World of Tanks

[Gets]

8.4 rumours are starting to spread. Not sure I like the Luchs being moved up a tier.

New British TDs:
Universal Carrier QF 2 Pounder
Alecto
Valentine AT
AT-2
AT-7
Gun Carrier Churchill
AT-8
AT-15
A39 Tortoise
FV215b(183)

New German light tanks:
PzI
PzI Ausf C
PzII Ausf G

Luchs moved up to tier 4.
Leopard moved up to tier 5.
VK2801 moved up to tier 6. All three are rebalanced.

The only thing that would make that GIF better if the tracks could shoot out sparks scraping the cobblestones like that.

[Ginaz]

8.4 rumours are starting to spread. Not sure I like the Luchs being moved up a tier.

New British TDs:
Universal Carrier QF 2 Pounder
Alecto
Valentine AT
AT-2
AT-7
Gun Carrier Churchill
AT-8
AT-15
A39 Tortoise
FV215b(183)

New German light tanks:
PzI
PzI Ausf C
PzII Ausf G

Luchs moved up to tier 4.
Leopard moved up to tier 5.
VK2801 moved up to tier 6. All three are rebalanced.

The only thing that would make that GIF better if the tracks could shoot out sparks scraping the cobblestones like that.

I've done something like that before in one of the Chinese lights, WZ-131 or WZ-132.  Btw, I've seen that targeting mod before.  Where would I find it?  It looks great.

[WayAbvPar]

Looks like Jimb0's. I love it.

[Nebu]

Looks like Jimb0's. I love it.

What's the big advantage to that mod over the standard interface?  Just having the reload time numerically displayed?

[Merusk]

Don't underestimate the effect of seeing the actual number has on your decisions vs. seeing the tick marks.

It's one thing to say "Oh only 3 more ticks I can squeeze off this shot then move" and another when you see that's actually "5.52 seconds."

[Tmon]

Yeah, it's the only mod I use.  It is especially nice when you are doing berm drills or corner peeks.

[Ginaz]

Yeah, it's the only mod I use.  It is especially nice when you are doing berm drills or corner peeks.

I don't use any mods or hit skins, either.  All my stats are modless and solo pub.  I always wonder how much better my stats would be if I used mods or platoons.

[Simond]

8.4 rumours are starting to spread. Not sure I like the Luchs being moved up a tier.

Confirmed: http://worldoftanks.eu/news/5995-announcing-update-84/

The various Tortoise-prototypes (AT-7 et. al.) all look utterly ridiculous in a  manner, btw:


(Also a distinct lack of Sherman Firefly in the TD line so premium tank it is, then).

[Merusk]

I bought the premium TD and agree. It's an odd-looking duck but in a really awesome way.

[WayAbvPar]

Looks like Jimb0's. I love it.

What's the big advantage to that mod over the standard interface?  Just having the reload time numerically displayed?

Also has an arty shell travel time, which is very useful. But I mostly love it because it looks so much better than the stock.

[Tmon]

(Also a distinct lack of Sherman Firefly in the TD line so premium tank it is, then).

I figure the Firefly and the Archer (M10 with 17 pounder) will both be tier 6 premiums.  If they get favorable matchmaker treatment they will be fairly decent.

Heard from one the Euro community folks I know that there will be a lend lease tree for the Brits that will contain the Sherman variants and a second TD tree for the things like Archer and Achilles.  No dates just sometime in the future.

Edit due to some new info.

[angry.bob]

I can't wait for that to come out and everyone just shoots the commander's cuppula a couple of times and blows it up. Sort of like the turrets on the otherwise great french TD's. Also, it looks like it serves no purpose at all other than to be really heavy and mount a couple of mediocre guns that they had laying around.

Also, British people: Put more zazz into naming stuff. "Gun II", seriously? Cruiser and Medium Mk. I through whatever is bad enough, calling several completely different tanks by the exact same name is worse, but "Gun II" for tank guns?

[Merusk]

British People: Bad at Marketing.

[Abagadro]

They changed up the efficiency ratings calculator to make capture points not so over-represented. Mine jumped up nearly 100 points so I guess I wasn't capping much.

[Ginaz]

I can't wait for that to come out and everyone just shoots the commander's cuppula a couple of times and blows it up. Sort of like the turrets on the otherwise great french TD's. Also, it looks like it serves no purpose at all other than to be really heavy and mount a couple of mediocre guns that they had laying around.

Also, British people: Put more zazz into naming stuff. "Gun II", seriously? Cruiser and Medium Mk. I through whatever is bad enough, calling several completely different tanks by the exact same name is worse, but "Gun II" for tank guns?

Yeah, that copula is a pretty obvious weak spot.  Its big enough that it should be fairly easy to hit, even from a distance.

[apocrypha]

Also, British people: Put more zazz into naming stuff. "Gun II", seriously? Cruiser and Medium Mk. I through whatever is bad enough, calling several completely different tanks by the exact same name is worse, but "Gun II" for tank guns?

Hang on, let me just nip back in time and have a quiet word with a few chaps, pip pip.

[Merusk]

That's not even the biggest problem of that tank if we're pointing flaws out. The KV-5 has a similar weak point and people STILL ignore the shit out of it until you tell them to shoot it.

To me the biggest problem is, like the M3Lee it's going to have one usable gun and I'll bet it's the smallest one.  On Brit tanks that already have "meh" guns that's a bit of a problem.  Plus it's going to be offset so you're only good on one side of cover. The other leaves you fully exposed trying to get a shot and being British it's going to be so damn slow you'll never be able to peekaboo to attempt to make up for that.

