World of Tanks

[apocrypha]

Battle of Moscow special starting tomorrow:


Highest tier tank I have on that list is the KV, although I might get a  Pz 38 nA tomorrow for a laugh.

[Merusk]

This event made me push and scrimp and save to buy up a T-28 after just buying the T-50.  I'm glad I did, it's a much more fun tank than the T-50 and I've made more than I spent on both tanks in the last day.   

[Furiously]

I have made it through the t28, the kv and am hopeful I'll hit the is by tomorrow. Kv-3 seems darn good.

[Merusk]

Damn, how are you racking up so much XP? I'm like 10k away from the KV

[Furiously]

Im good.  Or I play with good people.  I also spent a ton of free exp.

[Merusk]

Ah.. well that explains it. I suck and play solo. I average 150xp a game. It's a long, slow grind for me.

[Furiously]

I'm getting like 500 to 1600. Hitting the kv helps bring it up. I was also playing two tiers up which was fine with the kv's gun.

[apocrypha]

Picked up KV-3, PzIV and VK3001 (H) yesterday... kept me busy!

The KV-3 is a lot of fun but slow to upgrade. 16000 xp just for the first engine and tracks! It's a bit slower than the KV but the turret and gun (both stock unfortunately) are a LOT faster than the KV's, so it's easier to actually get some hits with it 

The PzIV is a nightmare - seems it's bugged and basically cannot turn on anything except paved streets. On grass or rough terrain of any sort it turns more slowly than a stock KV, it's pretty much unplayable.

Not played the VK3001(H) enough yet to say anything much about it. It feels like a bigger, slower PzIII/IV but I'm still mostly stock equipped with it.

Spent most of yesterday morning alternating between 3 of the event tanks. Made nearly 2 million credits! 

[Merusk]

I'm getting like 500 to 1600. Hitting the kv helps bring it up. I was also playing two tiers up which was fine with the kv's gun.

Yeah, I wish I could get that much a win. Even with 5x on the first win I'm usually lucky to hit 5-800.   I can't figure out the xp formula.  Sometimes when half my team rushes off to die, leaving us 8-0 I get more xp for a loss because I tagged a few guys.

And that whole "team rushes and dies horribly" happens a LOT.  The majority of my wins are one guy sneaking in and capping or a really strong player or team getting 2/3 of the kills.

[Der Helm]

 I can't figure out the xp formula. 

Damage rules all. Kills are just for bragging right.

[Merusk]

Well that explains a lot.  Most of the matches in my KV seem to be against Tier 7 or higher tanks. Lots of "bounced off" and "it didn't penetrate" fights.     I'm dying more in it than I ever did playing light tanks.

[Furiously]

 I can't figure out the xp formula. 

Damage rules all. Kills are just for bragging right.

Damage against the higher tier tanks might give more.

[Amarr HM]

Well that explains a lot.  Most of the matches in my KV seem to be against Tier 7 or higher tanks. Lots of "bounced off" and "it didn't penetrate" fights.     I'm dying more in it than I ever did playing light tanks.

Try the derp cannon it makes better XP especially in the high tier games.

[Der Helm]

Well that explains a lot.  Most of the matches in my KV seem to be against Tier 7 or higher tanks. Lots of "bounced off" and "it didn't penetrate" fights.     I'm dying more in it than I ever did playing light tanks.

Try the derp cannon it makes better XP especially in the high tier games.

Use HE.  

[Furiously]

I had a lot more success with the 107 on the KV.

[Amarr HM]

With HE the 152mm can do about 400-500 damage to a T9/10 heavy and about 700-800 to the side of a Lowe or similar.

[Amarr HM]

Toon up with a high tier vehicle (T8+), fit the 152mm derp cannon = profit. I average 730xp a game with the KV, it was about 600 before I started doing this.

[angry.bob]

The 107 is sexual chocolate. ALmost as much damage as the derp, twice as fast firing, and accurate enough to snipe across the map with. Staying far away gets really valuable in higher tier matches where you're a two shot kill and you have a square turret as big as a house. Seriously, the turret of a KV-2 looks like the most comfortable military work environment ever. I bet there's a rack of cots in there too.

[Amarr HM]

Almost as much damage as the derp,

Huh?! No it doesn't, I've managed to one shot SU-152s with the 152mm, usually hit the front of an IS4 for about 400 damage. Shoot the side of a lowe and watch him lose 55% of his HP. Oh and the crits  

and accurate enough to snipe across the map with.

