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Rishathra
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The alien weapons are utterly disappointing. So are rocket launchers. And it seems the game will throw you 20 awesome revolvers or SMGs for every halfway decent weapon of another type. This. I was wanting to enjoy the alien weapons so much, so I worked on it a while and got my proficiency up to around 35. While the recharge gets much better, the weapons still can't be used at all regularly. Even in fights with a bunch of chumps I just can't sustain a meaningful amount of fire with them. I feel intense rage whenever the 'guardian angel' says anything to me. She's completely worthless and yet always speaks down to you as if you so totally needed her help and guidance. Always saying shit like "yes, you should do that quest, it will get you closer to the vault." What, you mean the quest that I already got on my own, and am already in the middle of completing, without any prompting or guidance from you whatsoever? "You got another piece of the key without my help," said in a tone that is slightly incredulous, like she almost doesn't believe it. It's not like I got ANY of the pieces with her help, for that matter. "I can't see you, we're flying blind, friend." No, YOU'RE flying blind. I'm thanking God that I won't have to listen to your inane blabbering, for at least a short while. It also doesn't help any that she looks like your typical tween/goth type chick. Avril Lavigne as the avatar of an all-seeing AI guiding your progress from a satellite overhead is about as believable as Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist. |
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Yoru
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I got some kind of level 28 alien shotgun. Even at level 40, I use it to clear out skags, since the bullets go through the fuckers and bounce off walls, as well as turning them into little lightning storms. A few pulses will pretty much down any larger skag once the DOT finishes, and that's in a 4-man group.
The rest of the alien guns? Yeah, they suck. The rocket-launcher one has a fun graphic though.
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Ratman_tf
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Gawd. I just picked this up today. Thanks for the ui tweaks, guys. I probably would have chucked this one in the closet if I hadn't remembered the tweaks from this thread.
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Murgos
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It also doesn't help any that she looks like your typical tween/goth type chick. Avril Lavigne as the avatar of an all-seeing AI guiding your progress from a satellite overhead is about as believable as Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist.
To be fair the appearance of the worlds future holographic AI personalities is going to be decided on by the shut-in nerds of the future. There is a pretty good chance that almost all holographic AI personalities are going to look and talk like porn/pop stars. |
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Aez
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It also doesn't help any that she looks like your typical tween/goth type chick. Avril Lavigne as the avatar of an all-seeing AI guiding your progress from a satellite overhead is about as believable as Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist.
To be fair the appearance of the worlds future holographic AI personalities is going to be decided on by the shut-in nerds of the future. There is a pretty good chance that almost all holographic AI personalities are going to look and talk like porn/pop stars. Lets be optimistic and say they will sound like Glados. |
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LK
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Got my 1000 achievement points, do not want to play this ever again. The game loses fun as enemy variety and weapon limitations become painfully apparent. Needs way less WoW and way more Diablo in its game flow.
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Fabricated
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I'm kinda annoyed at how hard it is sometimes to figure out what gun is better than another gun, particularly if you're buying from the shop. I picked up an unforgiven from the vendor and it fucking sucks despite being more accurate and doing literally 3 times more damage than any non-shotgun weapon I have. The thing just seems to crit a lot less, even when I'm dinging people in the head.
Of course it hits for like 4k when it crits, but still. Argh.
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Megrim
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The alien weapons are utterly disappointing. So are rocket launchers. And it seems the game will throw you 20 awesome revolvers or SMGs for every halfway decent weapon of another type. This. I was wanting to enjoy the alien weapons so much, so I worked on it a while and got my proficiency up to around 35. While the recharge gets much better, the weapons still can't be used at all regularly. Even in fights with a bunch of chumps I just can't sustain a meaningful amount of fire with them. I feel intense rage whenever the 'guardian angel' says anything to me. She's completely worthless and yet always speaks down to you as if you so totally needed her help and guidance. Always saying shit like "yes, you should do that quest, it will get you closer to the vault." What, you mean the quest that I already got on my own, and am already in the middle of completing, without any prompting or guidance from you whatsoever? "You got another piece of the key without my help," said in a tone that is slightly incredulous, like she almost doesn't believe it. It's not like I got ANY of the pieces with her help, for that matter. "I can't see you, we're flying blind, friend." No, YOU'RE flying blind. I'm thanking God that I won't have to listen to your inane blabbering, for at least a short while. It also doesn't help any that she looks like your typical tween/goth type chick. Avril Lavigne as the avatar of an all-seeing AI guiding your progress from a satellite overhead is about as believable as Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist. Her (very, very) annoying uselessness actually makes sense once you finish the game. There is a reason why she is so insistent. |
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Nightblade
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Got my 1000 achievement points, do not want to play this ever again. The game loses fun as enemy variety and weapon limitations become painfully apparent. Needs way less WoW and way more Diablo in its game flow.
