World of Tanks

[angry.bob]

Yeah, it's probably the HE change. I'd go through all my tanks for the double XP and usually make between 750,000 and 900,000 credits each day. Since the change I haven't broke 600,000. Even with my Tier 8 stuff I'm never more than 3/4 the way to the top of the roster so I was usually using HE to support our tier 9/10 by critting the opposing teams gun/turret/ammo. To experiment I bought some gold ammo for my Lowe and T32. They completely tore shit up and made 90+k each. I hate to spend my gold on ammo, but I've got such a backlog of tanks I need to buy to keep progressing that it'll take months to do otherwise.

[Merusk]

Well that explains why I was making shit for money.  I expected HE to work the way they describe it now so I always stuck with AP and couldn't figure out why everyone loved it so much.  Guess I should have done more research.

[Ginaz]

Looks like 7.1 is being released tomorrow.  Some major changes are coming including the all new French line of tanks.

http://worldoftanks.com/news/933-update-v71-maintenance/

[Simond]

Still waiting for British tanks.

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Okay, technically I'm still waiting for the Sherman Firefly.

[Brolan]

Still waiting for British tanks.

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Okay, technically I'm still waiting for the Sherman Firefly.

I'd like to see the Comet.

[angry.bob]

Still waiting for British tanks.

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Okay, technically I'm still waiting for the Sherman Firefly.

Come on, there's plenty of British tanks in the game. They just cost real money and have red stars on the sides.

[Gets]

Ram II is under-appreciated 

[Ginaz]

FYI, theres now a gift shop where you can buy gold and premium tanks and either keep it yourself or give it to someone else.  Some of the gift packages come with gold and a tank, the A-32, the PzKpfw V-IV or the M6A2E1.  I was going to buy some gold in the near future anyway, so I got the package that came with the M6A2E1.  I always wanted it but didn't think I'd ever have it since it was a pre-order tank..

http://worldoftanks.com/news/937-gift-shop/

https://worldoftanks.com/personal/gifts/

[Pendan]

FYI, theres now a gift shop where you can buy gold and premium tanks and either keep it yourself or give it to someone else.  Some of the gift packages come with gold and a tank, the A-32, the PzKpfw V-IV or the M6A2E1.  I was going to buy some gold in the near future anyway, so I got the package that came with the M6A2E1.  I always wanted it but didn't think I'd ever have it since it was a pre-order tank..

http://worldoftanks.com/news/937-gift-shop/

https://worldoftanks.com/personal/gifts/

And another company breaks its promise of never making a limited time exclusive available again in search of more money. They could at least add something to the end of the name like the Pz IV alpha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjrcccTN-HQ At the 1:20 mark, CEO of Wargaming.net, "You will never ever get these tanks in the future".

[Abagadro]

Ya, that kinda sucks. I get questions nearly every time I play my M6A2E1 about how to get it and it was kinda fund to say "can't get it any more".  It was a nice perk for people who had supported the game from day 1.

[Tmon]

Bummer about the release tanks being available again, I kind of liked being a special snowflake.  On a different note, the French tanks are 'interesting'  I've gotten 5 steel walls in my tier 4 AMX40 light tank, the thing is bouncy as all heck and the same tier French guns have such bad penetration that a predominantly French match can drag on forever.  One of my steel walls included getting hit 32 times.

[Abagadro]

Ya, having the same experience in my amx38. If I am top tank its pretty fun. If not, I can't pen a thing. Makes me think about my aim again a lot though after playing guns that can pen almost anywhere on a tank.

[Engels]

I may have to go back to that tier 4 and play it again. I got thrown into higher tier matches and it was no fun whatsoever, so I sold it after getting the Tier 5 light.

The tier 5 light is not quite fast enough to avoid getting one shotted on a scout run, tho, so I'm unclear as to its role. It seems to be thrown into high tier matches.

[angry.bob]

Bummer about the release tanks being available again, I kind of liked being a special snowflake.  On a different note, the French tanks are 'interesting'  I've gotten 5 steel walls in my tier 4 AMX40 light tank, the thing is bouncy as all heck and the same tier French guns have such bad penetration that a predominantly French match can drag on forever.  One of my steel walls included getting hit 32 times.

