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Reply #1680 on: November 21, 2011, 02:10:49 PM

It may technically be balanced but it certainly isn't fun when there are 4+ arty per side. Especially in the upper tier matches. At least in lower tiers you are usually fast enough to out drive it but for most high tier heavies evasive maneuvers are impossible.

It's the same reason I don't enjoy clan wars and company battles. It feels like you spend the whole match spotting for your arty from concealed positions and hoping not to get nailed by the enemies instead of fighting with your tank.

Arty is the heavy tank counter.

Counting arty shots in CW and CB is common.  Move when they are reloading.  One or zero Arty are effective lineups on some maps (typicaly cities) for CW.

Dislike arty so much play a Tier 5 Light which is the arty counter.

WoT without arty would be one less dimentional and really out of balance if it was just light, medium, tank destroyer and heavy.

I get that games have features and content that occur as not fun for people.

For me Tier 9 and 10 are not fun for pub matches so I do not do them.
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Reply #1681 on: November 21, 2011, 07:00:45 PM

I do play t5 lights and yes it's just to kill arty, love them. Heart

I never said to get rid of arty, notice I said I don't like 4+ per side. Yes I do enjoy matches w/o arty more even when playing my t5 lights but I understand why arty is in the game and how it functions. I disagree it makes the game less dimensional when there are no arty. I could argue that having a bunch of arty on each team actually makes it less dimensional as you're very limited on what you can do, specially if you're in a heavy. I think 2 or 3 arty per side isn't that big of deal , yes you have to be aware of the arty but I feel you can still play your tank.

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Reply #1682 on: November 21, 2011, 07:06:53 PM

I'd sign a three arty max per side petition.

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Reply #1683 on: November 22, 2011, 08:38:28 AM

Ya, its not a balance issue, its a gameplay issue. Its tiresome to see 4 arties per side. Two or three makes it fun, more than that its just about the arty. The rest of the tanks are just speedbumps and the entire game is about spotting, not about usual tank play.

Also, its entirely unbalanced to have even just one super light tier 5 tank on one side, and not the other. It doesn't take particularly awesome skill to scout out the whole other side with your super light, and that gives the entire game away.

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Reply #1684 on: November 22, 2011, 10:03:36 AM

I officially hate you all. 

While this game does have its imperfections, it really scratches my pvp itch well.  It's tactical enough that it's not entirely twitch... which is great for an old man.  I've been playing quite a bit the last few days and it's becoming a full-blown addiction.  I should have a tier 6 german Medium soon and am enjoying my tier 5 TD quite a bit.  I'm almost to the KV in the russian line, but it looks so sluggish that I don't know if I will go after it right away.  I'm finding that I'm not much of a slugger and prefer to either snipe or hit-and-run. 

Is it me, or is there a big jump from tier 5 to tier 6 in terms of armor and hps? 

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Reply #1685 on: November 22, 2011, 10:20:39 AM

Generally yes. But your KV will blow up in two-three hits.

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Reply #1686 on: November 22, 2011, 05:43:45 PM

Just be warned, the KV is a terrible tank.
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Reply #1687 on: November 22, 2011, 07:13:11 PM

Gods I love my KV.

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Reply #1688 on: November 22, 2011, 11:11:35 PM

Gods I love my KV.

So true - with derp gun its fuckin funtasticc - its a real definition of glass cannon.
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Reply #1689 on: November 23, 2011, 06:36:53 AM

KV is a fun tank & not a bad earner once you figure out how to play it.

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Reply #1690 on: November 23, 2011, 03:07:12 PM

Woo, double income all weekend on the E8 Patton I just bought a few days ago.  Time to make back the cash I spent!

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Reply #1691 on: December 09, 2011, 08:03:56 PM

Theres a promo code you can get from a German site that gives you a free T-127 (Tier 3 Soviet light tank).  I tired it myself and it works.  As well, I've heard that you can get multiple codes and tanks by using a different email address when you enter at the German site.  So you can sell the tank for credits and keep the garage slot.  That may be fixed shortly but for now it seems to work.  To get the code, click on the picture then submit your email address.  To use the code, go the WoT website, log in, click on your account name (top right corner) then use the code in the "Enter Bonus Code" spot.  Profit.

http://www.computerbild.de/gutscheinaktionen/cbs-codes-Worlds-of-tanks-6895480.html
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Reply #1692 on: December 09, 2011, 08:53:59 PM

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Reply #1693 on: December 10, 2011, 03:22:14 AM

Nice one, cheers Ginaz! All worked for me. Spent the 750g on garage slots, which are half price atm!  awesome, for real  Plus my boxed copy just arrived which is another 2000 gold and premium tank and 7 days premium!

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Reply #1694 on: December 10, 2011, 06:12:11 AM

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Reply #1695 on: December 10, 2011, 12:12:35 PM

Looks like it was lifted verbatim from http://mmohuts.com/review/world-of-tanks. So definitely bot.

