Borderlands

[rattran]

I can't come up with any reason to get it on a console as opposed to pc.

[Rasix]

Having a really outdated PC?

I'm not confident my machine will run this well.  It'd probably look and perform better on a console for me.  Still, my machine didn't die playing Fallout 3 or Witcher on decent settings.  Maybe this would do OK.

edit: what I'd really like here is a demo. 

[NiX]

I can't come up with any reason to get it on a console as opposed to pc.

That's because you're a man of reason and intelligence

Quoting 4 pack lists from last page:

Ok, so this is the group I'm setting up:

Myself
Phire
Hawkbit
Draegan

There's enough for another I believe:

ezrast
Sky
Hoax
Nonentity (Maybe)

[Sky]

At least its not faction restricted 

Not Canadians.

[LK]

I'm not sure how the game is going to play with these wildly different builds. Huh.

[schild]

It's not an MMOG or Street Fighter, dude.

[LK]

I guess I'm taking issues that ability and appearance are not divided. For instance, I'd rather be a hot gun-slinging chick, not Lilith.

I see Turret / Supporter, Rogue, HULK SMASH, and Sniper. But nothing that really screams "GUUUUUUNS". Have to see how the basic gunplay is.

[Malakili]

I guess I'm taking issues that ability and appearance are not divided. For instance, I'd rather be a hot gun-slinging chick, not Lilith.

*shrugs*  After years of Diablo 2 this didn't really phase me to be honest. 

[schild]

I see Turret / Supporter, Rogue, HULK SMASH, and Sniper. But nothing that really screams "GUUUUUUNS". Have to see how the basic gunplay is.

I think you're just trying to find a way to make the wait easier since that's not even a crudely formed complaint let alone something tangible.

Who gives a fuck if something screams GUNS?

I don't look at fucking Half-Life and say "man, Gordon just doesn't scream sympathetic hero, I mean WHY HAVE A DEGREE OR HELP IF YOU'RE NEVER GONNA TALK."

Meh.

[Draegan]

Can anyone confirm the sound the game makes when loot drops and when you pick it up?

Anyway, I want shiny.

[NiX]

Can anyone confirm the sound the game makes when loot drops and when you pick it up?

Anyway, I want shiny.

Reply to PM, yo. I'm blind and stupid.

[Nightblade]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

[schild]

I've never played Diablo 2

wat

You know, I found out one of the people at work today (who happens to sit in the same room as me) has never played Diablo 1 & 2. Immediately, a feeling of uneasiness rushed over me. Gamers who haven't played the Diablo series strike me as bizarre outliers.

[Draegan]

I've never played Diablo 2

 

edit:
schild beat me by 12 seconds.

[Nightblade]

I've never played Diablo 2

wat

You know, I found out one of the people at work today (who happens to sit in the same room as me) has never played Diablo 1 & 2. Immediately, a feeling of uneasiness rushed over me. Gamers who haven't played the Diablo series strike me as bizarre outliers.

Back in those days I wasn't big into PC gaming, nor did I have consistent access to a computer. I figure now the glory days are long gone, so I don't bother. The only thing I know is that whenever a developer utters the name "Diablo II" legions of consumers line up to toss their money into the bonfire. (IE: Hellgate London, Titan Quest)

[Draegan]

Any day now, Blizzard is going to release a new patch.

Any.. day.. now..

[schild]

:withdrawal:

I would totally ignore a Diablo 2 patch right now I think, simply because Borderlands and Torchlight dropping on the same day is just, well, fantastic.

[FatuousTwat]

Back in those days I wasn't big into PC gaming, nor did I have consistent access to a computer. I figure now the glory days are long gone, so I don't bother. The only thing I know is that whenever a developer utters the name "Diablo II" legions of consumers line up to toss their money into the bonfire. (IE: Hellgate London, Titan Quest)

I would suggest giving the Median XL mod a try, but it's kind of unforgiving even for people who have played Diablo 2 before, so YMMV.

[squirrel]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

You know your monkey brain? It will get tickled. Repeatedly. Which is not stale.

[ezrast]

Back in those days I wasn't big into PC gaming, nor did I have consistent access to a computer. I figure now the glory days are long gone, so I don't bother. The only thing I know is that whenever a developer utters the name "Diablo II" legions of consumers line up to toss their money into the bonfire. (IE: Hellgate London, Titan Quest)

I would suggest giving the Median XL mod a try, but it's kind of unforgiving even for people who have played Diablo 2 before, so YMMV.