Yeah, the Almost all french matches patch morning were a nightmare of plinked shots while the one not-french tank on each side rolled around slowly killing everyone. That said I'm keeping my AMX-40 forever. It's perversely beautiful in a cartoonish way - like it was designed by Miyazaki. It's big gun also isn't bad and people underestimate it and get cocky. Once I get the crew to 100% and toss in a rammer and fan it should be pretty decent in lower matches. All the french tanks so far are useless as scouts, but I'm interested in seeing what a tier 7 light is like.

[angry.bob]

FYI, theres now a gift shop where you can buy gold and premium tanks and either keep it yourself or give it to someone else.  Some of the gift packages come with gold and a tank, the A-32, the PzKpfw V-IV or the M6A2E1.  I was going to buy some gold in the near future anyway, so I got the package that came with the M6A2E1.  I always wanted it but didn't think I'd ever have it since it was a pre-order tank..

http://worldoftanks.com/news/937-gift-shop/

https://worldoftanks.com/personal/gifts/

They removed all those packages. Now it's just the Lowe, KV-5, some big ammount of gold, and 3000 gold. No cool tanks for me I guess.

[Gets]

I enjoyed this PC Gamer article where the CEO of Wargaming basically smugs it out by ripping on EA and Valve.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/09/08/wargaming-net-ceo-it-would-take-ea-two-and-a-half-years-to-replicate-world-of-tanks/

[Nebu]

I saw mention of "World of Warplanes" in the article.  Holy crap, sign me up!!!

My honeymoon period with SWTOR is about over.  I'm really appreciating just how good WoT is and will be playing more soon. 

[Mortriden]

Yes, World of Warplanes is in Alpha right now.  World of Warships is next.  Nothing as far as a (reliable) possible release date for either for the moment. 

Also, low level French tanks eat raw turds.  Being a T4 thrown in with T7's and not being able to pen the rear of a tank... sucks.  Lots.

[Nebu]

Being any kind of a tier IV and being with tier VII and VIII sucks.  The matchmaker makes me weep on occasion.

[Gets]

I honestly have no idea what you mean.

[Ginaz]

Well, if you wanted to buy a Type 95 but haven't done so already, you better do it before 16 Jan. because they will be removing the option to buy them.  I guess all the complaining about them worked.

http://worldoftanks.com/news/953-type-59-game-store-removal/

"Commanders,

We will soon be updating the World of Tanks in-game store. As of January 16, 2012, the Type 59 premium tank will be removed from the in-game store after the server restart, which will take place at 6:00-6:30AM EST (11:00-11:30 UTC). While the tank will not be available for purchase, all existing Type 59 owners will keep their tank intact.

This decision has been made to ensure a healthy gameplay balance at higher tiers, and also to encourage a wider variety of tier 8 medium tank usage. If the Type 59 becomes available for purchase again during special events in the future, we will be sure to provide ample notice.

Again, the Type 59 will be removed from the in-game store on January 16, 2012 after the server downtime scheduled for 6:00-6:30AM EST (11:00-11:30 UTC). If you are considering purchasing the tank, we encourage you to do so before this point, as it will not be available for purchase as of January 16, 2012."

[Gets]

[Trippy]

I'm a TAAAANK!

[Pendan]

I guess all the complaining about them worked.

Statistics were backing up the complaining about the sheer number of Type 59s. The Type 59 had the second most played number of games during the month from the end of 6.7 to the start of 7.1 on the EU server. http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/65256-unofficial-eu-server-statistics-ii/ Additionally, in post 238, the thread author says during the month the number of Type 59s owned had increased by over 38%. He also stated the "unhealthy situation" was "more pronounced" on the Russian server.

Despite the income I don't think games like this one on the Chinese server were thought to be good for the health of the game:

Edit: This US server match happened yesterday according to poster

[Amarr HM]

I always thought it was a bit overpowered alright, it was only slight worse than the T54 & miles better than any other T8 medium.

[Engels]

Its basically a 44 in easy mode. I caved, bought one, not for the game play but for the cash. Easily netting 80-90 k per match, short of a disastrous start.

Irony is that I'm working a 44 up to a 54 right now, and when I go up against a 44 in my 59, I feel terrible about killing him so easily. I feel like a parent,"this is hurting me more than its hurting you!" for every time the fucker bounces and I pen him.

[angry.bob]

Edit: This US server match happened yesterday according to poster

I've neve been in a match against 8 of them but against 6 is pretty common. Since I only play in random pub matches it almost always ends in being raped since nobody is willing to just sit still with me and focus fire on them as they come charging in. They're pretty easy to kill, especially once you figure out where to shoot to rack them, but people usually just get isolated by 3-4 of them and get killed. Except to make fast money I don't even play mine any more.

