Torchwood

[schild]

I think I'll be OK. I'm incapable of just skipping seasons of tv shows. It's all or nothing with me.

[Evildrider]

Wow, that has to be one of the best TV shows ever.

Definitely some of the best stuff that has come out of all the Dr. Who and spinoff episodes.

[AutomaticZen]

That was amazing... but how in the fuck do you follow that up?

[NowhereMan]

I can only guess that that was the complete end for Torchwood. I honestly don't see them continuing with it. Also it genuinely was awesome, I completely did not see Torchwood producing something more than just watchable if there's nothing else on, colour me shocked.

[Oban]

There is another Captain Jack on Earth.

Maybe for the next season they can find a female lead who does not look like she came straight from the pages of the Big Book of British Smiles.

[Ironwood]

I hate you all.


I still CAN'T bring myself to do it.

 

[DraconianOne]

Do it.

You may be surprised.  It's by no means perfect but considering the usual way that Dr Who/Torchwood epics span out, this played as if it was an entirely different series.  I felt that the finale was entirely satisfying in a way that the usual Deus Ex Machina resolutions never are. YMMV of course.

[AutomaticZen]

I can only guess that that was the complete end for Torchwood. I honestly don't see them continuing with it. Also it genuinely was awesome, I completely did not see Torchwood producing something more than just watchable if there's nothing else on, colour me shocked.

From here:

During the session, Davies revealed that the fourth series is "ready to go" but is entirely dependent on how the third series performs. The showrunner also revealed that he would be willing to do the show for the next ten years and wanted more crossovers with its 'parent' show, Doctor Who. RTD also added that The Doctor is mentioned in the last episode of Torchwood: Children of Earth.

They've got something planned, but search me if I know what it is.  I'm fine with the show being run like Spooks/MI5:  slow cast turnovers season to season.

[Evildrider]

The only thing I hated was...

[Bunk]

I hate you all.


I still CAN'T bring myself to do it.

 

Dude, watch it. No Space Sex Vampires, no filler episodes. Four straight hours of dark, fucked up shit. Totally redeems the series.

[Azaroth]

Okay. I've seen some commercials for this on Space. Frankly, it looks like a trainwreck of embarrassingly horriawful acting, dialogue and production values.

Can someone explain?

[NowhereMan]

I'd guess if you have seen and not enjoyed the new Dr. Who there's no way you'd enjoy Torchwood since for the most part Who is a better show. Season 1 consists of a few watchable and mostly horrible episodes, season 2 had some decent ones as well as more drek but if you enjoy Sci Fi and really can't think of anything else to do with your time was tolerable. Campy stuff when it wasn't being fucking horrible. Seasone 3 managed to tell a very coherent, dark story with great pacing and very little of the shitastic acting Torchwood has had while simultaneously cutting out 99% of the soap opera shit that Torchwood suffered from. They spent 5 episodes on one story and managed to really get a lot out of it, part of the reaction is also based on the fact that this season being really good was so fucking unexpected based on everything that's happened before.

I'm interested what they're going to do with next season, it looks like they'll have to shake things up a hell of a lot from the original series premise but that's hardly a bad thing. Here's hoping they continue without the soap opera shit and people having sex all over the place because it's meant to be adult and gritty.

[Azaroth]

Well, as long as there's nudity I guess.

[Reg]

I just finished watching the last of the five episodes. You're all right. It really does make up for previous two horrible seasons.  Even the awful gap toothed woman was bearable.

Ironwood - you need to watch this. It's dark and sad enough even for you I think.

[Surlyboi]

I just watched all five back-to-back.

I'm fucking spent.

[Slyfeind]

Ohhhh yeah, we're getting it on BBC America now. I swear, Russell T Davies has admitted he does shit just to strike an image, a tableau, just cause it looks or sounds cool at the time. I get that feeling with Children of Earth, all starting from the idea of kids standing there frozen, then chanting. Good shit so far.

Ooo and it's not editted for American TV. They said a naughty word!

[Surlyboi]

They'll say a bunch of naughty words before all is said and done.

[Evildrider]

You'll also get some bare man-ass.

[Surlyboi]

Chubby man-ass and some blurry black-and-white prison monitor crotchicles.

[Raguel]

I've enjoyed the first 2 parts,  even though I find Gwen to be barely comprehensible.

