PS3

[Nerf]

I haven't had any problem with downloading while media servers are enabled on either PS3 (one first gen ps2 BC, another new as of a month ago), so it might just be a rare issue.  That said, the media server thing fucking rocks, being able to watch your entire downloaded library on the bigass HDTV without having to run any wires anywhere is the shit.

[Tannhauser]

Will a wireless mouse work with a PS3 thru a USB connection?  I know they have wireless keyboards.

[Mrbloodworth]

Will a wireless mouse work with a PS3 thru a USB connection?  I know they have wireless keyboards.

Should. Do not see why it would not.

[Ard]

A mouse would work if there was any software/games on the PS3 that supported a mouse.  Games have to be made to specifically accept that input vs a controller, and I don't know of any for the ps3 that do.  All the fake mouse controllers (the splitfish and whatnot) for the ps3 do it by pretending to be the controller and using the mouse as joystick input.

[Trippy]

A mouse would work if there was any software/games on the PS3 that supported a mouse.  Games have to be made to specifically accept that input vs a controller, and I don't know of any for the ps3 that do.  All the fake mouse controllers (the splitfish and whatnot) for the ps3 do it by pretending to be the controller and using the mouse as joystick input.

Unreal Engine 3 supports mouse/keyboard input on the PS3 and UT3 on PS3 allows for such. Dunno about other UE3 engine games.

[Mrbloodworth]

Of course the game/software has to support it. But it will work and the PS3 will see it. You can use it for the browser if you want.

[Hayduke]

Which begs the question, WTF does enabling media severs for the PS3 even mean?

Lets you see media servers on your network?  I use PlayOn for Hulu and Netflix (not sure Hulu still works).  And ps3mediaserver for ripped shit.  I don't keep media files on my PS3 at all unless it's mp3s for custom soundtracks.

[CaptainNapkin]

As a gamefly renter... I'm really beginning to dislike how the PS3 does game updates. Yet another game arrives today, plop it in to get a message that it needs an update. On my Xbox that's usually under a minute... on PS3 it usually goes like it's going as I type this... 608meg update and You cannot perform a background download of this content. 12 minute download is the ETA and when it's done 10 bucks says itll tell me it now needs to be installed which will be another few minutes.

Instant gratification this thing is not.

[schild]

I can't think of many games with updates like that. What'd you rent? Warhawk? SOCOM?

[CaptainNapkin]

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift. That probably added to the frustration, it's just an arcade racer, I just wanted to jump in and play. By your comment I have hope it's not truly the norm and just the luck of the draw on the games I've picked to date. Coupled with my severe gaming ADD it's a lot of updatin' and installin' I do.

[Hawkbit]

Burnout Paradise has a crapload of install as well.  I recently got halfway through reinstalling it, then realized I didn't want to play the game that badly to begin with.

[Azazel]

gug. I'll set Motorstorm PR up to download the update tonight then so when I get around to playing it, I'll be able to actually do so...

 

[MisterNoisy]

The worst offender I've run into yet is Hot Shots Golf.  The last time I put the disc in, it performed a huge update on boot, then after I restarted it to play it ran another huge update when I tried to go online.  Total time was something like an hour or so.

[BitWarrior]

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift. That probably added to the frustration, it's just an arcade racer, I just wanted to jump in and play. By your comment I have hope it's not truly the norm and just the luck of the draw on the games I've picked to date. Coupled with my severe gaming ADD it's a lot of updatin' and installin' I do.

By the sounds of it you don't want games to be supported after release?

If you hate updating so much, the solution is simple - disable the PS3's network interface. No updates, just plop in the disc and play. No trophies either, but I assume you don't care about them being you're only renting.

[Yegolev]

I find the "horribly long update" games to be in the minority, but still it is bothersome when I don't know what it is fixing and can only concentrate on the little bar.

Of course, I play quite a few PS2 games.

[fuser]

GT5:Prologue is brutal also, quite a few patches to download.

I don't mind them as i'll wander off to do other things but its the patches that require a download, install, reboot, and start the whole process again. The audio queue's keep messing me up as its not one release to current patch but a bunch of incremental crap (it was either LBP/GT5:P or burnout).

[Azazel]

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift. That probably added to the frustration, it's just an arcade racer, I just wanted to jump in and play. By your comment I have hope it's not truly the norm and just the luck of the draw on the games I've picked to date. Coupled with my severe gaming ADD it's a lot of updatin' and installin' I do.

By the sounds of it you don't want games to be supported after release?

If you hate updating so much, the solution is simple - disable the PS3's network interface. No updates, just plop in the disc and play. No trophies either, but I assume you don't care about them being you're only renting.

What's the deal with trophies anyway? I do put in a little extra to 360 games to achievement whore at times, but not serious 100% catass effort. PS3/Trophies don't have or add to a gamerscore, and while I went into my "house" once, I couldnt see anything in there aside from an opportunity to flush real money for virtual items like tshirts and desks via microtrans (which the 360 is now following).

But yeah, where are they and how can I see them? I guess they seem even more useless than achievements.

[CaptainNapkin]

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift. That probably added to the frustration, it's just an arcade racer, I just wanted to jump in and play. By your comment I have hope it's not truly the norm and just the luck of the draw on the games I've picked to date. Coupled with my severe gaming ADD it's a lot of updatin' and installin' I do.

By the sounds of it you don't want games to be supported after release?

If you hate updating so much, the solution is simple - disable the PS3's network interface. No updates, just plop in the disc and play. No trophies either, but I assume you don't care about them being you're only renting.

