (in the future).

[schild]

HoN is just DOTA. You get all the worst of that community, the ones afraid of change.

[waffel]

Looks interesting. I always liked DoTA and played it a lot back when it was independent maps. Once Guinsoo took over and his map become a popular one it was pretty awesome and he did a decent job of balancing shit. However, once icefrog took over the game went to shit.

I'd be willing to play it if anyone has an extra beta key.  

edit: Hmm, I see Guinsoo is working on that LoL game...

[Astorax]

Looks interesting. I always liked DoTA and played it a lot back when it was independent maps. Once Guinsoo took over and his map become a popular one it was pretty awesome and he did a decent job of balancing shit. However, once icefrog took over the game went to shit.

I'd be willing to play it if anyone has an extra beta key.  

edit: Hmm, I see Guinsoo is working on that LoL game...

As is Pendragon (workin on LoL I mean).

[Bungee]

HoN 2.0 out now.

Custom Avatars, Alternate Hero Models, Casual Mode and Matchmaking are the big news.

[Samprimary]

Heroes of Newerth II: League of Legends

[waffel]

Bumping this.

Accounts are only 10 dollars now until the end of the day today. Game has changed a lot since beta, they've added a new heroes basically every 2 weeks, constant patches, active community (but can be harsh)

Worth checking out if you ever enjoyed DoTA or LoL.

THIS IS MY REFER LINK. Don't click if these make you mad. Just visit the website normally if so.
http://heroesofnewerth.com/ref.php?r=BSM15G0O

[jakonovski]

Oh man, I remember this game. I downloaded it, went to play, got torrents of abuse for not knowing how to play, uninstalled.

[Der Helm]

So its like LoL then ? 

[Samprimary]

I'm watching this closely, because I want to see how S2 deals with the issue of being, well, them.

Apparently part 1 of their strategy was to realize that LoL had them by the balls in the moba arms race, and adopt most of their strategies.

Part 2 is likely going to be them trying to significantly and rapidly continue differentiating themselves from DotA, which they copied wholesale, so that they don't become completely irrelevant when DotA 2 is released via Icefrog under Valve.

[Astorax]

So its like LoL then ? 

Take LoL, now remove anyone that was quiet in your games, and replace every quiet person with a raging asshole who's sole purpose in life is to make you feel like less of a human being because you made one mistake...which wasn't really a mistake to anyone OTHER than a mouth-breathing retard that cares more for the game than whether or not they're sitting in their own fecal matter because they can't be bothered to go to the bathroom properly.

Now you have HoN's community.

[Teleku]

And frankly I haven't ran into that many raging douche bags in LoL recently.  The vast majority of the games have either been polite, or the asshole only came out raging/taunting as the game was ending for parting shots.

[Ashamanchill]

I've got to second was Astorax said. I personally didn't play the game, but two friends that did said it had the vilest community they had ever seen. Apparently chat consisted of nothing but verbal abuse and racism.

[Trouble]

I've played a little on and off. The community is pretty vile on average though I've less problems than people above have mentioned. Haven't played LoL so can't comment on differences. The Valve "DOTA 2" issue is interesting though. With all I read about it basically indicating majority of their efforts were focused on the community aspect I had to laugh but it makes sense.

This is esssentially a community built GENRE which in itself is pretty cool. But it suffers from the issue that it was built for and by "good" gamers, with no commercial interest for basically all of its formulation. It's kind of similar to bringing Counter-Strike to market...which interestingly (and I suspect not coincidentally) was also Valve.

[Astorax]

I've played a little on and off. The community is pretty vile on average though I've less problems than people above have mentioned. Haven't played LoL so can't comment on differences. The Valve "DOTA 2" issue is interesting though. With all I read about it basically indicating majority of their efforts were focused on the community aspect I had to laugh but it makes sense.

This is esssentially a community built GENRE which in itself is pretty cool. But it suffers from the issue that it was built for and by "good" gamers, with no commercial interest for basically all of its formulation. It's kind of similar to bringing Counter-Strike to market...which interestingly (and I suspect not coincidentally) was also Valve.

Although DotA's rise to power had nothing to do with Valve...DotA 2 is Valve of course, but the original wasn't affiliated in any way with it.  Just as a point of clarity.

[Der Helm]

Take LoL, now remove anyone that was quiet in your games, and replace every quiet person with a raging asshole who's sole purpose in life is to make you feel like less of a human being because you made one mistake...which wasn't really a mistake to anyone OTHER than a mouth-breathing retard that cares more for the game than whether or not they're sitting in their own fecal matter because they can't be bothered to go to the bathroom properly.

Now I want to give it a try. 

[Samprimary]

I have to wonder what it's like to be a HoN employee. You have to go through the rigamarole of "We love and appreciate you, the customer! Yay!" while mutely understanding that you have one of the worst community bases in all of gamingdom and it is strangling the life out of your company.

[Der Helm]

Ok, I have tried to create an account for 10 minutes now. 5 Minutes I searched for a "create account" button, now I can't even log in with the account I supposedly created a few seconds (now minutes) ago.