Median XL has tons of shiny features but nowhere near Blizzard's level of design elegance. I can't imagine appreciating it without already being deep within the clutches of Sanctuary. Start with the base game.

Hell, if that's too built-up/bandwagon-y for you, start with the first Diablo. It's worthwhile in its own right, with an atmosphere all its own.

[Ragnoros]

:withdrawal:

I would totally ignore a Diablo 2 patch right now I think, simply because Borderlands and Torchlight dropping on the same day is just, well, fantastic.

Probably for the Best.

1. They simply CANNOT get their shit together. http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=16474108701&sid=3000

We’re preparing for a Diablo II ladder reset to coincide with the release of the 1.13 patch that’s currently in development. We don’t have a final release date for the patch yet, but we’re providing early warning as a reset could occur as early as the end of April. We’ll be providing updates with more certain dates once the patch is closer to release.

Please be aware that with a ladder reset all ladder characters are moved to non-ladder. This means that your characters will still be accessible but will no longer have access to ladder-only features and games. In order to play in the new ladder season after the reset you will need to make new ladder characters.

This thread will be updated with more information as it becomes available.

Update - 7/20

As stated in the "Myth" thread (http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=18031060417&sid=3000) we're still working toward releasing the Warcraft III patch currently in testing on our Westfall Public Test Realm. Testing is looking good on the Warcraft III patch though and once it's released focus will go to the Diablo II 1.13 patch.

The 1.13 patch is very far along so it should only be a limited amount of testing before it hits the Westfall PTR. Still, any number of issues could delay a release so any dates or estimates for release won't be made available.

A forum is now available for discussing the PTR and patch and will continue to be available for posting feedback and bug reports once the patch actually goes live. This is to ideally keep the other Diablo II forums dedicated to current game discussion. Any threads discussing the 1.13 patch/PTR/etc. will be moved to the Test Realm forum, or deleted.

http://forums.battle.net/board.html?forumId=20601702&sid=3000

Update - 8/5

The Warcraft III patch has been released but in order to resolve some persistent issues work is not yet moving to the Diablo II patch. Again this involves some very high priority issues that need to be resolved before work can continue on D2 1.13

We'll keep you updated as work progresses.

Update - 9/2

Work commences on patch 1.13. We won't be providing any information on when the patch will be available, except that we expect the PTR to be available "soon". We will provide some amount of warning very, very shortly before the PTRs become available. Please keep in mind that any number of factors could delay the start of the PTR and ultimate release of the patch. Thanks for being patient, we're getting close now.

Update - 9/30

The Diablo II 1.13 patch is on temporary hold while we investigate potential impact on the Battle.net service. As we moved closer to launching the patch concerns grew that an increase in the player stash size (a feature in the patch) could compromise the Diablo II Battle.net service. The hardware and configuration could potentially not handle the increased stash size gracefully under heavy load. Currently we’re investigating potential impact as it is one of the larger content features in the patch and we’re hoping it can remain a part of the release. If it does have to be removed it will require additional time to remove it, generate new patches, and test, which will add time before we can go live on the PTR.

We’re hoping to have our diagnostics and a final decision on how we’ll be moving forward decided by early next week and we’ll have an update for you at that time.

Update - 10/14

The decision on whether or not to include the enlarged stash size has been slightly delayed. As mentioned previously it would require some additional weeks of development and would remove one of the most requested features were we unable to include it. If it were to be included the concern is that it could render Diablo II unplayable, and repairing the issue after the fact would draw heavily on development resources. Which is also something we obviously want to avoid.

We hope to be able to reach a conclusion and decision soon on the future of the 1.13 patch, and we’ll keep you updated as it develops.
[ Post edited by Bashiok ]

tl;dr After well over over six months they are still trying to figure out if one of the two major features of the patch might, maybe, BREAK THE GAME! (Exaggerated text mine)

2. The major feature most everyone wanted (higher resolution) is not happening. http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=20136598841&pageNo=1&sid=3000#9

Not every change is going to appeal to everyone.

We asked for community feedback and a larger stash size was in the top three most requested changes.

Just out of curiosity, what were the other two?

