World of Tanks

[Nebu]

Had my first sign today that I'm getting better at this game:  A guy in an E2 called me a hacker and that I was an "invisitank" in my Jackson.  

[WayAbvPar]

I hope you told him you were using gold and love shooting n00bs who are too poor to buy gold.

[Furiously]

Had my first sign today that I'm getting better at this game:  A guy in an E2 called me a hacker and that I was an "invisitank" in my Jackson.  

And then I killed Nebu.

[Abagadro]

They need to implement some sort of Starcraft II type tier system.  Being teamed with some of these players in pubs practically makes me want to quit.

[Nebu]

And then I killed Nebu.

I was a tier 7 in a tier 8 match.  I cry foul!

[Strazos]

I just wish my own play was a bit more even - sometimes I put in seemingly-heroic performances, and others...I just die quickly. 

[Nebu]

I just wish my own play was a bit more even - sometimes I put in seemingly-heroic performances, and others...I just die quickly. 

Sometimes you have to cover a weak flank so that your team doesn't get roflstomped.  I have matches where my contribution is little more than holding off large numbers for a few minutes so the other flank can gain an advantage.  Other times you roll with a group of 3 good players like butter through the opposition. 

[Merusk]

I hate that I feel obligated to do just that so often.  It's usually me and a few lights/ meds and we get ROFLSTOMPED anyway in very short order because I found the whole enemy team.  Meanwhile the other flank is being stopped by the top-tier TD an arty and one guy playing peekaboo scout.

I'm sure it doesn't happen as often as it *feels* like it does, but it's maddening to say "Damnit there's one of him, stop playing peekaboo and the 5/6/7 of you stop being so scared of a repair bill and take his ass out already!" so many times in a row

[kildorn]

I hate being forced to hold the scout/point position in a very unarmored tank because every hunk of solid metal has decided to snipe. Seriously, play to your damned strengths people! If I see one more sniping IS-3 in a tier 8 game.. ><

[WayAbvPar]

I think there has been a serious uptick in the amount of bots. There can't be this many just utterly fucking terrible players. I see multiple 42-44% winrates every match. You have to be actively fucking your team over to earn something like that. Like sitting at the cap AFK.

They need to add in more AFK detection. Some kind of popup captcha if more than 3 people report you AFK or something. If you don't respond, 1 hour ban. 2nd offense, 24 hours. 3rd offense- a week. 4th- go make a new account.

[Nebu]

Had a Kv-2 derp sniping next to me last night while I was playing my Jackson in a tier 6 match.

Yes, I said KV-2 and sniping... 

[Gets]

Nothing wrong with derp-sniping. KV-2 is slow, so it's faster to let your shells do the travelling. Leading derp shells is a skill in its own.

[WayAbvPar]

The good news is the reticle is so huge that you don't really have to aim.

[Simond]

I just wish my own play was a bit more even - sometimes I put in seemingly-heroic performances, and others...I just die quickly. 

Tonight I had the best game with my M3 Lee in all the time I've been playing it. Seriously, it was like something finally clicked and I got the tank.
It also gave me just enough xp to unlock the Sherman. 

[Engels]

You always finally come to terms with any given tank and have amazing battles in it just before you unlock the next 

I had a fun one yesterday in my prem 34. I wanted to finish off a 95 at the base of a cliff, but he had ~600 hp left. One shot wouldn't do it, and my team was capping fast. So  I jump off the while shooting. Shot lands, and I destroy myself and the 95, getting kamikaze in the bargain. I recorded it, I'll see if its worth making a gif of it. Anyone know of a good tool for making animated gifs?

[Nebu]

You always finally come to terms with any given tank and have amazing battles in it just before you unlock the next 

That's how I felt in the T20.  I never really liked the tank until about my last 10 battles in it... which I played well.  I'm starting to be sorry that I sold it to buy my pershing. 

