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Reply #2450 on: July 23, 2012, 10:00:26 AM

I am coming up on the Lorraine, but don't have the credits for it unless I sell my 13 90. Not sure I want to do that, although it would be nice to dump the 100% + 100% first skill 15% 2nd skill in the Lorraine. I am assuming it will cost me more to repurchase after it goes up a tier, so I might just hang onto it and buy a new crew for it.

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Reply #2451 on: July 23, 2012, 12:06:07 PM

I am coming up on the Lorraine, but don't have the credits for it unless I sell my 13 90. Not sure I want to do that, although it would be nice to dump the 100% + 100% first skill 15% 2nd skill in the Lorraine. I am assuming it will cost me more to repurchase after it goes up a tier, so I might just hang onto it and buy a new crew for it.

It's what I would do. One of the reasons I'm so broke in game is I Still have almost all my old tanks with equipment and crews at 100%+. It's Stupid for the most part, but with higher tiers being generally unfun clan wankoffs I enjoy going back to old, cheap, well equiped and trained tanks. I used to leapfrog crews every two tanks as I went up the lines, but now I just say fuckit and buy new crews at 100.

Also, thanks for the advice on which to get first. I was seriously considering the JagdTiger, but there's no realistic way to have it elited and have xp banked on it by the E100 TD is put in. It just sucks that I have so many tanks to buy. That's just the German stuff and even constantly battling with my T34 and Lowe it's a lot of grinding.

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Reply #2452 on: July 23, 2012, 12:09:03 PM

Tier 6 the best non-premium tier for grinding credits?  I have 3 tier 7's and they seem to make money pretty well but I'd like to optimize the cashflow on the way to a tier 9 that I want.

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Reply #2453 on: July 23, 2012, 01:03:30 PM

Tier 6 the best non-premium tier for grinding credits?  I have 3 tier 7's and they seem to make money pretty well but I'd like to optimize the cashflow on the way to a tier 9 that I want.

I found both my T-34 (Tier 5) and the Valentine (Tier 4) (got it for free due to playing beta) to be provide me with better cash than the T-34-85. Can't really say anything for other tank lines though.

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Reply #2454 on: July 23, 2012, 01:06:36 PM

Not sure since I have a premium account and use gold tanks. My T34 earns 110,000 on a good win, about 80 with an okay win, and 34,000 on a loss where I get killed without firing a shot. The Lowe earns a little bit less than that.

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Reply #2455 on: July 23, 2012, 01:08:53 PM

Not sure since I have a premium account and use gold tanks. My T34 earns 110,000 on a good win, about 80 with an okay win, and 34,000 on a loss where I get killed without firing a shot. The Lowe earns a little bit less than that.

Any idea what I could make with a tier 5 premium?  They are a bit more reasonable when it comes to cost.

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Reply #2456 on: July 23, 2012, 01:24:56 PM

The tier 5 prems aren't worth it IMO.

Much better earning potential from tier 6 I find - the US meds in particular, Sherman Easy 8 top of the list :)

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Reply #2457 on: July 23, 2012, 02:05:33 PM

Not sure since I have a premium account and use gold tanks. My T34 earns 110,000 on a good win, about 80 with an okay win, and 34,000 on a loss where I get killed without firing a shot. The Lowe earns a little bit less than that.

Any idea what I could make with a tier 5 premium?  They are a bit more reasonable when it comes to cost.
I bought a Churchill when they were on sale a few weeks back. I hardly notice the difference in silver between it and other tanks around its level. It never loses money, but it doesn't seem to really roll in. Type 59 OTOH, makes A LOT more money. I have only cracked $100k a couple of times, but even sub-average wins will garner $40-50k. Worst I ever do is about $25k (in a loss where I get killed early and my team gets rolled).

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Reply #2458 on: July 23, 2012, 03:25:08 PM

The tier 5 prems aren't worth it IMO.

Much better earning potential from tier 6 I find - the US meds in particular, Sherman Easy 8 top of the list :)

^^ This.  If you're not going to shell-out for a Tier-8 premium go with the E8.  Made lots of money in that tank, but nowhere near the premiums. 

I feel your pain, Bob.  I don't have my 13-75 or Su-152 because I'm poor right now.  Sold off some nice tanks just to be able to afford the T-32 as it is.  No way I'll be able to buy the Pershing when I unlock it in another few weeks.

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Reply #2459 on: July 23, 2012, 09:24:31 PM

Jumbo Sherman at least at one point seemed to do as well as the easy 8 credit wise if you like a slower more armored play style. It also has the bonus of being able to unlock the M6 and the T20 if you don't have them unlocked yet. I used to run it with the starter turret (better armor then upgraded one) and the derp 105. No idea how well it does in that setup with the change to HE that happened awhile ago.