[Gets]

But think of the sidescraping opportunities!

[Abagadro]

They changed up the efficiency ratings calculator to make capture points not so over-represented. Mine jumped up nearly 100 points so I guess I wasn't capping much.

Aaaand, now its back down. They can't seem to decide what they want to do with it. Heh.

[WayAbvPar]

I lost 50 points on mine! Apparently I am a capping motherfucker or something.

OK- have a brain teaser for your experienced folks. I also sent this in as a support ticket, because I am genuinely curious.

Just finished a match in my StugIII.
Shots fired- 25
direct hits- 21
penetrations- 17
damage- 1874
Enemies damaged- 7
Enemies destroyed-4
Base Capture points- 31
base XP gained- 661

Churchill III on the same team
Shots fired- 22
direct hits- 18
penetrations- 16
damage- 949
Enemied detected-4
Enemies damaged- 5
Enemies destroyed-2
Damage on detecting- 155
base XP gained- 931

I had nearly double the damage, double the kills, more enemies damaged, and base cap points. He had detection points. How on earth did he earn roughly 40% more XP than I did? Is there that significant a bonus to premium tanks?

[Abagadro]

I was always under the impression that is mattered who your damage was against with damage to tiers higher than yourself worth progressively more XP. Detecting (both number of vehicles and damage while) seems to juice XP more than it should as well.  I have nothing objective to base those on other than seeing my own matches.

I've also noticed that TDs get shortchanged a bit. For some reason it seems like my 122-54 get really crappy XP even when I have monster games.

[Nebu]

Range to target and tier of target.  If the church was up close and personal with higher tier tanks, he wins.

Edit: looks like Ab beat me to it.

[WayAbvPar]

We were both top tier tanks, so he wasn't damaging anything higher tier. And even if he was- I literally did double the damage he did. Being close shouldn't mean that much, should it? Oh- maybe I was splitting my XP with my spotters- shot a ton of shit that was probably not spotted by me. That is probably what it was.

[Merusk]

Yeah. He was spotting you were sniping. That's what Damage after spotting means doesn't it?

[WayAbvPar]

That is how much damage other tanks did to stuff you spotted.

[Merusk]

Yeah, that's what i was saying, he was spotting for someone and that's why he has that line. Though for some reason I thought it was displaying straight XP for that not actual damage when I typed it last night.

What probably happened was that since you were sniping someone else may have been doing the observation, so you only get 50% xp for damage done.  Check the other tanks that were around where you were shooting and see what their DAD stats say.

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/170194-spotting-xp/

[WayAbvPar]

Even if I only got half of the XP for ALL the damage I did (pretty sure I did at least some in my own view range), that would leave us about even in damage XP. I can understand him being close or  slightly more XP, but 40% is quite a bit. Wonder if the premiums get a bonus to XP as well as credits?

On the efficiency rating changes- there is conjecture that the XVM folks switched from efficiency to WN6 (used at noobmeter.com among other places). I can't tell for sure- my efficiency and WN6 are within 10 points of each other on noobmeter, and the in game display is right in the middle  Check yours and see.

[Ginaz]

Even if I only got half of the XP for ALL the damage I did (pretty sure I did at least some in my own view range), that would leave us about even in damage XP. I can understand him being close or  slightly more XP, but 40% is quite a bit. Wonder if the premiums get a bonus to XP as well as credits?

On the efficiency rating changes- there is conjecture that the XVM folks switched from efficiency to WN6 (used at noobmeter.com among other places). I can't tell for sure- my efficiency and WN6 are within 10 points of each other on noobmeter, and the in game display is right in the middle  Check yours and see.

My eff. went down, from 1490 to 1440.

[Abagadro]

They are now showing four different ratings (no idea what Bronysite rating is) on the wot-news page. Mine are all over the place:

Efficiency rating
1485.12   

Old Efficiency rating
1475.54

WN6 Rating
1575

[Merusk]

Even if I only got half of the XP for ALL the damage I did (pretty sure I did at least some in my own view range), that would leave us about even in damage XP. I can understand him being close or  slightly more XP, but 40% is quite a bit. Wonder if the premiums get a bonus to XP as well as credits?

No bonus that I've ever heard about. I think it's just straight credits.

Oh and a little research has shown me that all TD players seem to complain of the same thing. Looks like TDs get an XP penalty under the hood, but no statement one way or another has been made that I can find.

[Nebu]

I'm certain that I read that range to target affects xp.  This would explain why xp in arty and td's is lower than heavies, particularly brawlers.

[Tmon]

You get a bonus for engaging at short range (less than 200 meters)  there's a chart on the Wiki that covers what does and does not give XP http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Battle_Mechanics#Experience_and_Credits

[WayAbvPar]

You get a bonus for engaging at short range (less than 200 meters)  there's a chart on the Wiki that covers what does and does not give XP http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Battle_Mechanics#Experience_and_Credits

So according the the wiki, there is no difference in XP rewarded for damage; only credits are cut in half if you are not spotting them yourself. Did I read that right? And the bonus for  < 200m is "very small". Now I am even more confused.

[Gets]

Videos from a Russian webcast that has cinematic replays from contest entries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRijxk5laAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1gQnRQ4qTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW-YxvjiAhI

Also Clam Warz is back on NA, now with less dev incompetence and elitist cronyism.

[Gets]