[Merusk]

Heh.. your playstyle must be very different from mine, Nebu.  I never came to terms with the T20.  It wasn't terrible like some of the lights or the M7, but I was very happy to be out of it and into the Pershing.

[Nebu]

Heh.. your playstyle must be very different from mine, Nebu.  I never came to terms with the T20.  It wasn't terrible like some of the lights or the M7, but I was very happy to be out of it and into the Pershing.

The only problem I had with the T20 was that I felt VERY dependent on the other players in a given match.  If the heavies were good or I had a couple of type 59's to run with, we would wreck shit.  If I was top tier against an IS and T29, it was rough going.

[WayAbvPar]

I was || that close to uninstalling last night. I think I went about 5 and 17 trying to do my fucking doubles (75% of which never got done). I was tired and not playing my best, but dear sweet fucking babby jesus my teams. My fucking teams. Katiri and Garga dragging me into 2 consecutive tier X matches when I tried to double my SU-152 made me go off on my own...lost three more and logged off in utter fucking disgust. I need a couple of days off I think.

[Nebu]

Looks like WG may be adding a tutorial soon... that may help with the current level of stupid that I'm seeing in randoms. 

Is it me or has there been a lot more mid to high tier suiciders in matches lately?  I'm seeing 1-2 people a match just drive right at the enemy team.  At least AFK'ers light people up for arty. 

[kildorn]

I think my T20 is still my most played tank, and one of my higher win rates. I adored that tank when fully upgraded. Kind of fast, responsive as hell, and short with good gun depression and decent damage.

I kind of hated the Pershing for some reason.

edit: my current hatred tank is my T-34-2, which is just a T-34-1 with shittier matchmaking.

[Merusk]

Looks like WG may be adding a tutorial soon... that may help with the current level of stupid that I'm seeing in randoms. 

Is it me or has there been a lot more mid to high tier suiciders in matches lately?  I'm seeing 1-2 people a match just drive right at the enemy team.  At least AFK'ers light people up for arty. 

Those are bots.  When they sit around and don't move from spawn they don't get cash.  Dying early and stupidly is something you can't code around so... "set direction and go!"

I see a LOT of it on the 50-70% cash increase tanks on the weekends when I play.

[Brolan]

I was || that close to uninstalling last night. I think I went about 5 and 17 trying to do my fucking doubles (75% of which never got done). I was tired and not playing my best, but dear sweet fucking babby jesus my teams. My fucking teams. Katiri and Garga dragging me into 2 consecutive tier X matches when I tried to double my SU-152 made me go off on my own...lost three more and logged off in utter fucking disgust. I need a couple of days off I think.

I have no proof, but as streaky as the wins and losses are I'm convinced something about the matchmaking gets you into a "winner tier" or "loser tier".  Once I get into a losing streak I just log off for an hour or more.

[Nebu]

I have no proof, but as streaky as the wins and losses are I'm convinced something about the matchmaking gets you into a "winner tier" or "loser tier".  Once I get into a losing streak I just log off for an hour or more.

It's just normalization.  Sometimes you have a streak of good groups.  Other times you get weak groups.  Over a few thousand battles it all evens out.  I think humans just have a tendency to remember the extremes more clearly.

[Brogarn]

I haven't played in quite some time which is ridiculous since it's one of the best PvP games out there right now. But as fun as it is, it can bring the rage out in me. I broke my headphones over this game throwing them against the wall after a streak of terrible matches. Oh ya.... that's why I haven't played. Teh Rage. Anyways...

I just wanted to chime in on the T20... the only tank I hated more than that was the M7. Those two tanks still make my left eye twitch when I think about them. The Pershing though? I'd wreck face with that thing. That's a tank that just clicked.

[Merusk]

I have no proof, but as streaky as the wins and losses are I'm convinced something about the matchmaking gets you into a "winner tier" or "loser tier".  Once I get into a losing streak I just log off for an hour or more.

