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Reply #35 on: July 19, 2010, 06:40:23 AM

Now that's gay fashion designer. Holy crap, it's even cuter than Brandon Routh's red boy-shorties and little brown booties. No dramatic pose can make a leotard look manly. Ever.

Yes but even something that gay is better than that shit ryan reynolds is wearing.

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Reply #36 on: July 19, 2010, 08:42:49 AM

Yeah, the movie Lantern costume seems painfully generic to me but it's still a better choice than green and black spandex. Why they seem to have gone for Kyle Rayner's hair rather than his costume baffles me though.

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Reply #37 on: August 10, 2010, 11:51:43 AM

Likely a Bloodworth, but I just saw this today and thought it was pretty awesome.

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Reply #38 on: August 10, 2010, 12:04:07 PM

Yeah, that trailer made everyone go "GIVE IT TO NATHAN FILLION". Oh well, I'm not hating on Reynolds as much as I was before with this project. My favorite part of that fan trailer is that they made the tweaks to the WB and DC titlecards. Very simple change that really makes it a lot more effective.

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Reply #39 on: August 11, 2010, 08:12:00 AM


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Reply #40 on: November 17, 2010, 11:07:05 AM


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Reply #41 on: November 17, 2010, 11:08:15 AM

Damn, beat me by 2 seconds.

Looks pretty cool, based on my admittedly limited knowledge of the GL comics.

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Reply #42 on: November 17, 2010, 11:25:22 AM

I'm not entirely happy with how it looks to be honest, there's a lot of the rubber effect going on with the cg

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Reply #43 on: November 18, 2010, 04:25:50 AM

Kinda looks cheesy. Not really digging the CGI either.
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Reply #44 on: November 18, 2010, 11:34:39 AM

Meh.

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Reply #45 on: November 18, 2010, 12:07:14 PM

One can only hope there is enough time to come up better suits.  I suppose it's too late to do anything about Ryan's "Leave it to Beaver" style acting.

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Reply #46 on: November 18, 2010, 12:22:01 PM

One can only hope there is enough time to come up better suits.  I suppose it's too late to do anything about Ryan's "Leave it to Beaver" style acting.

what? this movie looks about as 'done' as it's gonna get. there is no way they are going back and re-doing all the suits. This is unfortunate because they look very jarring to me. Take the alien that crashes and gives him the ring. It's fine, actor in make up and looks good up until....big fake cg hand! why? because his hand was covered by the suit which apparently must be cgi at ALL times.

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Reply #47 on: November 18, 2010, 03:49:32 PM

Damm. That CGI suit looks bad.

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Reply #48 on: November 18, 2010, 04:40:46 PM

The end where Ryan is "breathing heavily" after suiting up? Terrible. The abs on the suit look shitty stupid.

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Reply #49 on: November 18, 2010, 05:43:28 PM

I could get past the costume stuff if anything else in that trailer looked appealing.  I don't want to go all comic book nerd here, but the Hal Jordan shown here in this trailer doesn't have any resemblance to the character in the comics (even at the start of his career as Green Lantern as shown in Geoff Johns current run).  Too much humor and too little confidence.  Also, Blake Lively delivers some pretty wooden dialog.  Not looking forward to this one as much now.
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Reply #50 on: November 18, 2010, 10:56:54 PM

I think what they're going for thematically is how Hal is overcome with fear, probably after the accident, and learns to be fearless after suiting up, having a crisis occur as a result of his fear, then overcoming it and excelling with his powers.

That's the character arc I gleamed from the trailers.

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Reply #51 on: November 19, 2010, 02:11:16 AM

MEH.

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Reply #52 on: November 19, 2010, 02:25:40 AM

I think what they're going for thematically is how Hal is overcome with fear, probably after the accident, and learns to be fearless after suiting up, having a crisis occur as a result of his fear, then overcoming it and excelling with his powers.

That's the character arc I gleamed from the trailers.

According to IMDB/Wikipedia, the big bad is Parallax* who induces fear in people or something. So, yes, the theme is fear.




I think I liked this film better when it was called "Batman Begins".


*I know nothing about Green Lantern. The character never appealed to me as a kid, teenager or now as an adult and this trailer doesn't sell it to me either.

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Reply #53 on: November 19, 2010, 04:13:35 AM

I think what they're going for thematically is how Hal is overcome with fear, probably after the accident, and learns to be fearless after suiting up, having a crisis occur as a result of his fear, then overcoming it and excelling with his powers.

