World of Tanks

[Amarr HM]

Just ran into Garbad AND camador tooned up with a FORGE guy. I got my team's only 2 kills

Those guys print wins.

[Teleku]

Ok, can somebody explain the ramming mechanics to me?  Half of the kills in this game involve ramming the other person to kill them while taking no damage yourself.  Its starting to turn me off.  Is it just insta free damage if you ram any tank?

[Merusk]

More or less free damage, but only if you have a spall liner installed, your driver has that skill to reduce damage or are a LOT heavier than the guy you're ramming.   

It's based on weight, speed and location rammed.  Going downhill in a 50 ton tank and you hit an AMX? He's toast.  However, I've seen lights jump on the backs of heavies off a ridge with the new physics and totally wreck them.

http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Battle_Mechanics#Ramming_Damage

[veredus]

I totally did that yesterday. Climbed up to the light house and dropped off a cliff onto an IS3 in my type 58. Did almost 400 dmg to him and blew us both up. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[kildorn]

It's also a bit silly. My T71 was too close to a Type E that backed into me at it's comically slow speed while I was stationary. I took 70% of my health in damage and died.

[Tmon]

My TOG is death on tracks as far as ramming goes.  People don't realize how much heavier it is than most tanks at tier 6 and anything less than a KV1 will take damage trying to push me up hills.  I appreciate them wanting to help but it gets expensive if I have a good round.

[WayAbvPar]

5x weekend is the perfect time to have 2 of the best games of my life  



LOL @ Steel Wall in my Comet.

[Abagadro]

It is indeed great when it all comes together on a 5x match:

Battle: Widepark Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:41:16 PM
Vehicle: VK 3601 (H)
Experience received: 11,120 (x5 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 44,161
Battle Achievements: Lehväslaiho's Medal, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

[WayAbvPar]

Indeed!

Victory!
Battle: Siegfried Line Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:32:41 PM
Vehicle: IS
Experience received: 10,505 (x5 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 57,919
Battle Achievements: Master Gunner, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

My 3rd Ace and 3rd 10k+ match of the weekend. About time I started playing better.

[Nebu]

Only had time for a few matches this weekend, but did manage an Ace tanker on my 3001P. 

Is it just me or are the battles getting more lopsided?  I either lost big or won big... not many close fights. 

[Merusk]

It was a 5x weekend. It's always like that.  While I enjoy them I wish they'd stop or introduce a ranking system per tank.

As with any MMO the only thing keeping bad players from the end the progression is time. When it's a Single-player experience that's ok.  When their shittiness impacts other players it's a problem.

[kildorn]

There are also a ton of idiots who want the bare minimum 5x. The dumbshits who set autorun on and just point tank towards enemy and get their.. what, 500xp for a 5x? Maybe more if friendlies shoot the things they spot on the way?

I had a match where an entire platoon just rushed the enemy. No attempt to engage when they got there, just dead rushed them and drove through and died without firing a shot.

I also had a 5 arty per side match this weekend where our mediums lit every hostile gun five times in a row with alerts they were going to do it. At no point did any of our arty take a shot at them. >< By the end of the match, the only damage done to hostile arty was snap shots by the spotting mediums.

[Amarr HM]

They won't get their 5x cause they'll lose. 5x weekends are frustrating.

[WayAbvPar]

5x weekend is the perfect time to have 2 of the best games of my life  



LOL @ Steel Wall in my Comet.

Looked at my experience and was like 20k over what I needed for the final gun. So I did this without even being fully upgraded 

[Nebu]

Looked at my experience and was like 20k over what I needed for the final gun. So I did this without even being fully upgraded 

I'm guessing you were top tier with some decent heavies and mediums. 

Under the right circumstances, I love this tank.  On a shitty team it lacks the punch to carry. 

[WayAbvPar]

Yep. I get a surprising number of top tier games in it. They are easy to remember since it comes first alphabetically and so is on the very top of the list. It feels like well over half my games in it are that way, but that is probably just faulty memory.

[Nebu]

If you have any tips, let me know.  I tend to play it like a light with good armor with its speed and mobility.  The guy is great if you are playing support but terrible if caught alone. 

[kildorn]

It has pretty awesome gun depression and a rather bouncy turret. It snipes really well if you can get to an angled sniping spot so you don't just lob shells at the front of heavies. I liked my Comet, but it is a pretty depressing tank if you're just coming down off the Cromwell's overperforming ass.