It's just normalization.  Sometimes you have a streak of good groups.  Other times you get weak groups.  Over a few thousand battles it all evens out.  I think humans just have a tendency to remember the extremes more clearly.

Think? You know that.  It's what kept us alive in the wildling days pre-civilization.  The same reason we crave fats and remember bad things but forget pain and bliss quickly, right?

Doesn't explain why we're so inherently shitty at risk estimation and chance, though.

[Nebu]

Doesn't explain why we're so inherently shitty at risk estimation and chance, though.

Optimism/pessimism fucks with your brain in ways I can't begin to explain. 

[Engels]

Upon reflection on my losing streak days, I can often see that I just wasn't really engaged in the game. I took what at the time seemed small risks but were of course critical errors. And I died or was crippled to the point where I didn't do my bit for the team properly.

On good days, when I'm 'on', I instinctually know to stay back a bit more, or aim just that much more carefully. It seems effortless, so it looks like forces beyond my control when I'm winning or losing, but if I'm honest with myself, the days that I'm having bad luck, its often just a large number of small but critical errors or lapses in judgement, sparked by impatience or grumpiness.

[kildorn]

There are also just doomed to failure matches where you can play your absolute best and still be fucked. Losing streaks suck, but just glance at the stats and remind yourself that it really is a trick of memory. Some of my most hated/shittiest tank grinds actually wound up being 58%+ win rate tanks when all I remember in them is hating them and dying constantly.

[WayAbvPar]

Upon reflection on my losing streak days, I can often see that I just wasn't really engaged in the game. I took what at the time seemed small risks but were of course critical errors. And I died or was crippled to the point where I didn't do my bit for the team properly.

On good days, when I'm 'on', I instinctually know to stay back a bit more, or aim just that much more carefully. It seems effortless, so it looks like forces beyond my control when I'm winning or losing, but if I'm honest with myself, the days that I'm having bad luck, its often just a large number of small but critical errors or lapses in judgement, sparked by impatience or grumpiness.

Compound that with NEVER getting a team that can possibly pick up the slack for you and it is wearying.

[angry.bob]

There's also a mindset to get in as many rounds as possible during good specials. When there's a 100% money bonus with anything tier 5 to 7, I just drive straight at the other team get a hit or two in, explode, and go to the next tank. The cheap repairs make the money roll in faster than having good games with my tier 8 premiums.

[Ginaz]

Test server is now up with the new British TDs.  Also, Wargaming has acquired Gas Powered Games, notable for having Chris Taylor(Total Annihilation, Dungeon Siege, Supreme Commander) as its CEO and founder.

http://worldoftanks.com/news/2031-84-public-test/

http://worldoftanks.com/news/2037-wargaming-acquires-gas-powered-games/

[Gets]

People went on the test server and it seems Wargaming is nerfing nerfing German high tier medium gun depression because of a graphical glitch where the gun clips into the model. Why? Who knows! Russian bias is everyone's first guess.

Also E-75, because why stop at making one line of nazi shitbarges unfun to play.

[Strazos]

So...if anyone is interested, I'd like to know what I did right, but more importantly what I might have done wrong in this game:

http://mwreplays.com/replay/TP0KNDVTRMHV/

Really wish I had battle recording turned on for a monster 8-kill PZIV game yesterday. 

And speaking of recording - is there any demonstrated performance hit for having it enabled?

[Teleku]

So, at long last, I've installed this game.  Been meaning to for years, but for some stupid reason, never did.  Can somebody please write out a very quick guide that briefly explains things, or link me to a good starter?  I've been googling, but its mostly been shit.  I'm doing random games, and figuring out things by trial and error, but I'm sure one of you vets here could give me a one or two paragraph summary of what I should do, and how to advance.  Particularly, if you could explain how the whole research, crew member, tank buying shit works (or more specifically, what I should advance in), that would be a big help.  I'm afraid to spend anything until I know exactly whats going on!