That's the character arc I gleamed from the trailers.

Yeah, it's just that it's more like Kyle's character than Hal's.  Kyle is the one that needed to overcome fear after becoming a Green Lantern.  To paraphrase the comics, Hal doesn't feel like he has anything left to fear, having already lived through his worst fear when he was a kid.  Even as a rookie Green Lantern, he's portrayed as almost being over-confident.
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Reply #54 on: November 19, 2010, 08:34:53 AM

You people are broken. I thought the trailer looked pretty damn good, and I didn't mind the CGI suit at all.

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Reply #55 on: November 19, 2010, 09:40:46 AM

I could go on about the suit because it does look like shit. Real face + CGI body looks bad bad bad but let's take a moment to reflect on the acting.  Did anything in that trailer seem anything else but formulaic trite? Reynolds can on occasion be funny but generally when he's a little over the top. Any time he tries to put on his serious actor face he comes off as lame and uncharismatic.

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Reply #56 on: November 19, 2010, 09:45:22 AM

The only lame part I thought was Blake Lively seeming a bit stiff in her delivery. Everything else I'm down with.

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Reply #57 on: November 19, 2010, 07:14:24 PM

I don't remember anything from the comics, so when I saw a trailer for this in the theater the other day I couldn't even tell what it was about. I confusedly asked my wife if that was some kind of alternate universe Batman and she kindly filled me in on it being Green Lantern.

Was the comic that bad?? Because the trailer was horrible.  The GL guy was made out to be a clueless screwup and Cato seemed like the Pink Panther's trainer/sidekick/housemate guy but without the slapstick humor. I dunno, but the trailer left me totally confused and uninterested.

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Reply #58 on: November 19, 2010, 07:29:26 PM

i thought it was fine. Because I know the comic book. Sorry, gang, you CANNOT do that much to revisualize and retell the story of a test pilot who inherits the most powerful weapon in the universe by accident, joins a legion of space cops who all wear green and charge their rings with power batteries, has bosses who are giant blue big-head types, etc.

or, well, you can, but only either by taking the "dude has most powerful weapon in the universe, what's he gonna do" plot in  a direction very unlike the comic book, or by making it into Hill Street Blues in Space (see Alan Moore's "Top Ten" for more guidance). You want to stick to the basics of green-suited guy with ring who is an accidental space cop, ring can make giant green fists, it's going to look by most standards cheesy. I thought the trailer looked better than I expected it to in this sense, really.
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Reply #59 on: November 19, 2010, 10:26:20 PM

The CGI looked wonky.

However, the bigger issue here is the script. They appear trying to build the entire Lantern mythos in one film, which just screams out to me that this film is going to be more 'Daredevil (Theatrical Cut)' than 'Batman Begins'.

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Reply #60 on: November 20, 2010, 02:24:10 AM

You people are broken. I thought the trailer looked pretty damn good, and I didn't mind the CGI suit at all.

Let me put it this way.  This doesn't look like a movie about Hal Jordan becoming a Green Lantern.  It looks like a movie about Ryan Reynolds becoming a Green Lantern.  For the legion of people who don't know anything about the character, I'm sure ithat won't be a problem.  For me though, I think they completely missed the point of the character.  This is still an early trailer though so I could be surprised still.  The next one needs to show some bits of either the relationship between him and his father, or him and Sinestro.
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Reply #61 on: November 20, 2010, 06:27:57 AM

You know, while I absolutely hated the storyline that brought Kyle Rayner into the role of Green Lantern, I don't think that Hal Jordan was ever much of a character until recently. For the vast majority of his history, he was a test pilot who was occasionally portrayed as daring, devil-may-care, macho in a test-piloty way but who also had various other careers like "driving around the country with Green Arrow and a little old guy" and "door-to-door toy salesman" (yes  this guy looks legit really).  Dude had a racist caricature of a sidekick long after most other comic-book characters had left that kind of baggage behind. He was not the sleeps-with-anything-that-has-tits guy until quite recently: for most of his history he was pretty much pussywhipped by Carol Ferris, who occasionally got on a supervillain costume to pussywhip him even more effectively.

His characterization was basically a stolid, kind of boring, guy. Then post-Crisis he loosened up a little bit and started banging an underage alien girl who used her Green Lantern ring to grow bigger tits. And then a bit later, Gerald Jones finally did some pretty good character development on Jordan, giving him more of a past, a bit more psychological depth, and some of the family backstory. Geoff Johns' recent backstory work on Jordan's origin is just that: totally recent. I suspect it's based on access to early screenplay treatments for the film, particularly in its use of Sinestro and Hector Hammond.