[Nebu]

Surprisingly, I'm enjoying the british heavies more than I thought I would.  The Churchill VII is crap, but the BP has been quite fun.  I've had to learn to just be more passive with my play.  It's amazing how much the thing can bounce when angled... even against tier 8's.

[kildorn]

I adored the Caern, which is shockingly bouncy if angled.  I'm iffy on the Conq, as it's gun is crazy good, but like all Brits it gets ammo racked in seconds, and the armor is terrible for it's tier.

I may just be terrible in sniping tanks, because I tend to try and aggressively fill holes in my team. I do far better with aggressive mediums.

[Nebu]

I may just be terrible in sniping tanks, because I tend to try and aggressively fill holes in my team. I do far better with aggressive mediums.

I did pretty well with the T20 but struggle with the Pershing.  Any advice on what to do to get the most out of it?   

[kildorn]

I may just be terrible in sniping tanks, because I tend to try and aggressively fill holes in my team. I do far better with aggressive mediums.

I did pretty well with the T20 but struggle with the Pershing.  Any advice on what to do to get the most out of it?   

I played my pershing the same as my T20, basically. Abuse the mantlet of doom and gun depression, and pop into view, take the shot, bail back a bit. You'll bounce more than you'd think. Overall though, I kind of hated my Pershing. The T20 performs really well, but the Pershing is basically just slower and has 20 more pen with a bouncier turret. The 20 pen is nice, but for the most part you're taking the same shots everyone else is at tier 8.

Overall, it's a reasonable tank, but yet another let down from an amazing prior tank. Slower, barely bouncier (the turret is total bullshit though, while the T20's turret is still kind of paper), with a very similar gun.

[Nebu]

Did you guys see the upcoming rule changes on mods?  

Raising a stink on the forums, but not sure why.  Good players will adapt like they do in every pvp game.  

[kildorn]

Laser pointer mod seems useful, never seen it though. The mouseover third person aiming circle is often a lie.

Hitbox skins always struck me as poor play, but meh. They didn't bug me nearly as much as the graphical mods to remove tree/bush clutter to make sniping through obscured bushes easier.

Overall, I have no issues with the idea of basically banning graphical mods and only allowing UI mods.

[Nebu]

The one that surprised me most was how upset the better players are about losing the reload timer mod.  I realize it's nice, but you can easily do without it.

[kildorn]

By my reading, the reload timers would still be legal? I haven't gotten to any comments on it being banned yet, only things where Overlord seems okay with superficial UI changes like jimbo's.

[Tmon]

OL said several times that purely UI mods like reload timer were ok.  I like the reload timer, it's not a live or die thing but it is handy in certain situations.

[Gets]

I'm curious how they can enforce disallowing hitbox clowncar skins while being cool with cosmetic ones.

[Nebu]

Maybe they just put people on double secret probation.  

[kildorn]

From reading around, it looks like Overlord isn't quite on message.

Hitbox SKINS will remain legal. There's some new russian thing that are hit models that are transparent tank models with all the internals on full display. Those are illegal.

Reload timers are perfectly okay.

Foliage reducers are doomed. White skin dead tanks are probably doomed (this is to make it trivial to aim around people using dead tanks as cover)

[Tmon]

Foliage reducers are pretty nasty, I was amazed at how much easier they made the game even though they don't actually impact spotting.  I stopped using the one I found because every update broke it and I got tired of trying to keep it up to date.  These days the only mod I use is Jimbos sight mod.

[Engels]

At some level, I don't get the desire to strip the game of the fantasy of playing tanks. Mod it down enough and you may as well have wire frame boxes shooting pong-like blobs at each other. Its infinitely depressing to be so competitive.

[Merusk]

They're the same kids that always had force fields/ jet packs/ lava-proof shoes.  Their egos are so small and compromised that not being #1 shatters them.

[Brolan]

The clan I was calling home for the past year broke up over the weekend.  The clan leaders got involved in War Thunder while Wargaming was dicking around with Clan Wars.  They decided to stay with War Thunder and dissolve the clan.   

A shame really because while we couldn't hold territories we certainly cut a swath through the landing tournaments.

Besides clan wars being down much of the time, they mentioned how the developers of WT actually seemed to listen to their players.  Wargaming is turning into its own worst enemy.

Not sure if I will stay with Tanks or move on to MWOL or WT.

[Merusk]

It's conversations like that which make me glad I stopped following Developers/ caring about endgames.   I'm still having fun in Single Player, oblivious to the drama over Clan Wars everyone keeps referencing, or any quasi-drama about WG 'not listening to their players.'