If you like missing half your shots, it has very mediocre map coverage. Decent enough at medium range but I wouldn't exactly put it in the sniper bracket. Won't penetrate shit at long range either.

twice as fast firing

Which means you have to pop out of cover twice as often risking getting shot a lot more.
The 107 is a superior gun I admit, but the 152mm works really well on the KV in a lot of situations.

[apocrypha]

I've moved up to the KV-3 now but in many ways I think I had more fun with the KV and the 152mm. Incredibly slow tank, stupidly slow turret traversal and glacial reload time... but the sweet feeling when you land that shot at point-blank range and ruin the day of the poor schmuck on the receiving end... 

I'm keeping the KV in my garage, that beaut ain't getting sold for a long time!

[disKret]

I've moved up to the KV-3 now but in many ways I think I had more fun with the KV and the 152mm. Incredibly slow tank, stupidly slow turret traversal and glacial reload time... but the sweet feeling when you land that shot at point-blank range and ruin the day of the poor schmuck on the receiving end... 

I'm keeping the KV in my garage, that beaut ain't getting sold for a long time!

Anyway you need a few Tier5 to keep up with credits later on.

[apocrypha]

Yeah, I've noticed that the tier 6's repair & resupply costs have gone up considerably more than the income from them has. 600 credits/shot for the SU-8. I'm picking my targets carefully with that thing!

How often do these special weekends happen? Cos that was an awesome money maker.

[Furiously]

I'm keeping the KV in my garage, that beaut ain't getting sold for a long time!

Keep it and the KV-3. You should get free tanks to replace them with or something when they do the soviet heavy update.

[Merusk]

I've moved up to the KV-3 now but in many ways I think I had more fun with the KV and the 152mm. Incredibly slow tank, stupidly slow turret traversal and glacial reload time... but the sweet feeling when you land that shot at point-blank range and ruin the day of the poor schmuck on the receiving end... 

I'm keeping the KV in my garage, that beaut ain't getting sold for a long time!

I tried the 152 a few times this weekend and loved it... right up until I realized "Oh hey.. I'm one of 4 guys alive, totally alone and there's 3 tanks on the other side of this wall.  Fuck."

I love running with it on city maps (Totally ruined some IS player's day. Ha fucker, thought you had me.) but there's too many wide open areas like the Steppes, the Railway map, the one with the lone rail track and the 2 mountain passes where one of the longer-barreled models work better for reload times alone.  3 shots a minute is just asking to be T7 fodder in most games. 

[apocrypha]

Oh totally, for every game where I've derpsplatted 3 guys there's 4 games where I miss every shot then get danced around by a pack of miniature tanks and pecked to death. I swear they make hyena noises when they do that.



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[Brolan]

Sounds like a classic case of "KV Syndrome".  Or, "I'm a big badass tank that can take on the world by myself."  But you can't; at least not most of the time. 

Try to get some mediums to come with you.  Or in the cat-herding that is random battles, follow a bunch of mediums and you have an instant group of support tanks when they hang back at the first sign of serious opposition.

[Merusk]

Sounds like a classic case of "KV Syndrome".  Or, "I'm a big badass tank that can take on the world by myself."  But you can't; at least not most of the time. 

Try to get some mediums to come with you.  Or in the cat-herding that is random battles, follow a bunch of mediums and you have an instant group of support tanks when they hang back at the first sign of serious opposition.

Nah, my games where I'm not the bottom of the totem t's a case of "fuck there's a lot of lights"  *lights all rush off and die in the first 30s* "well, shit."

I got the upgraded T50 engine today since the money-farm event is over.  Much more fun but damn I can't drive at high speeds for shit yet.  I keep misjudging turns and wind up ramming a wall before being kersplatted by the guys whose turrets I can't out turn anymore.

[apocrypha]

Heh, yeah, 95% of games all the fast tanks rush. Every single time, all lemming in the same direction with a few randomly scattering to wherever they happen to be pointing. On the EU servers I'd say only 30% of people speak English anyway, it's mostly German & Polish. Any attempt to discuss tactics is just farting in a hurricane.

I'm well aware that the KV isn't invulnerable, in fact I feel more vulnerable in that than in most other tanks. The games where I do best with it are when there's several other KVs too, and we hunt in a pack. Not a wolf-pack so much as a hippopotamus-pack.