Higher resolution, which we unfortunately just can't do because it would fundamentally change the game and require a huge development investment to have the game/servers spawn enemies farther out, have them aggro from farther out, and even then it increases travel time to the player... it's just a mess. Apparently increasing the resolution in LoD was this gigantic issue so I think the idea of increasing it again makes some of the old time programmers want to curl up in a fetal position.

And new end game content, which we do want to continue adding, but just wasn't possible for this patch.

BRING ON BORDERLANDS AND TORCHLIGHT!

/nerdrage

[Ragnoros]

Back in those days I wasn't big into PC gaming, nor did I have consistent access to a computer. I figure now the glory days are long gone, so I don't bother. The only thing I know is that whenever a developer utters the name "Diablo II" legions of consumers line up to toss their money into the bonfire. (IE: Hellgate London, Titan Quest)

I would suggest giving the Median XL mod a try, but it's kind of unforgiving even for people who have played Diablo 2 before, so YMMV.

Median XL has tons of shiny features but nowhere near Blizzard's level of design elegance. I can't imagine appreciating it without already being deep within the clutches of Sanctuary. Start with the base game.

Hell, if that's too built-up/bandwagon-y for you, start with the first Diablo. It's worthwhile in its own right, with an atmosphere all its own.

I would also recommend starting with the base game + expansion & patches. I think Diablo 2 has held up rather well for its age. Just play it!

[Azazel]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

 

[Elerion]

All 4 sound pretty awesome tbh. I'm tempted to make a melee character so I can ninja loot that much faster in coop.

All loot is instanced. No one can see anyone else's loot, a weapon will show up for only you.

You can still trade it if you don't want it, of course.

I'll be playing brick. Another thing that you may not know is that you can respec at any save point, for free. No need to get worked up over talent builds, just try them out and see if they suck. If they do, try something else.

This video shows non-instanced loot:
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-borderlands/17-1498/

9 minutes in they open a chest and fight over the contents.

Boss loot may be instanced though, dunno.

[Nightblade]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

 

Can I expect an explanation or have I wandered into 4chan?

I would also recommend starting with the base game + expansion & patches. I think Diablo 2 has held up rather well for its age. Just play it!

Money is a little tight now, but if I can find it really cheap I'll do just that.

[Velorath]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

 

Can I expect an explanation or have I wandered into 4chan?

Even if he hadn't bolded the relevant part, it should be fairly obvious what brought on the facepalm.

[Tannhauser]

From that video, game looks great, but Scar, a quest mob, seemed to just stand there and let you shoot him down after his first two attacks. 

[Sky]

Can I expect an explanation or have I wandered into 4chan?

This kid has potential.

[Phire]

FutureShop in Canada will have the 360 and PS3 versions for $39.99 on release day.

[AcidCat]

Is no one planning on getting this on console?

I'm picking up the 360 version. May also get PC too if the game is good enough.

[MrHat]

Is no one planning on getting this on console?

I'm picking up the 360 version. May also get PC too if the game is good enough.

My 360 pissed me off for the last time months ago.  I haven't turned it on since Dec 2008 I think. 

I might pick this up on PS3 if the PC version refuses to run on this 9400M, but I def. prefer it on PC I think.

Wait, is Torchlight still going?

[Draegan]

I'm not sold on Torchlight just yet.  I'm on more of an FPS kick right now.  Borderlands for sure right now.

[KallDrexx]

Is no one planning on getting this on console?

I'll probably get it on 360, but that's partly because I dont' have an easy and comfortable place to play pc games without having my wrist in awkward positions.

[Murgos]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

 

Can I expect an explanation or have I wandered into 4chan?

after you've played through it dozens of times

after you've played through it dozens of times

played through it dozens of times

dozens of times

dozens

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[Nightblade]

What is there to keep this game from becoming stale and predictable after you've played through it dozens of times, aside from the randomly generated guns and simplistic talent trees / levels? I've never played Diablo 2, so maybe I just don't understand the draw here.

 

Can I expect an explanation or have I wandered into 4chan?

Even if he hadn't bolded the relevant part, it should be fairly obvious what brought on the facepalm.

Oh no, I understand, I just didn't think it was worth posting (spamming) for. I had thought maybe there was something actually important I might have missed.

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Wonderful contribution.