Now I do really well with my T150 credit wise, specially when I get a good run of tier 6 and 7 battles.
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Reply #2460 on: July 24, 2012, 06:53:17 PM

Jumbo Sherman at least at one point seemed to do as well as the easy 8 credit wise if you like a slower more armored play style. It also has the bonus of being able to unlock the M6 and the T20 if you don't have them unlocked yet. I used to run it with the starter turret (better armor then upgraded one) and the derp 105. No idea how well it does in that setup with the change to HE that happened awhile ago.

Now I do really well with my T150 credit wise, specially when I get a good run of tier 6 and 7 battles.

It's slow speed is a hinderance as you get out-flanked by faster meds or forced into fighting heavies.  The E8 is far superior IMO.
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Reply #2461 on: July 25, 2012, 08:53:55 AM

I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but there is a Greasemonkey script for WOT that adds a bunch of stats to the player profile page. Worth a look for Firefox users.

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Reply #2462 on: July 27, 2012, 09:46:13 AM

It's slow speed is a hinderance as you get out-flanked by faster meds or forced into fighting heavies.  The E8 is far superior IMO.

I was just reading the patch notes for 7.5.  Apparently the E8 is getting it's credits nerfed and it's repair costs raised.
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Reply #2463 on: July 27, 2012, 09:58:57 AM

It's slow speed is a hinderance as you get out-flanked by faster meds or forced into fighting heavies.  The E8 is far superior IMO.

I was just reading the patch notes for 7.5.  Apparently the E8 is getting it's credits nerfed and it's repair costs raised.

Again?Huh??

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Reply #2464 on: July 27, 2012, 10:28:53 AM

Specials-



Guess who just bought a Lorraine??  Heartbreak Discount on garage slots is nice, as is 2x crew training. I should be able to buy an M4 as well.



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Reply #2465 on: July 27, 2012, 10:33:18 AM

It's slow speed is a hinderance as you get out-flanked by faster meds or forced into fighting heavies.  The E8 is far superior IMO.

I was just reading the patch notes for 7.5.  Apparently the E8 is getting it's credits nerfed and it's repair costs raised.
Boooo. Guess I'll have to sell mine again.   These days I only seem to make money on the gold tanks.  Last night I had a win on the T32 where I only took 2 rounds and popped 3 guys.   I won 6k credits less than it took to reload 8 shots and repair the tank.   I don't even play the T-50-2 anymore because that fucker's guaranteed to die and cost me money.  

I can't decide if these are coming down from clan wars bullshit or if they're getting greedy.  Either way it's going to hurt them in the long run if they don't knock it off.

As a secondary bitch: I'm getting tired of mouthy clan bitches in games.  Yeah, we may only be 'pubbies' but if you look at the list you'll see the only reason you've got this match going is because 50-75% of us ARE pubbies.

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Reply #2466 on: July 27, 2012, 01:44:42 PM

Boooo. Guess I'll have to sell mine again.   These days I only seem to make money on the gold tanks.

The nerf didn't look so bad that you'd want to sell it.  -7% credits and +20% repair costs.  It doesn't cost much to repair now so +20% isn't going to be much.  Still I wish they'd bring back the Type 59.  I missed it and I hate heavies.  I hear the new Super Patton kind of sucks.
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Reply #2467 on: July 27, 2012, 02:20:25 PM

Still I wish they'd bring back the Type 59.

Eh, at some point I missed they seriously nerfed its speed, manueverability, and even the bounciness it seems like. You're not missing out on anything.

Clan people in this game have annoyed me more than clan people in any other game ever. I don't know why, but they're just a lot shittier than normal.

Also, the specials the last couple months have sucked hard. They better have a 5X exp and half off equipment special in August.

And yeah, the seemingly eternal grind for cash is wearing on me. Even with a premium account I'm not making anywhere near the cash I used to unless I just switch between the Lowe and T34 when one gets killed. It's still a lot more fun than farming shit in WoW, but farming is still farming.

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Reply #2468 on: July 27, 2012, 02:24:36 PM

I just run through my doubles for (some) cash, then alternate between my 59 and what tank(s) I am grinding. Also- check your depot for unused equipment for extra cash.

Also- I read somewhere that they were bringing the 59 back to the store in August.

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Reply #2469 on: July 27, 2012, 02:27:11 PM

Guess who just bought a Lorraine??  Heartbreak Discount on garage slots is nice, as is 2x crew training. I should be able to buy an M4 as well.


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Reply #2470 on: July 27, 2012, 02:34:30 PM

They nerfed the bounciness and speed on the Type 59, AND upped it a tier.  It's still fun but you run in to a lot more "fuck, I'm useless except for scouting" matches than you once did.   Pen is listed as 131-219, but we all know it takes gold rounds and perfect perpendicular to hit that 219.  I've had AMX 13's shrug off shots at midrange.