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Reply #1696 on: December 10, 2011, 09:00:37 PM

Thanks for the free tank code, it worked for me.
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Reply #1697 on: December 11, 2011, 08:07:57 AM

Free tank and slot. Oh yes thank you. I can't figure out the ign thing though.

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Reply #1698 on: December 11, 2011, 11:33:03 AM

Free tank and slot. Oh yes thank you. I can't figure out the ign thing though.

You create an account at IGN using the option to have a 7 day free trial.  You'll have to enter a credit card number but you can cancel immediately after you create your account without having to pay.  You then have to go to Fileplanet to get the code.  I don't know if it still works but it did for me last Friday night.  Use the URL below to get to Fileplanet.

http://www.fileplanet.com/betas/world-of-tanks/index.aspx
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Reply #1699 on: December 11, 2011, 07:43:21 PM

I just did them both, both still worked - including selling the t-127 and getting a second one with a different email.

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Reply #1700 on: December 12, 2011, 01:19:01 AM

I just did them both, both still worked - including selling the t-127 and getting a second one with a different email.

If you will register two different bonus-codes with t-127 at once - you will get only one tank but two days of premium.
If you will register one, login, delete t-127, logout, register second ... you will be 170.000 credits richer.

There is a limit of tanks you can sell in one day  Ohhhhh, I see.


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Reply #1701 on: December 12, 2011, 07:34:20 AM

I have to confess that the MM is starting to wear on me.  I've got two tier VI tanks and am constantly placed in battles with Tier VIII and IX's that I can't even penetrate the armor of.  HE doesn't seem to do much either and my tank is maxxed out with the best penetrating gun.  I feel like a kid with a bb gun in a warzone.

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Reply #1702 on: December 12, 2011, 10:06:03 AM


I wonder if that's actually intentional. The feeling of "If I just grind / pay some more I'll be the big fish in this pond" drives people up the tiers, which is also the point where it's harder to play for free and they're capable of being involved in the end-game content.


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Reply #1703 on: December 12, 2011, 10:56:39 AM

They should add lower tier clan wars because fuck grinding a T9-10 just to enjoy some persistent gameplay.
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Reply #1704 on: December 12, 2011, 11:56:38 AM

Isn't exactly that coming in the next patch?

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Reply #1705 on: December 12, 2011, 12:06:12 PM

Tiered company battles are coming in the next patch.  They have said that they have no intention of introducing tiered clan wars battles at any point.  There are no MM changes for the next patch but they will be cutting the earning power of all higher tier arty pieces, I guess in the hope that if they less profitable they will be played less which will result in fewer arty dominated pug matches. 
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Reply #1706 on: December 12, 2011, 01:00:25 PM

Ah OK, I misunderstood the company battles part.

Less arty would be a good thing, no doubt.

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Reply #1707 on: December 16, 2011, 10:27:39 AM

The lower tier Company battles are great. You never have to see or touch anything above tier 8 again. I went from "I can't stand doing doubles on all these goddamn tanks" to "Oh boy, I wonder which of my tanks I get to play with next".

Tier 10 company battles are still bad though. It's basically clan wars with random maps aka not fun.
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Reply #1708 on: December 16, 2011, 02:58:10 PM

Is it a mess of SU-85s?

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Reply #1709 on: December 29, 2011, 01:09:16 PM


I should get back to nature, too.  You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer.  Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached.  Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe

I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa

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Reply #1710 on: December 29, 2011, 04:21:31 PM


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Reply #1711 on: December 29, 2011, 08:01:16 PM

That's a pretty accurate representation of what matchmaker has been doing: Königstiger vs Matilda, T95 vs Königstiger or E75? E50? Eh.

Also, anyone else having a hard time earning credits since 7.0?

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Reply #1712 on: December 29, 2011, 10:12:00 PM

Have only played for a few days since 7.0 came out, because SWTOR also came out. I was making less money though, definitely. I was guessing it was because of the changes to armour and penetration - I was getting WAY more shots bounced, thus less damage done, thus less credits.

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Reply #1713 on: December 30, 2011, 05:23:30 AM

HE and Artillery credit gain got nerfed.
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Reply #1714 on: December 30, 2011, 09:07:39 AM

Its probably the HE. HE doesn't work as it used to; its actually more 'realistic' now, as explained in this lengthy and confusing forum post here:

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/72978-new-he-mechanics-explained-using-crude-illustrations/

The thumbnail summary is that HE's radius explosion will now only penetrate sectors of armor that are in the direct line of propagation from the middle of the HE shell explosion, whereas before anything within the area of the blast was affected.

Ironically, this means that in some very select situations, an HE shell from a tier nine heavy or TD will do more damage than an actual AP round, but on the whole, unless you've studied the hull thickness schematics for each tank, and then had the opportunity to land a shot in a very very narrow region, its best to stick to AP, unless you have zero chance of penetration.

That's probably the main reason you're seeing less money in the bank. Your Panther II can no longer splash a Maus for a crit hit with ease, so you're not getting cash for that.

Do I like it? Not at all. Do I see why they did it? Sure; tank nerd developers run amok with notions of realism over game play.

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