I agree fully. Once you get over the fact that you can have a revolver that acts like a sniper rifle that also lights people on fire for some reason, things get very stale and boring. The craptastic multiplayer doesn't really help things. I think this has been my biggest waste of money for me since Unreal Tournament 3. |
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Engels
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I think you guys are overthinking this game. Its FPS-light with a vague RPG element. Its Bejeweled for men with a few funny characters and a generic post-apoc story arc. If you couldn't tell what you were getting from the trailers, I don't know what to tell you.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
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Nightblade
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I think you guys are overthinking this game. Its FPS-light with a vague RPG element. Its Bejeweled for men with a few funny characters and a generic post-apoc story arc. If you couldn't tell what you were getting from the trailers, I don't know what to tell you.
After doing the research and hearing about all of the... choices the game was making in it's multiplayer; I can honestly say that the game failed to even reach my low expectations. What's the point of even playing it after you beat it? It's not as if the game gets any more interesting the second / third time around. Sure; the enemies gain a stat boost - but they are still easy as hell to kill. Not only that, but you can't even fight all of the bosses again after your second playthrough... Not that I'm in any sort of hurry to do the pre-requisite Collection / Fetch / Fed Ex quests. I also don't see how this can be compared to Bejeweled. The game isn't exactly friendly on your time, as you're forced to run around and do pointless busy work to get to the actual enjoyable part of the game (enjoyable while it lasted, anyway). I wish I could have exchanged this game for Torchlight. |
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fuser
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What's the point of even playing it after you beat it? It's not as if the game gets any more interesting the second / third time around.
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Rishathra
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Her (very, very) annoying uselessness actually makes sense once you finish the game. There is a reason why she is so insistent.
Being insistent is one thing, and yes, it is explained by the ending. However, it doesn't justify her attitude of "I'm here to help," because she really doesn't help, at all. Ever. With the way the story unfolds, she could have not existed, and you still would have reached the vault. She doesn't even speed things along, or give hints as to where to go next. Oh, one more thing that annoys me about her - her facial expressions don't seem to sync up with what she is actually saying most of the time. That threw me off a bit. To counteract my admittedly excessive bitching about her character, I will mention that I thought Tannis was brilliant. Just about everything she said cracked me up. "Also, I have butter cookies!" |
"...you'll still be here trying to act cool while actually being a bored and frustrated office worker with a vibrating anger-valve puffing out internet hostility." - Falconeer
"That looks like English but I have no idea what you just said." - Trippy
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Megrim
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Oh i agree; my first reaction was GET OUT OF MY HEAD I WILL MURDERISE YOU. But it was nice to see it actually explained.
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One must bow to offer aid to a fallen man - The Tao of Shinsei.
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LK
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I like how the Angel was presented but I agree with your criticisms. Her voice was soothing and the looping video of white woman on the beach felt... Appropriate.
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Malakili
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Oh i agree; my first reaction was GET OUT OF MY HEAD I WILL MURDERISE YOU. But it was nice to see it actually explained.
Sort of. If you remember, you get a message for her before you get off the bus the first time, which is before you have your little whatsit from Claptrap, so technically you shouldn't have had any hook up to the satellite yet. CONSPIRACY! |
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Megrim
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Oh yea.... lolplothole.
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One must bow to offer aid to a fallen man - The Tao of Shinsei.
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Goreschach
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While all these complaints are valid, I do have to say that I think Scooter is my favorite telephone character from any game, ever.
