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on: April 25, 2009, 03:38:15 AM

I don't think this has been brought up yet, so here goes...

NASA researches predict catastrophic solar storms affecting earths power grids in 2012... yeah, the same year the Mayan astronomers predicted the catastrophic start of a new age. I was aware of how solar storms could lead to some power outages, but 1 to 2 trillion dollar worth of damages for the US alone? ouch!

link here (Wired article) http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/2012storms.html


Or is this another crackpot pet theory by some vested intrests?


Edit: ok, either the spell checker does'nt do titles, or I need to find out what prohecies means.
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Reply #1 on: April 25, 2009, 04:12:43 AM

Hrmmm...  I need to invent a new doomsday scenario so when nothing happens in 2012 we've all got something to be scared about again. 
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Reply #2 on: April 25, 2009, 04:27:07 AM


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Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 04:33:37 AM

Hrmmm...  I need to invent a new doomsday scenario so when nothing happens in 2012 we've all got something to be scared about again. 

Why bother? People come up with the goddamn things at least twice a year.
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Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 06:33:35 AM

... and all because a Mayan went, "Fuck it, I'm going home now. Going to 2012 was just overkill anyway".

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Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 03:17:03 AM

They actually run out of room on the standard long count calendar in 4772 AD. That's their Y2K-like time, where they would have had to change the format to add another digit. The Mayans used a date record that primarily used base 20 numbers. There is no reason to think (no record to indicate) that the largest field position was base 14, and every reason not to. The Mayans had a larger unit called the piktun which was described as twenty bak'tun - and the bak'tun is the most significant dgit in the long count. The event in 2012 is the change of the bak'tun digit which mesoamericans celebrated much as we do a millennium. They didn't predict the end of the world or another catastrophic event on any of these dates. They left that up to the drug addled cosmic kids from California in the 1950s and 1960s.

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Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 05:28:08 AM

Solar activity is cyclic and solar flares have caused blackouts and communications interruptions before.

Ohhh, they're saying that a few hours without cell phones and the world will collapse?  Uh, yeah, ok.

Wired, about 10 years ago, was a semi-decent magazine, it's too bad they've dropped to the level of the Enquirer.

edit: I went and read some of that NASA article, the wired reporter is an idiot.
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Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 06:52:27 AM


Wired, about 10 years ago, was a semi-decent magazine, it's too bad they've dropped to the level of the Enquirer.

I got my wife an Ipod touch for xmas and it came along with a year sub to Wired.  It's a terrible magazine.  We're two issues in and I think from here on out I'm going to throw them right into the recycle bin. 
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Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 11:00:57 PM

Wired, about 10 years ago, was a semi-decent magazine, it's too bad they've dropped to the level of the Enquirer.

edit: I went and read some of that NASA article, the wired reporter is an idiot.


The Wired online magazine laid off most of its staff and is basically being run by a skeleton staff for now, apparently they just realized that their business model was not sustainable  awesome, for real
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Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 06:37:53 AM

No mention yet of the earth + sun + galactic center being in direct alignment on 12/21/2012? seems to be a core topic on the history channel doomsday documentary.  Or the newly found addition to Nostradamus's body of work. 

Apparently the history channel is now the prophecy channel.
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Reply #10 on: April 27, 2009, 06:44:59 AM

Oh, the History Channel found new Nostradamus prophecies about the WTC and the end of the world.

In 2009.

Seems odd.. but the History Channel and the NYPost say it's true.

Well, I'm certainly quite frightened. Packing my bags for Mars asap.


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Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 07:01:58 AM


Well, I'm certainly quite frightened. Packing my bags for Mars asap.


No use, that's where the lizard people live.

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Reply #12 on: April 27, 2009, 07:12:03 AM

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Reply #13 on: April 27, 2009, 07:16:56 AM


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Reply #14 on: April 27, 2009, 07:19:31 AM

Yes, but can you quote the History Channel on this matter?

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Reply #15 on: April 27, 2009, 07:20:24 AM

I'm much rather like in a Universe where John Carter's Mars was the real Mars.

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Reply #16 on: April 27, 2009, 07:22:04 AM

Oh, by the way.


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Reply #17 on: April 27, 2009, 07:30:55 AM

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Reply #18 on: April 27, 2009, 07:43:26 AM

Why the hate on Wired? I think that their articles are pretty fun to read.
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Reply #19 on: April 27, 2009, 07:50:29 AM

I watched this documentary about a cult a few months and it was so amazing how stupid people can be. It was about this christian cult whose leader predicted the end of the world on a date that passed. The documentary was so sad and disturbing. They go back to the compound a few weeks after the day of doom was over and the amount of cognitive dissonance is almost physically visible.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/videos/feeds/cv-seo/Full-Episodes/Inside/Inside-a-Cult-1.html

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Reply #20 on: April 27, 2009, 07:56:05 AM

Didn't he realize that you always order your cult to mass suicide on the day of the apocalypse?  What a newb!
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Reply #21 on: April 27, 2009, 07:57:31 AM

Oh, the History Channel found new Nostradamus prophecies about the WTC and the end of the world.

In 2009.

Seems odd.. but the History Channel and the NYPost say it's true.

Well, I'm certainly quite frightened. Packing my bags for Mars asap.

History Channel has been peddling pseudo-science superstition a long time now, from Nostradamus to conspiricy theories to Eastern mysticism to ghosts to "strange creature" shows.

