Aion (Open Beta, Launch Day Info too!)

[DLRiley]

"LoL, not a pvp focused game noob."

Aion is not a game PvE people can play. It doesn't even has your average PvE server, as soon as you hit level 20 you are fair game. Now I am sure a few die hard PvErs will tenaciously try to stick on, blinded by the shiny visuals of the top tier armours, but they will eventually convert to PvP or quit.

Wow are you interjecting what you really what Aion to be? In that case this game would last 3 months. Lets be honest about Aion please.

The evolution is that its at least not Mortal Online which insist on being pre-internet.  

That has fuckall to do with my question and is an excuse for you to get a hate hard on for some game nobody gives a shit about in a thread not dedicated to it.

Actually it does. For one Aion is appropriated for working, secondly Aion is appropriated for being familiar and not even in the "vaguely familiar" sense, and third Aion is appropriated because it has full servers which is quite important to the disenfranchise pvp crowd, Falc being our main example. Lets be honest the games around Aion advertise it more then Aion itself. Especially for the post WAR and AoC kids, what left for them to play? Go back to WoW? Lol, they will never admit that WoW collection of PVP servers is all there really is to open world pvp. UO? 1999. EvE? Spreadsheets and really not as pvp friendly as everyone says it is. Darkfall? Oh yes many people considered moving from WAR and AoC to darkfall and the game dashed their hopes and dreams. It was darwinism at work to watch people give their credit card info just to have 1/1000 of a chance to be one of the "lucky" ones to play Darkfall. What wait a few years months for Mortal Online? Pre-internet and only 10 people will play it anyway. FE? Aion on low set graphics looks better and probably runs on a windows 95. You can go down the list of mmo's, only when the community has to pay a sub for Aion will it really get the hate that it probably deserves. But as far as mmo's go and especially pvp mmo's, not being your competition before people start comparing you to WoW is an evolution in and of itself. That was at the very least 30% of WAR hype. At the very least the promise of full servers will get the locust hardcore pvp'ers coming to play.

[Falconeer]

"LoL, not a pvp focused game noob."

Aion is not a game PvE people can play. It doesn't even has your average PvE server, as soon as you hit level 20 you are fair game. Now I am sure a few die hard PvErs will tenaciously try to stick on, blinded by the shiny visuals of the top tier armours, but they will eventually convert to PvP or quit.

Wow are you interjecting what you really what Aion to be? In that case this game would last 3 months. Lets be honest about Aion please.

Yes. Outside of Asia, yes. Exactly like Lineage 2. Not as bad as L2, but it's the same story: massive success there, not so much here BECAUSE of the PvP focus and the passable PvE endgame. See? Honest.

[DLRiley]

Your assuming people actually got to the point where the pvp focus actually matters 

[Falconeer]

"Your" assuming you got to the point where you typing stuff actually matters 

[DLRiley]

My nonsensical typing matters about as equally as your pointless shrilling

[Musashi]

"LoL, not a pvp focused game noob."

Dear Musashi, Ignis Fatuus!

Fixed. 

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Actually, it's not even worth it at this point.

[rattran]

[Morfiend]

I lol'ed. Couldnt help myself.

[Falconeer]

"LoL, not a pvp focused game noob."

Dear Musashi, Ignis Fatuus!

Fixed. 

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Actually, it's not even worth it at this point.

Worst version of "lalala can't hear you" ever.
And what the fuck? Someone gave you toilet paper with Latin words on it? How pretentious is that? I am from Roma. Should I be impressed by you improperly quoting in my ancient language?

[Ixxit]

I pre-ordered this and played a bit in the closed betas and have  been trying to play since open beta without much luck.  Between the "unable to reach log in server" and random Game Guard issues "???xxx????xx?"  which for some reason have started cropping up I doubt I'll even bother with retail.

More importantly, despite the tremendous polish and the high framerates, the gameplay is completely insipid;  the gaming press made a big deal of how much money, time and effort was spent localizing the quest dialogue for western audiences, but it still comes accross as trite and meaningless as every other Korean mmo,  just more grammatically correct.

Combine that with bizarre Ryzomesque fraggle-rock mobs and an almost Lineage 2 pve grind, I'd say the most fun I've had was creating merrickesque monstrosities and hydrocephalic midgets with the character generator.

meh

[Draegan]

Do have to have these stupid arguments again?  Yeesh.

[Musashi]

Should I be impressed by you improperly quoting in my ancient language?

Yes.  However, you'd have to understand why I said it in order to be impressed.  But you do not.  I hear they don't speak Latin down your way anymore.  That could be why.  I'll help you out.  You're seeing things that aren't there.  You're making things sound better than they really are.  Perhaps I could sell you my Latin Toilet Roll.  Only used once. 

With that said, as long as you think they're there and that they're awesome, it's cool with me, bro.  Knock yourself out.  At this point, people have been given enough corroborating accounts to make up their own minds, and don't need me to rub your nose in the fact that your shilling is obviously a proxy for your MMO ennui, as was suggested earlier.  How many pretentious points do I get for going French?  Or is that full retard?  I think it is.  Oh well.  Anyway, I'll see you in six weeks when your boredom kicks in and reminds you that this game sucks too.

[Kail]

I pre-ordered this and played a bit in the closed betas and have  been trying to play since open beta without much luck.  Between the "unable to reach log in server" and random Game Guard issues "???xxx????xx?"  which for some reason have started cropping up I doubt I'll even bother with retail.