[Signe]

I saw the first new one.  It was okay, better than the the episodes I've seen before.  Still that dreadful lack of attention to detail.  Like brother and sister or parents and children having accents from completely different countries.  Also, they need at least one new character.  The two blokes, although Captain Jack sometimes overacts to the point of absurdity, are okay.  Gwen, with her new found confidence which I don't think helped her character much, can't carry her part of the show alone.  She's just not that good.

[Oban]

Just keep watching...

[Raguel]

Less than an hr to until the finale airs in CA. I'm dreading the finale, not because I don't think it's good, but because I think this isn't going to end well.(After the fourth show, that should be regarded as a foregone conclusion, but you never know...)


 I'm sort of reminded of the film "Stranger than Fiction". Davies should pull the trigger, so to speak. If he does, it will make this miniseries a great one, but one I'm not sure I have the stomach for. If he doesn't, then he's a coward, and the series won't be as good as it should have been. I can't help but hope there's a third option.

Ok, I just saw it.  This was much better than I hoped for.

[Slyfeind]

Yep, good solid ending. Very good series this year (week).

[HaemishM]

I hate you all.


I still CAN'T bring myself to do it.

 

No, you need to fucking watch this.

Now, I liked Torchwood. I thought it got much better as the second series went on. It's weak points were always too much soap opera drama, too many forced man kisses and some silly plots. This had none of that. It took all the best parts of the first two series and cranked them up to 11.The ending was an absolute stunner. It was easily one of the best bits of sci-fi I've ever seen. The villain/alien of the piece was one of the creepiest I've ever seen. Pure fucking evil done with such subtlety and style.

You really need to watch it.

EDIT: Also, they have confirmed that there will be a fourth series, but with no word on the cast, or anything else.

[Oban]

Please let the female lead be the Doctor's daughter. 

[Reg]

A fourth Torchwood? I'd have thought they were leading up to a "Captain Jack in Outer Space" series, if anything.

[Oban]

A fourth Torchwood? I'd have thought they were leading up to a "Captain Jack in Outer Space" series, if anything.

There is another Captain Jack from a future timeline frozen on Earth.

[HaemishM]

There's nothing to say Jack can't decide to come back to Earth. We know he eventually ends up there anyway. Hell, he could live away from Earth for centuries, then come back in time to soon after he left, hundreds of years smarter.

[Jain Zar]

I finished watching it Sunday.  Holy fucking shit that was good.  And the ending?  That took BALLS.  I doubt many if any US shows would do what Torchwood did.

They probably will use new castmembers.  Heck I would be happy if Jack stayed off of it really.  Let    Gwen    run things with a new group of team members doing the fieldwork.

She could be the Welsh?  Picard with a baby while the new blood went out and dealt with wierd shit.  Even use some of the Doctor's pals.      Martha    , Lady De Souza from Planet of the Dead, the new girl from Children of Earth and maybe 1-2 more.  (Heck with a little tweaking Torchwood 4 could be the all female cast.  My groin would approve!  Doctor's Daughter, Sarah Jane, some of the previous companions, the girl from "Blink"...)

I'm noticing a lot of the UK scifi/fantasy shows brought over show zero desire to keep a status quo.  Castmembers die or leave with frightening abandon.  It ups the stakes and makes each episode that much more exciting.  Hell, Robin Hood and Primeval showed some SERIOUS balls in doing this.  Too bad they are apparently too expensive to get third seasons in the current economy.. :(   

[Slyfeind]

Gwen, Doctor's Daughter, Lady de Sousa, Martha Jones, and...did Tosh's lover from the mind-reading episode die? I can't remember. Even so, bring her back. She was hot. That would be the BEST CAST EVER.

[Evildrider]

I don't think the show would be the same without Capt. Jack, he was the reason there was even a Torchwood in the first place.

[HaemishM]

^ That. ^

[Ironwood]

I don't think the show would be the same without Capt. Jack, he was the reason there was even a Torchwood in the first place.

Do you mean in real life, or in the sense of the story ?

One I'd agree with, the other is simply not true.

[Evildrider]

I don't think the show would be the same without Capt. Jack, he was the reason there was even a Torchwood in the first place.

Do you mean in real life, or in the sense of the story ?

One I'd agree with, the other is simply not true.

I meant that the Capt. Jack character and his popularity is what got the Torchwood show off the ground.  Not that he was the reason Torchwood was created in the storylines, because we know the Doctor was the cause of that.