Last week, they had a two hour docu-whatsis on the Ancient Astronaut/Chariots of the Gods folks,  that tried to present both sides relatively evenly.  Usually I can watch that stuff for a laugh, but I was honestly pissed after about an hour or so since the Ancient Astonaut theories have been thoroughly debunked root and branch.
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Reply #22 on: April 27, 2009, 07:58:15 AM

I watched this documentary about a cult a few months and it was so amazing how stupid people can be. It was about this christian cult whose leader predicted the end of the world on a date that passed.

The trick is to pick a date far enough in the future, so you don't look stupid.

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Reply #23 on: April 27, 2009, 08:09:05 AM

History Channel has been peddling pseudo-science superstition a long time now, from Nostradamus to conspiricy theories to Eastern mysticism to ghosts to "strange creature" shows.

Last week, they had a two hour docu-whatsis on the Ancient Astronaut/Chariots of the Gods folks,  that tried to present both sides relatively evenly.  Usually I can watch that stuff for a laugh, but I was honestly pissed after about an hour or so since the Ancient Astonaut theories have been thoroughly debunked root and branch.

I'm something of a conspiracy theory fetishist. I don't subscribe to any but I do find them endlessly entertaining to look into. The best part about the Ancient Astronaut stuff was when Erich von Daniken wrote a book describing in some detail how he'd been to a cave in South America and seen concrete proof of the AA theory. Unfortunately the guide who apparently took him there denied categorically that von Daniken had ever been near the place. Rather than insist that he had and that the guide was lying, Erich relied on the rather novel defence that although he hadn't actually been there and, had in fact made the whole episode up, it in no way invalidated the rest of his work.

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Reply #24 on: April 27, 2009, 08:13:58 AM

I remember when the History channel had all sorts of interesting shows to watch. Now it is complete bullshit. 4 fucking hours of "who would win" between a spartan warrior and an Indian. Which wouldn't be that bad except they don't use anything resembling critical thinking in the comparisons. Ghost Hunters especially makes me want to stab somebody.
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Reply #25 on: April 27, 2009, 08:18:53 AM

I remember when the History channel had all sorts of interesting shows to watch. Now it is complete bullshit. 4 fucking hours of "who would win" between a spartan warrior and an Indian. Which wouldn't be that bad except they don't use anything resembling critical thinking in the comparisons. Ghost Hunters especially makes me want to stab somebody.

Huh?  Neither of those shows are on History.
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Reply #26 on: April 27, 2009, 08:24:41 AM

I hate apocalypses (real and imagined).


Why the hate on Wired? I think that their articles are pretty fun to read.


Wired should be hated just for the word Technorati. Fuck them.

[edit] History Channel peddles that shit because they know that Americans are stupid. Fuck Americans too.

Geez, feelin the hate today.
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Reply #27 on: April 27, 2009, 08:29:24 AM

I hate apocalypses (real and imagined).

Yes, especially the real apocalypses.  Which are, of course, a bitch.

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Reply #28 on: April 27, 2009, 08:31:14 AM

Huh?  Neither of those shows are on History.

Ghost hunters is not. The who would win battle deal is show most certainly is. Its not even the sole show of that type on the history channel.

Edit: I am wrong I seem to be clumping together channels near the History Channel. How embarrassing  why so serious?
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Reply #29 on: April 27, 2009, 08:35:31 AM

Huh?  Neither of those shows are on History.

Ghost hunters is not. The who would win battle deal is show most certainly is. Its not even the sole show of that type on the history channel.

um apache vs gladiator was on spike TV, you are thinking of the show "Warriors" on the History channel which isn't the same thing.  Your point should have been focused around "UFO Hunters" and "Monsterquest".
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Reply #30 on: April 27, 2009, 08:38:32 AM

History Channel must have run out its supply of free Nazi footage. They've been running entirely too much shit on "Sins the Bible Says Are REALLY REALLY BAD, mmmKKK?" and "Shit that Would Call You If It Was Real!"

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Reply #31 on: April 27, 2009, 09:17:30 AM

Huh?  Neither of those shows are on History.

Ghost hunters is not. The who would win battle deal is show most certainly is. Its not even the sole show of that type on the history channel.

um apache vs gladiator was on spike TV, you are thinking of the show "Warriors" on the History channel which isn't the same thing.  Your point should have been focused around "UFO Hunters" and "Monsterquest".

What does that shit even have to do with history in the first place?
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Reply #32 on: April 27, 2009, 09:18:25 AM

Huh?  Neither of those shows are on History.

Ghost hunters is not. The who would win battle deal is show most certainly is. Its not even the sole show of that type on the history channel.

um apache vs gladiator was on spike TV, you are thinking of the show "Warriors" on the History channel which isn't the same thing.  Your point should have been focused around "UFO Hunters" and "Monsterquest".

What does that shit even have to do with history in the first place?
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I remember when the History channel had all sorts of interesting shows to watch. Now it is complete bullshit.
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Reply #33 on: April 27, 2009, 09:58:40 AM

They could start airing Star Trek and Indiana Jones movies etc if they've run out of footage of people shooting Nazis.

Actually, you can't ever run out of footage of people shooting Nazis. That's not possible.

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Reply #34 on: April 27, 2009, 09:58:51 AM

In the break room at work one day I was able to catch a show on the history channel that was actually pretty interesting, focused around the history of beer.  So, I guess it isn't always chariots of the gods and prophecies about how we are totally fucked.

Modern Marvels, History versus Hollywood, and Mail Call are some decent history channel shows.  Do they still show any of them?
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