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Lakov_Sanite
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The movie sounds like a laugh riot.
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HaemishM
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I remember him interviewing that guy after he got let out of prison. I'm pretty sure it's a personal thing for Stewart.
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Ironwood
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Interesting.
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Segoris
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Good for Jon, and I'm okay with Oliver standing in.
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Lakov_Sanite
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I'm just wondering why Stewart is directing and not producing. I know he has a smart political mind but it just doesn't seem to be in his wheelhouse exactly.
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Ironwood
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I think he probably has a larger wheelhouse than you'd think.
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Lakov_Sanite
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For someone who has spent the last decade hosting a political comedy show, switching to directing for the first time and on a very heavy topic is pretty much the definition of "not his wheelhouse". Just because you are heavily invested in politics and serious causes does not mean you have any ability to portray those on the big screen.
Not to say he won't do a good job, he might but I wouldn't say I'm confident about it.
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Mrbloodworth
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You have to try something, for something to be in your "wheelhouse". As Jon stated, this is a personal challenge.
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Ironwood
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I'm just thinking that herding the cats on the Daily Show may mean it's not as much of a challenge as he might think.
Good for him anyway. We all need a challenge. Mine is to make sure the cops never. ever. find. out.
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Tannhauser
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You're Keyer Soze aren't you?
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Kageru
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In case you ever doubt whether there is a thing called "personal charisma".
his replacement, not nearly so much.
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Nevermore
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I like John Oliver in general but he seems pretty uncomfortable in the host chair. He seems to rush through the material way too fast so it seems forced. Of course, Jon Stewart has been hosting for a long time so of course he'll seem completely natural doing it.
On a side note, I'm really liking this Jessica Williams. She's probably my second favorite correspondent after Oliver now that Wyatt Cenac is gone.
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Over and out.
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Ironwood
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I think he'd be more comfortable if he stopped trying to imitate Jon and found his own style. Watching him attempt the mannerisms is actually quite painful, but when he's being The Brit on his own, it's much, much better.
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Arthur_Parker
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Yeah, he's faking somebody else's style, so it's not natural, you can almost see him wince when he says "us" meaning the USA. I think he had to say something about Baseball or American football and you could clearly see he was extremely uncomfortable.
I understand it's difficult for them, it's not his show and they decided at some point to continue with the same format, it would have been braver and funnier for me if they'd done a British take on the show but then I'm not the viewer they need to retain, so that might have annoyed their real audience even more.
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Tannhauser
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I think he's doing a fine job. His take on immigration reform was hilarious. He'll settle in, he's got big shoes to fill.
Jon Stewart in Egypt was good stuff! A bit surreal, also the couch was too far from the desk but that's a good looking studio.
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Ironwood
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I don't really think anyone's saying any different.
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01101010
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I think he's doing a fine job. His take on immigration reform was hilarious. He'll settle in, he's got big shoes to fill.
Jon Stewart in Egypt was good stuff! A bit surreal, also the couch was too far from the desk but that's a good looking studio.
I also think Oliver is doing a fine job, and is sticking to the Stewart schtick a little too much. However, I really think that is just because he might be leery about going too far off routine on the show that Stewart built. I think once he sees he has not lost the Daily Show audience, he'll settle in. I was quite happy with his first week and laughed at a lot of the bits. His interviews seem rushed and you can tell that is not his comfort zone. But overall, it was a pretty decent slide into the captain's chair. And I also noticed that couch being really really far from the desk and how many times Stewart got up to try and bring the interview a little closer. It was distracting, however... I figure that is a cultural thing or maybe a studio camera limitation. *shrug.
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Probably just being new at things. That black guy who isn't the bald black guy used to be awkward at first too, but now I love him.
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HaemishM
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I've enjoyed Oliver a lot on the show. His interview style is definitely different. He actually seems to interrupt more than Stewart who tends to be more of a passive interviewer.
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Remember that it's still the same writing staff, he's not ad-libbing up there. They've been writing for Stewart forever.
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Ironwood
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Yeah, but that too shows. He's got to Stop doing the 'boom' thing. It falls on its arse every time.
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01101010
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Yeah, but that too shows. He's got to Stop doing the 'boom' thing. It falls on its arse every time.
Glad I am not the only one who winced every time he did that.
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Oliver is doing great except when (a) he tries to ape Stewart too much, he's got a style and he needs to stick to it, (b) his seat/interview posture, at times, seems very uncomfortable.
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I did wonder about his tendency to ape Jon Stewart more than he does as a correspondent; I wondered if he'd been directed to do that so regular viewers would transition onto him easier.
Overall I think he's doing a good job.
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01101010
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Anyone else notice his first guest he had on, he sat down first. He hasn't done that since. I found that amusing.
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Ironwood
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British people don't give a fuck about manners.
Exhibit A :
Fuck your mother.
See ?
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Arthur_Parker
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I think we care about a lack of basic manners if it's seen as intentional or something you aren't in a position to object to and have to accept. Brand on MSNBC being a very good recent example, it's rude to say you don't know who your next guest is and it's even ruder to refer to him in the third person, he deliberately fucks them over on live tv for that.
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Ironwood
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I wasn't serious...
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Arthur_Parker
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oh it's just me then.
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Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic!
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TheWalrus
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I've been loving the show with Oliver. I guess I don't analyze it like you folks do.
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Tannhauser
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Dude, this is f13 we tear apart that which we love!
Y U NO S ON CAEP SUPARMAN?
Oliver has had some hysterical shit on the show. Really digging it.
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I've been loving the show with Oliver. I guess I don't analyze it like you folks do.
I think he's been great as well. You can tell interviews are where he is out of his element a bit, but even those are getting better.
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