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Reply #2471 on: July 27, 2012, 02:57:43 PM

59 is like any other medium (except maybe the Patton, which is some kind of monster)- you can normally pen stuff around your tier, but anything above you takes some maneuvering to hit the sweet spots. It is actually a good tank to learn that in- it was what I drove most often when I first started and the lessons have served me well.

Fur- Let's have a Lorraine party tonight. You can show me what it looks like when it is upgraded and I will beat my face against my keyboard in frustration.

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Reply #2472 on: July 27, 2012, 05:44:04 PM

Still I wish they'd bring back the Type 59.

Eh, at some point I missed they seriously nerfed its speed, manueverability, and even the bounciness it seems like. You're not missing out on anything.

I'm missing out on owning a tier 8 gold medium.   There are none in the store now.
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Reply #2473 on: August 01, 2012, 11:08:51 PM

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Reply #2474 on: August 02, 2012, 04:22:05 AM


I'm missing out on owning a tier 8 gold medium.   There are none in the store now.

The Super Pershing will be in store today once the patch is in.  It's slow, and very heavily armored  over the hull and turret front with a decent if slow firing gun.  It isn't going to be  DRILLING AND MANLINESS but it will be a decent earner and you can use it to train up your US medium crews.  I won't be buying it because I already have enough (6) premiums.
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Reply #2475 on: August 02, 2012, 07:25:13 AM

I'm really liking the new free tier 5 French light I got. It's tiny as hell and goes 65 kph. Using as a passive scout and/or TD has worked out pretty well so far today. Lack of turret traverse really hurts it for moble uses it seems.

The new matchmaker so far appears to have wrecked the fun of lower stuff, at least for me. My pimped out l33ttractor has been tossed into battles with tier 2-3 stuff this morning, and it's just not able to handle that very well.

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Reply #2476 on: August 02, 2012, 07:38:54 AM

I like the new French tier V as well, the 90 is a good gun but low rate of fire and lack of traverse means that you are not going to run out and circle strafe enemy tanks to death.  Use the speed to get to a good spot and then act as passive scout/TD seems the way to go with it.
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Reply #2477 on: August 02, 2012, 09:05:32 AM

T10 mediums are expensive to run.

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Reply #2478 on: August 02, 2012, 09:20:30 AM

E8 crippled as an earner  Heartbreak

Looks like the T8 premiums catch a pretty big break in the MM now. Only battle tier 8 and 9 fights, which means no Tier X fights ever. That should make up for the lack of earning power of my Easy.

Looking forward to seeing how everything plays now. Will sell my elited Marder II now most likely- had it in the garage to torture newbies with, but they nerfed the SHIT out of it. And now I have my first T IX vehiclle...hurray, I guess.

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Reply #2479 on: August 02, 2012, 10:26:42 AM

E8 crippled as an earner  Heartbreak

What?  NOOOooooooooo!

This may force me to buy the SuperPershing.  Ugh.

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Reply #2480 on: August 02, 2012, 12:48:37 PM

How is the super pershing? I haven't had time to look at any info.
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Reply #2481 on: August 02, 2012, 03:06:52 PM

I really wish every patchday wasn't "Try to get WoT to go past the loading screen and/or reinstall all your mods" day.

Super Pershing? More like Slow Pershing.
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Reply #2482 on: August 03, 2012, 09:05:37 AM

Heart my M48A1. Port was fun the one time I got it as a map. New MM so far has been a pretty great change. All in all a great patch, so far.
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Reply #2483 on: August 03, 2012, 09:41:28 AM

The MM seems to be working as advertised.  With the exception of the tier 5 lights, every game I was in last night had a maximum 2 tier spread and I didn't notice any differnce in the time it took to join a game.  This might bring back a lot of people that left as the MM imbalance seemed to be the biggest gripe.  As for the new tanks, I played the new French light a bit.  Its kind of weird since it feels more like a fast TD than a light tank, given the fact the turret has a very limited rotation.  I haven't decided which of the new tier 10's to go for first.  I was thinking of getting either the new US turreted TD or the Soviet medium.  Need lots more xp and money first. Heartbreak
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Reply #2484 on: August 03, 2012, 10:26:14 AM

I wish my good machine was running.  Heartbreak   Patched the old machine last night and I agree, this is a lot more fun than the wider spread.  No camping because you didn't know where the big tanks were and the SU-100 feels stronger, despite the nerf, because I can pen most of the stuff I'm getting stuck with now.  I didn't have any waits, either, so the bigger spread seems to have been pointless. 

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