This.  Game looks nice, for the five minutes it lets me play it before kicking me back to desktop with a Game guard error.  Wish I could check their tech support forums, but it's giving me an "invalid logon" error when I try to use any of the eight million different accounts this game is tied to to create a forum account, and I can't view the forum without it.  As first impressions go, this is not a good sign.

[Falconeer]

And Musashi fails for the tenth time in a single thread to understand the difference between me telling him why Aion is different from WoW, something he couldn't see for himself, and me (NOT) telling how great Aion is. See me in six weeks you say? If you tried better, you would have noticed that I predicted for myself 4 to 8 weeks on this, which I consider a good success for my gaming habits.

Nice conversation we had here:
Step 1) You asked for the diference between this and WoW, since you couldn't see any.
Step 2) I gave you the difference, without claiming Aion to be absolutely better.
Step 3) You went full retard with Canthearyou Iknowlatin Yourenotworthmytime.

So, a few statements I will use as a reference for future random keyboard-happy posters:

- I don't think Aion is going to sell/retain that much.
- I don't think it is such a great game, just a game I will appreciate for 4 to 8 weeks (unless friends happen) because of its focus on PvP and politics/diplomacy.
- It's different (not better) from WoW because it's built around PvP and will present a world and an endgame revolving around sieges and territorial conquest.

What exactly is your point other than being pathetically in need for some random debating? Missing High School? That would explain the Latin goof, too.


EDIT: some spelling. And for the records, I learnt Latin before I learnt English. I know some Ancient Greek too. Maybe I should try making a few points here using that, I am sure it would make my posts sooo much better. 

[01101010]

I say we settle this with Wiffleball bats and bang snaps. annnnd go!

[Slayerik]

Me and Falc both like bad PVP games, so I am actually interested in this now. 

[Falconeer]

I don't know Slayerik, I think enforced factions really limits your natural talent for troublemaking. Heck, I feel pretty limited myself, and I am the good guy.

[Slayerik]

True, but a guy's gotta take what he can get these days I guess..... ;)

[Koyasha]

If you're having gameguard problems, go see Fyrre to disable it, there's a new update today that gets rid of it with no further problems.  Not that I would blame anyone who refuses to play on principle.

[Modern Angel]

Who is Fyrre?

[Koyasha]

She makes the patches to disable Gameguard with for Aion and Lineage II, along with some other L2 stuff.  Err, and my mistake, I misspelled it.  It's Fyyre.

[Draegan]

It works but it violates the EULA obviously.  Use at your own risk.  I have zero issues with Gamegaurd though, so I don't use it.

[Nonentity]

I updated the first post with this info.

Retail Information:

To be best of my knowledge, the servers that are currently available in the North American open beta are the same servers that will be available during retail launch day.

That being said, if you have no previous alliances or ties, feel free to join us during retail.

Launch Server: Zikel
Launch Faction: Elyos

Also, I am playing Asmodian in Open Beta just for fun, you are free to join me there as well:

Open Beta Server: Yustiel
Open Beta Faction: Asmodian

Send a friend request to Enti if you want!

[Slyfeind]

So if I have no interest in PvP, would I still find fun here?

[DLRiley]

Wait 3 months and they will have a pve expansion.

[Draegan]

So if I have no interest in PvP, would I still find fun here?

No, It's a PVP centric game, or even PvPvE if you want to stretch it that way.

You might have fun with it for the first half of the game.  But after 20 you enter in a realm where the other side might have a chance of attacking you at any point. 

[Threash]

So if I have no interest in PvP, would I still find fun here?

I doubt it.  Although i hear the crafting is nice, but i wouldn't know about that really.

[Slayerik]

Wait 3 months and they will have a pve expansion.

Wait 3 months and your balls might drop.

[Lantyssa]

Launch Server: Zikel
Launch Faction: Elyos

I'll be on Zikel, but as Asmodian. 

[Nebu]

Open pvp in a balanced world = fun.

Open pvp in a world where someone with no life can one-shot you by rolling their face across the keyboard = not fun.

MMO's really need to work on the second part.  

[DLRiley]

Why? And besides you haven't even addressed level 2, roaming gank squads and zone/gate campers.

[Nebu]

Why? And besides you haven't even addressed level 2, roaming gank squads and zone/gate campers.

Those things are a trivial nuisance.  Most people expect to get steamrolled by superior numbers and as a result, get less irritated by it.  Being repeatedly stomped by someone 1v1 simply because of level, class advantage, or gear gets old fast, especially if you know that you've outplayed them. 

[Segoris]

Open pvp in a balanced world = fun.

Open pvp in a world where someone with no life can one-shot you by rolling their face across the keyboard = not fun.

MMO's really need to work on the second part.  

There are 2 zones for each level range. 1 has pvp/rifts, the other does not. Theobomos is the level 20+ one for Elyos that does not have pvp (I can't remember the Asmo equal), while Eltnen has rifts and pvp linked to Asmo's Morheim zone. So Aion is offering both, ganking zones and non ganking zones while levelling in addition to the Abyss. You can level in peace the entire way up and pvp later in the abyss if you wanted.

[Nonentity]

Launch Server: Zikel
Launch Faction: Elyos

I'll be on Zikel, but as Asmodian. 

Just make sure to let us know your character name once you're ingame. 

[Draegan]

You can't see opponent names, just Rank.