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Draegan
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Reply #1960 on: September 19, 2009, 12:38:45 PM

It's also a design flaw to have completely unbalanced serves for a PVP game.

It has it's pros and cons.

According to the status page, every server is open for each side.
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Reply #1961 on: September 19, 2009, 12:39:58 PM

Meet Lefteye Falconeer 2009


I'd love to see your characters too.

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Reply #1962 on: September 19, 2009, 12:50:36 PM

Why did you make a man with pig tails?
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Reply #1963 on: September 19, 2009, 12:53:08 PM

That's a flaw the design, not the players fault.  Offering two sides then not letting players choose one is bad, especially if it splits apart friends and guilds because some of them couldn't choose.

Honestly, this is a temporary complaint. The effects of not being able to immediately roll the faction of your choice on the server of your choice only last until someone makes another character on the opposite side.

However, in a PvP centric endgame, the effects of *not* having such a system in place are permanent. To illustrate the extremes which can be created, upon WoW's lauch I rolled on Lightbringer, and once character counting systems were in place it was revealed the server had a 7:1 ratio of Alliance to Horde. Suffice to say, upon release of the Honor System, the Crossroads and nearly even Orgrimmar itself was basically Alliance territory. Battlegrounds up until cross server was introduced were notoriously 1 sided, Alliance would roll Horde constantly, as for every end game raiding Horde guild there were likely 7 Alliance counterparts. To this day, Lightbringer only has 1 true end game raiding Horde guild, while alliance has dozens.

If you potentially introduce that degree of imbalance into a game with a large PvP focus...you're not going to have a handful of complainers wanting to roll characters, you're going to have entire factions outright leaving the game.

Temporary pain now, long term gain in the future. You seem bitter that you are not able to create your pre-select character at this precise moment in time, but you honestly need to look at the big picture.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.
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Reply #1964 on: September 19, 2009, 01:00:50 PM

Why did you make a man with pig tails?

*glare*

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Reply #1965 on: September 19, 2009, 01:07:28 PM

Azphel is open for both races right now. Just FYI.
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Reply #1966 on: September 19, 2009, 02:06:23 PM

My final server is looking to be Lumiel.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #1967 on: September 19, 2009, 04:36:16 PM

Think most servers are open to take more ATM since none say locked

North America
1. [West] Siel
2. [East] Israphel
3. [Oceanic] Nezekan
4. [East] Zikel
5. [West] Vaizel
6. [East] Triniel
7. [West] Kaisinel - Recommended!
8. [East] Lumiel
9. [West] Yustiel - Recommended!
10. [East] Marchutan - Recommended!
11. [West] Ariel
12. [East] Azphel


http://na.aiononline.com/en/news/preselection-server-status.html
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Reply #1968 on: September 19, 2009, 09:53:06 PM

Just to keep things straight, here's what I'm seeing:

Azphel:
Morfiend (Asmodian)
Draegan
Nonentity (Elyos)
amiable (Elyos)
Goons probably? (Elyos)

Siel:
Darniaq (Asmodian)

Israphel:
Darniaq (Elyos)

Zikel:
Goons, possibly?

Lumiel:
Lantyssa

Trinel:
Threash (Elyos)
Shatter (Asmodian)

Nezekan:
Tale (Asmodian)


Telemachus (EU):
IanC

Gorgos (EU):
Falconeer

Did I miss anyone?


edit: added/changed stuff up to 16:26 post, apologies for mistakes
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Reply #1969 on: September 19, 2009, 10:15:01 PM

I'll be on Nezekan with my Aussie guild (playing Asmodian) and probably so will other Aussies who post here.
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Reply #1970 on: September 20, 2009, 04:32:19 AM

My guild decided to roll elyos on triniel

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Reply #1971 on: September 20, 2009, 05:26:01 AM

My guild decided to roll elyos on triniel

Good cause im Asmo on Triniel :)
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Reply #1972 on: September 20, 2009, 07:18:46 AM

Just to keep things straight, here's what I'm seeing:

Azphel:
Morfiend (Asmodian?)
Draegan
Goons probably?

Siel:
Darniaq (Asmodian)

Israphel:
Darniaq (Elyos)

Zikel:
Nonentity

Lumiel:
Lantyssa

Telemachus (EU):
IanC

Somewhere in Europe:
Falconeer

Did I miss anyone?