Oh and the SU-8? WTF is up with the gun? Most inaccurate piece of shit I've ever fired! I know about the reticle shape and the oval shape meaning low arc and positioning tallest part of target in the front third of the reticle, and waiting the ~30 mins for the reticle to shrink... and still I'm only hitting 30% of shots with it :/  I was managing 50% with the SU-5.

[disKret]

ll I'm only hitting 30% of shots with it :/  I was managing 50% with the SU-5.

Its all about the crew.

[Merusk]

Yeah I did notice a huge difference in a 50% vs 100% crew.  Even my T48 with it's weak-ass semi-auto gun but now 70% crew hits things a lot harder than the ~55% crews of my T50 or T28 with bigger guns.

[Ginaz]

Another special event weekend,El Alamein, coming...this weekend, 21-23 Oct.
http://worldoftanks.com/news/794-el-alamein-special/

Tankers! Are you ready for another special this weekend?

The Battle of El Alamein took place from October 23rd to November 5th, 1942. The German and Italian forces were attempting to take over El Alamein to get closer to the Suez Canal. Following two operations, Operation Lightfoot and Operation Bertram, the Allied forces were able to push back the German and Italian forces, thus successfully defending the Suez Canal.

In honor of this Battle, we will be holding another special this weekend, from October 21 – 23.

Details about the special will be released as soon as possible!

 

USA:

    T25 - AT
    M36 Slugger
    M3 Lee
    M7 Priest



German:

    Hetzer
    PzKpfw III
    VK 3002 (DB)
    Grille

[Ginaz]

Some info on upcoming tanks, esp. wrt the French ones.
http://worldoftanks.com/news/801-you-ask-we-reply-upcoming-tanks/

Is it true that the French SPGs will only support a maximum of a 150mm gun?

Since the French SPG will be introduced in late January, we can’t give you any details with regards their characteristics at this time. The case is that in 7.1 we will add only the following tanks, which were balanced and are more or less ready to enter the SuperTest. SPGs were not and their current characteristics and modules are still in flux.

Here is the final list of French tanks which will enter the game in 7.1:

Light:
Renault FT
D1
Hotchkiss H35
AMX 38
AMX 40
AMX 12t
AMX-13/75
AMX-13/90

Medium:
D2
Bat.-Chatillon 25t
Lorraine 40t.

Heavy:
B1
BDR G1 B
ARL-44
AMX M4 (1945)
AMX 50 100 mm
AMX 50 120mm
AMX-50 68t. 

[apocrypha]

Hmm, will probably spend the weekend using M3 and Grille to farm piles of cash then. Although I read bad things about the M3 Lee, is it as bad as people say?

[Ginaz]

Hmm, will probably spend the weekend using M3 and Grille to farm piles of cash then. Although I read bad things about the M3 Lee, is it as bad as people say?

I never played it but everyone seems to hate it.  Its a med that you have to play like a TD, which has a sub par gun.

On a side note, my new E-50 is like electric sex with the top gun I just upgraded to.   Much better than the Patton I have IMO.

[Merusk]

Hmm, will probably spend the weekend using M3 and Grille to farm piles of cash then. Although I read bad things about the M3 Lee, is it as bad as people say?

It's fucking horrible.  The only reason I'm pleased about this weekend is it will get me the last 3k exp I need to get out of the fucking thing.

The gun isn't a problem, and is actually pretty good for the tier matches it gets put in.  The only thing I don't one or two shot are tank destroyers and the odd TIV Heavy tank.  Most matches I've been at the top or near the top of the tier rankings during the lineup.

That said you die easily.  The lee is slow so it's a ripe target for Arty.  It doesn't get the cammo bonus of TDs and until recently (like the last week and a half) you couldn't even lock hull.  Meaning that even trying to sit and snipe didn't work as each time you'd try to scan your reticle would bloom to "not hitting shit" territory.   You also can't set up around corners like a TD because the main gun is offset, exposing 2/3 of your left flank if you ever have to fire to that side.  The right flank isn't much better because the gun doesn't traverse any farther on that side even though it looks like it should.

You are also really vulnerable to smaller tanks who pull the "get behind or beside and push then blow you to bits" maneuver quite easily on your lumbering ass. 

The only maps and situations the tank really shines on are the desert ones.  So many opportunities to blow the bottom off of guys going over hills and dunes, which has proven to be the most effective strategy for me.   The El Halluf map is where I had my best game ever in it, destroying 5 tanks with my Lee.