Actually, yeah, I'd prefer games were released in perfect playable condition without anything that requires "support". But a world where I download a patch only because I'm buying some additional content or the like is an alternate reality that will never exist. But I still would prefer it yes. And it's not that I hate updating, it's just that on PS3 it seems cumbersome and time consuming compared to Xbox 360 where I often read about  an update after the fact and think to myself "oh yeah, I think I did notice an update happen last time I launched." I just think it could be done better, at least in the background. I usually flip on the 360 for quick 1943 round or 3 while I wait, where if they'd pushed the updates to the background I'd probably stay on the PS3 and dick around in their store.

And I don't really get the trophies either. I see the message when I earn them but I must be missing the point, there's nothing to them that makes me want to earn more. The 360 always has that little number flashing at me reminding me it wants to grow.

[Kageh]

They are a vanity thing. They are ranked in bronze, silver, gold and platinum, with platinum being the "You've got all trophies for this game" trophy and they are visible on your psn ID, something like this:



So you can basically brag about how many gold and platinum trophies you have earned. Which, in my case, is zero! 

[Yegolev]

The only real difference between a Trophy and an Achievement is that one does not carry a point value, and there is no cumulative numerical score.  You can see a summary in your profile, over on the right side of the XMB, otherwise you can go up a couple of icons in the Game column to the Trophy icon and see each of your games and a completion percentage.  Really, same thing but missing the points.

The only reason I was interested in Home at all was the idea that I could get some sort of decorative item which indicated my successes; trophies, if you will.

[Azazel]

The only real difference between a Trophy and an Achievement is that one does not carry a point value, and there is no cumulative numerical score.  You can see a summary in your profile, over on the right side of the XMB, otherwise you can go up a couple of icons in the Game column to the Trophy icon and see each of your games and a completion percentage.  Really, same thing but missing the points.

The only reason I was interested in Home at all was the idea that I could get some sort of decorative item which indicated my successes; trophies, if you will.

Um, yea. I was kind of expecting to see my trophies in my house. Silly me.

[Lounge]

The only real difference between a Trophy and an Achievement is that one does not carry a point value, and there is no cumulative numerical score.  You can see a summary in your profile, over on the right side of the XMB, otherwise you can go up a couple of icons in the Game column to the Trophy icon and see each of your games and a completion percentage.  Really, same thing but missing the points.

The only reason I was interested in Home at all was the idea that I could get some sort of decorative item which indicated my successes; trophies, if you will.

There is a cumulative level based on the number of trophies.  I think its pretty much as good as a score.  The difference as I see it is how prominent that score is displayed.  On Live it's in your face everywhere whereas on PSN you have to dig into their profile a bit to see it.  At this point though aren't most people over trophies/achievements?  I'm certainly past the point where I go out of my way to get them.

[Yegolev]

I'm a whore for achievements/trophies, cumulative score or not.  Slightly irritated that I can't decorate my apartment with them.

[Azazel]

I don't knock myself out over getting 100 of every doohickey, but I do like the little ding-grats of getting them. And searching out the achievements often goes along with getting various unlocks in some games as well.

Trophies are more like "wut?"

[Velorath]

Yeah, I agree that trophies just don't have the same appeal as achievements, which is kinda sad since all Sony had to do was just copy MS.  Instead they came up with that whole thing about being able to display your trophies in Home, which presumably got shit-canned when they realized that nobody gives a shit about Home.

[Yegolev]

Which is stupid because that's the only reason to give a shit about Home.

[Le0]

I'm about to buy meself a PS3 Slim and I was wondering something, I'm from Switzerland and over here we speak French / German / Italian (National languages) So of course when registering with PSN Switzerland I had only these 3 options as langagues.

The thing is I like playing my games in "VO" which is most of the time English and my question is this, the language in games is it dependant on the language of your console or from the disc you buy? Also is there any possibilities for me to set the language of my console to be english and not french?

[Kageh]

Language can be set somewhere in the system settings, I changed mine to english there as I live in Austria and it came with default language german.

I *think* the games default to your PS3 language settings, and for multi-lingual games you can usually set the language manually somewhere too. So far, I managed to play all my PS3 games in english. I also usually buy them at play.com or amazon.co.uk, because they are way cheaper there than at the local retailers.

[Velorath]

Which is stupid because that's the only reason to give a shit about Home.

I doubt most people would have given a shit about it anyway.  I barely look at peoples' achievements when they have their gamertags linked in their sigs, so I can't picture myself ever going out of my way to visit someone's trophy room.

[Le0]

Language can be set somewhere in the system settings, I changed mine to english there as I live in Austria and it came with default language german.

I *think* the games default to your PS3 language settings, and for multi-lingual games you can usually set the language manually somewhere too. So far, I managed to play all my PS3 games in english. I also usually buy them at play.com or amazon.co.uk, because they are way cheaper there than at the local retailers.

Cool thanks, glad to hear it, I'll mostly order my games thru these sites as well so its no prob.

One more thing, do you own Demon's Souls? If so is it playable on MP from Europe or is it laggy as hell or something? I have the US version on its way and I'm wondering.

[Kageh]

My US version is on the way as well, but I own the asian one and MP is perfectly fine so far. I think the US version won't be very different (I think) because MP is hosted on one of the PS3s from the participating players and the blue ghosts are just sync'ing with the body form player who plays host. The "central servers" probably only work as hubs for matchmaking and distributing the message notes on the ground.

[Trippy]

Uncharted 2 stuff moved to original thread:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=15444.0

[Yegolev]

Which is stupid because that's the only reason to give a shit about Home.

I doubt most people would have given a shit about it anyway.  I barely look at peoples' achievements when they have their gamertags linked in their sigs, so I can't picture myself ever going out of my way to visit someone's trophy room.

Oh, I don't care about other people's achievements or trophies.  Well, sometimes I do the thing where you compare yours to your friend's, but even that is very rare.  No, it is just for my own pleasure.  I'm a collector.

Otherwise I agree.

[Azazel]

This.

[fuser]

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