[Nebu]

So where is the best way to shoot a 59?  I have a tier VI medium and a TD and they just laugh at me, kill me, and fly on by. 

[Abagadro]

I'm going to stupidly stand on principle and not buy one of those  fucking things even though I could really use a better credit farm.

[Brolan]

It's not real fair to new players who get abused by hordes of Type 59s.  They will ask "Where do I get one of those?"   Answer:  "Sorry, you just get bent over; take it like a man!"

[angry.bob]

So where is the best way to shoot a 59?  I have a tier VI medium and a TD and they just laugh at me, kill me, and fly on by. 

They have Ammo racks all over the place. The turret ammo racks go from about 2:00 to about 8:30 looking down on the turret with the gun being 12:00. So the entire back of the turret and the right side of the turret from about halfway on the front grab handle on back. The hull also has 3 ammo racks, all on the right side. they go from about a foot (in game scale) in front of the turret to about a foot behind the turret. You have to hit above the track otherwise the track will take the hit, but the hull armor there is crap, like 80mm and it's flat. Just aim for any spot below the turret and above the track. The turret is way easier to hit, but chances are you'll just bounce the shot until you get into the "pens everything" guns like a BL-9 or L/68 - at which point you can just shoot it wherever. The back of the turret is pretty flat and only has like 60-70 armor so if you can get a square shot there you have a pretty good chance of racking them.

The bad news is that the second upgrade eveyone with a 59 buys is a wet ammo rack because otherwise you get one shot killed about every-other match.

TLDR: Shoot them in the side below the turret and above the track or anywhere in the back. Shooting the turret or front is probably just going to bounce until your gun is big enough to pen anything.

[Mortriden]

So where is the best way to shoot a 59?  I have a tier VI medium and a TD and they just laugh at me, kill me, and fly on by. 

They have Ammo racks all over the place. The turret ammo racks go from about 2:00 to about 8:30 looking down on the turret with the gun being 12:00. So the entire back of the turret and the right side of the turret from about halfway on the front grab handle on back. The hull also has 3 ammo racks, all on the right side. they go from about a foot (in game scale) in front of the turret to about a foot behind the turret. You have to hit above the track otherwise the track will take the hit, but the hull armor there is crap, like 80mm and it's flat. Just aim for any spot below the turret and above the track. The turret is way easier to hit, but chances are you'll just bounce the shot until you get into the "pens everything" guns like a BL-9 or L/68 - at which point you can just shoot it wherever. The back of the turret is pretty flat and only has like 60-70 armor so if you can get a square shot there you have a pretty good chance of racking them.

The bad news is that the second upgrade eveyone with a 59 buys is a wet ammo rack because otherwise you get one shot killed about every-other match.

TLDR: Shoot them in the side below the turret and above the track or anywhere in the back. Shooting the turret or front is probably just going to bounce until your gun is big enough to pen anything.

This is good advice.  I own one of these, and the way to kill me is track, then get to the sides.  The tracks are quite weak and if you can stop the tank, it's dead.  If you are forced to fire from the front; aim for the headlight, lower glacis (if you are at med-long range), last resort try to aim for the commander's view-ports (but these are really hard to hit).

If you can damage the ammo rack or the engine, you kill this tank.  His weapons are speed and tough frontal armor; for his Tier the gun is quite weak.

[Brennik]

Yea, the upper half of the upper plate is actually pretty thin and the slope is more manageable there, unless they're heavily angled. If you're up close, commander's hatch is another good place.

[Brolan]

Special offer I found out about, buy a back issue of Armchair General for $9.95 and get a bunch of WoT stuff worth about $20. 

This issue of Armchair General includes a special bonus DVD containing the free-to-play game World of Tanks. It also comes complete with a promo code which gives new and existing players the following in-game specials; One month premium account, 750 in-game gold, the premium tank PzKpfw 38H735 (f), and a free garage slot. If purchased separately these bonus items would be worth approx. 4300 gold (~US$20.00). Only valid on NA server cluster. Code expires March 01, 2012

http://historynetshop.com/ag1201.html

[angry.bob]

The PzKpfw 38H735 (f) is about equivalent to a Maus in most of the matches it's put in and is well worth getting by itself. They're also taking it out of the store next patch since they've added the French line. This is a deal worth hunting down a copy of AG for.