I believe goons rolled on Zikel so Non updated and is rolling on Azpahel.
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Reply #1973 on: September 20, 2009, 07:56:05 AM

Not talking about balancing 51/49, but if it turns out that there is a huge 60/40 imbalance, then you simply have Asmodian players without an opponent... even with lock-outs.... or more properly, especially with lock-outs.

They should have made both Asmodian and Elyos evil and badass looking, and made the Balaur the good guys just trying to build up a vilage and etch out a living.  And also, make the Balaur voice-act sweet sweet tears of hurt when ganked by players. 
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Reply #1974 on: September 20, 2009, 08:45:28 AM

Goons are still on Azphel as Elyos.  Which is fine with me since I get to kill them.
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Reply #1975 on: September 20, 2009, 08:51:40 AM

This is probably a dumb question, but for the early start today, is that only for people who have the game downloaded and were given keys, or is there actually a physical box availible at a store to pick up ? (like EB-Canada's version of Gamestop).

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Reply #1976 on: September 20, 2009, 09:02:35 AM

I'm Lumiel/Elyos

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the early start today, is that only for people who have the game downloaded and were given keys

It's for preorders. I think, now that I contemplate, that it might be for all beta testers as well as I pre-ordered after getting into the beta, so I'm on a normal beta not a pre-order beta account.
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Reply #1977 on: September 20, 2009, 09:14:06 AM

I can't update my client from 1.0.whatever to 1.5.whatever.  I imagine the servers are hammered.  I can't even log onto the aion website to find out if I need to download a new client or what.

I don't really care that much - I would have cancelled my preorder if it was possible.  I'll try again later.
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Reply #1978 on: September 20, 2009, 10:01:31 AM

I can't update my client from 1.0.whatever to 1.5.whatever.  I imagine the servers are hammered.  I can't even log onto the aion website to find out if I need to download a new client or what.

I don't really care that much - I would have cancelled my preorder if it was possible.  I'll try again later.

Yeah their main page is down for me too, could be because its hammered or related to the fact its launching today and they had to suspend the pre-selection today as well...dunno
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Reply #1979 on: September 20, 2009, 11:21:44 AM

You can always find a torrent floating around.
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Reply #1980 on: September 20, 2009, 11:22:27 AM

The main page is up and has access to the server stats stuff, which includes population balances.

And seems to be really well done, I might add.
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Reply #1981 on: September 20, 2009, 11:41:24 AM

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Reply #1982 on: September 20, 2009, 12:07:35 PM

Morf and I are Elyos on Azphel

But that Captain's salami tray was tight, yo. You plump for the roast pork loin, dogg?

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Reply #1983 on: September 20, 2009, 12:14:59 PM

Actually, I am going Asmo.
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Reply #1984 on: September 20, 2009, 12:16:10 PM

We're sworn enemies, apparently.

But that Captain's salami tray was tight, yo. You plump for the roast pork loin, dogg?

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Reply #1985 on: September 20, 2009, 12:28:23 PM

We're sworn enemies, apparently.

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Reply #1986 on: September 20, 2009, 12:55:54 PM

I rolled Azphael Elyos as well.
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Reply #1987 on: September 20, 2009, 01:00:40 PM

34 minute queue on triniel.

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Reply #1988 on: September 20, 2009, 01:05:11 PM

34 minute queue on triniel.

Most inaccurate timer evah, i'm in now.

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Reply #1989 on: September 20, 2009, 01:31:21 PM

Wee, position 2012 of 2012 in the Azphel queue, which I guess is a step up from the previous "server full, try again plz"

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Reply #1990 on: September 20, 2009, 01:48:20 PM

Four hour 27 minute queue on Lumiel. 1820 queueing.

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Reply #1991 on: September 20, 2009, 01:49:24 PM

It was telling me the same but i got in almost instantly both times.  There's a shit ton of people everywhere.

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Reply #1992 on: September 20, 2009, 01:50:56 PM



having horrible flashbacks to another time...

this is also about the time when the servers drop off and everyone has to re-queue.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1993 on: September 20, 2009, 02:11:52 PM

3 hours queue for me in Gorgos EU. If there's a dealbreaker this is it. I don't know how could you guys tolerate the mess that was WoW back in the days.

I give them 5 days to fix this shit. 10 minutes queue after the first week and I am so out.

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Reply #1994 on: September 20, 2009, 02:14:33 PM

There's too many people IN the game as it is, every single channel is totally swamped.  Trying to do any quest that involves ground spawns is pointless atm.  They need to increase the number of channels to 20 or 30 to deal with this many people.

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