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Sky
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I don't think I found an assault rifle above blue in the entire playthrough (at least not the burst-fire kind, there were plenty of machine guns but who cares about those). I actually favor single-shot MGs, with the ability to go full auto for bosses. And I did have a face-melter for bosses, a purple that with my skills chewed through ammo. Clip size (after skills) was around 180 and I could burn through that in about 2 seconds. Problem is, I could only use it for boss battles, because it ran through ammo so fast, I was always out of CR ammo. And I just replaced it with a green rifle that's slightly better. Neither has any elemental effects. I almost think the +fire rate skills for Roland make it more difficult to use CRs unless you have ammo regeneration out the wazoo (and I'm not specced for it). Mostly I use my SMG that regens ammo for trash mobs, and my NEW orange Pele sniper rifle (thanks, Old Haven chest) for clearing out areas. The CR is just for melting boss mob faces and I keep the fourth slot open for testing new guns or just for fun alternate guns. Right now it's a pistol with massive zoom and exploding bullets, but small clip. Also, went back to weewee's shield, just need that goddamned health regen for Old Haven (yes, my first playthrough, I'm slow). I should mention I've now found four Orange Pele sniper rifles, two were vendor trash because I found them after the good one from Old Haven. Last night I found four orange sniper rifles that were very effective, and a green CR that was ok but an upgrade  Having Scooter be the mechanic makes me wish the cars had a General Lee paint job. |
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Sky
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I thought Tannis was brilliant.
I agree, definitely a high point of the game. "And several pairs of my underwear." |
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rattran
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The 3/5 round burst combat rifles take a bit of getting used to, but work very, very well. I never bother with the machine guns, even 5 round burst guns go through ammo a bit quick. And they drop reasonably often, I've got a couple mid 30 oranges, a couple yellows, and a 46 purple I'm currently using. Combined with the passive skills, they kill fast, and accurately. The class mod with +180 recoil reduction makes it so almost every shot hits so long as I can keep it centered, and as fast as I can click.
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01101010
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Tannis' journal entries were insanely entertaining... I would wait till the end before opening my inv or map to not interrupt her dialog. As for Scooter... holy shit he is hilarious. The use of the word: "dickbag" and his rant on the topic of Lucky I replay when i want to laugh. Hell even my anti-gaming GF thought he was funny as hell. Dickbag I may have to start weaving into my conversations at the office.  |
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Surlyboi
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While all these complaints are valid, I do have to say that I think Scooter is my favorite telephone character from any game, ever.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Lantyssa
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Having Scooter be the mechanic makes me wish the cars had a General Lee paint job.
Did you read the name of the orange paint job? |
Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Musashi
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Tannis' journal entries were insanely entertaining... I would wait till the end before opening my inv or map to not interrupt her dialog. As for Scooter... holy shit he is hilarious. The use of the word: "dickbag" and his rant on the topic of Lucky I replay when i want to laugh. Hell even my anti-gaming GF thought he was funny as hell. Dickbag I may have to start weaving into my conversations at the office. "And by friend, I mean guy who ruined my Mom's girl parts." |
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Murgos
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Having Scooter be the mechanic makes me wish the cars had a General Lee paint job.
Did you read the name of the orange paint job? The General Flee  |
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schild
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Tannis' journal entries were insanely entertaining... I would wait till the end before opening my inv or map to not interrupt her dialog. As for Scooter... holy shit he is hilarious. The use of the word: "dickbag" and his rant on the topic of Lucky I replay when i want to laugh. Hell even my anti-gaming GF thought he was funny as hell. Dickbag I may have to start weaving into my conversations at the office. "And by friend, I mean guy who ruined my Mom's girl parts." Yea, so Lucky is an old friend of mine, and by friend I mean asshole that ruined my Mom's girlparts. |
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rattran
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Something like "I appreciate you taking a poke at that. The Catch a Ride, not my Mom"
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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"I'm glad you saved that dickbag's life, so I can pound on him later..."
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Teleku
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Is there any way to go back and replay all the voice transmissions?
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Malakili
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Is there any way to go back and replay all the voice transmissions?
yeah, in your quest log there should be a tab for all your previous quests, which you can select and listen to again |
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Is there any way to go back and replay all the voice transmissions?
under the quest log, at the top are some icons. tap the cassette icon and scroll around to play all the audio bytes ou have heard thus far. |
Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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Samwise
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FYI, King WeeWee does not respawn. I hiked all over the Tetanus Warrens and found a room that looked like something a boss would spawn in, but no WeeWee.
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LK
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Something like "I appreciate you taking a poke at that. The Catch a Ride, not my Mom"
"The Fyrstone Catch-A-Ride is more messed up than my Momma's girl parts. I'd appreciate you taking a poke at that. Er, the Catch-A-Ride, not my mom." Scooter and Tannis were the best. Everyone else was... eh. Though Nine-Toes introduction was probably the best. |
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