There is no Hal Jordan to mistreat, really: the most interesting work on the character is work that connects to the film treatment. He doesn't have a deep history of complex or interesting portrayals to work with (or betray clumsily).
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Reply #62 on: November 20, 2010, 10:28:03 AM

What I got from the trailer was "look, we can make Ironman also."

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Reply #63 on: November 20, 2010, 11:44:52 AM

I don't remember anything from the comics, so when I saw a trailer for this in the theater the other day I couldn't even tell what it was about. I confusedly asked my wife if that was some kind of alternate universe Batman and she kindly filled me in on it being Green Lantern.

Was the comic that bad?? Because the trailer was horrible.  The GL guy was made out to be a clueless screwup and Cato seemed like the Pink Panther's trainer/sidekick/housemate guy but without the slapstick humor. I dunno, but the trailer left me totally confused and uninterested.


Are you talking about the Green Hornet trailer?  That seems to be what you're describing there.
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Reply #64 on: November 20, 2010, 11:59:47 AM

I don't remember anything from the comics, so when I saw a trailer for this in the theater the other day I couldn't even tell what it was about. I confusedly asked my wife if that was some kind of alternate universe Batman and she kindly filled me in on it being Green Lantern.

Was the comic that bad?? Because the trailer was horrible.  The GL guy was made out to be a clueless screwup and Cato seemed like the Pink Panther's trainer/sidekick/housemate guy but without the slapstick humor. I dunno, but the trailer left me totally confused and uninterested.


Are you talking about the Green Hornet trailer?  That seems to be what you're describing there.
I think he probably is talking about Green Hornet.  Which from what i remember of the old series is pretty much a parody of Batman mashed up with Inspector Gadget (in the sense that Kato is similar to Penny, the capable sidekick that almost always saves the day, while the Lead is the bumbling idiot trying to do the right thing and takeing all the credit).

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Reply #65 on: November 20, 2010, 04:23:03 PM

New version Green Hornet, yes. Old version Green Hornet with Bruce Lee, no.
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Reply #66 on: November 20, 2010, 08:28:05 PM

You people are broken. I thought the trailer looked pretty damn good, and I didn't mind the CGI suit at all.

Let me put it this way.  This doesn't look like a movie about Hal Jordan becoming a Green Lantern.  It looks like a movie about Ryan Reynolds becoming a Green Lantern.  For the legion of people who don't know anything about the character, I'm sure ithat won't be a problem.  For me though, I think they completely missed the point of the character.  This is still an early trailer though so I could be surprised still.  The next one needs to show some bits of either the relationship between him and his father, or him and Sinestro.

I think you overestimate the stuff about Jordan's father. That was all fairly recent and I don't think really defines the character so much as it adds to the basic, one-line bit about Jordan being able to master his fears. Until recently, there was more character to Kyle Rayner than Hal Jordan.

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Reply #67 on: November 21, 2010, 04:23:43 AM

Until recently, there was more character to Kyle Rayner than Hal Jordan.

I don't read comics these days, and I never read Green Lantern when I did but thanks for confirming what I DID recall of him.   I watched the trailer and thought that it was all wrong the whole time.  I didn't think Hal Jordan was some campy douchebag quick with the one liners and prone to phrases like, "I know, right?!"

I think Velorath summed it up best when he said it looks like a movie about Rneolds becoming Green Lantern, not Hal Jordan.   Even as a guy only vaguely familiar with the character that's what I took away from the trailer.  They appear to be banking on the general population's complete unfamiliarity with Hal Jordan.  Those who would only know who Green Lantern is from the Justice League cartoon.. you know, the black guy.   awesome, for real

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Reply #68 on: November 21, 2010, 10:27:17 AM

In the minds of the general public, they don't even know how Green Lantern is. He is almost a blank slate for anyone who is not already a comics fan. There are literally no preconceived notions for the people the studio is trying to sell this movie to. Hint: that audience is not comic book geeks. We'll go see it no matter what because it's a comic book movie. If they have to mix Rayner's personality with Jordan's backstory, they will. I'm pretty easy on comic book movies these days. As long as they don't make me wretch like the Punisher movies or Spider-Man 3, I'm good.

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Reply #69 on: November 21, 2010, 10:49:50 AM

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