Mass Effect 2 *spoilers around pg 29/30*

[rk47]

Shepard
Status: Killed in Action

Yeah right. This is probably when they force you to regain all that XP and start from level 1 in a new game again. Come on, you spent all that time saving the world and vowing to put an end to the threat, then you die in the sequel without even playing through it.  

[Ragnoros]

Just in case you were wondering what rk is talking about. Link

[Mosesandstick]

Man, I'm still hoping they remove the DRM so I can play the first one  .

[TripleDES]

Did Bioware ever make good on that bullshit of making you keep your savegames to import into the sequel?

--edit: What am I to get from that teaser? That Shepard was turned into a Geth?

[rk47]

You are to accept that you are no longer rank 40 Specter Operative who had access to the best weapon that the alliance had to offer at the start of the sequel.
importing save game? sigh.

[Hindenburg]

Hey, maybe this time each weapon type will have more than 3 models 

[Lantyssa]

Man, I'm still hoping they remove the DRM so I can play the first one  .

Maybe they'll put out a patch that doesn't require drivers from two years ago to maybe kinda sorta work, too.

[TripleDES]

The Steam version doesn't have that shitty SecuROM, rite?

[schild]

The Steam version doesn't have that shitty SecuROM, rite?

Correct.

[LK]

Seeing Shepard killed in action in the teaser to the sequel after the "I'M GONNA SAVE THE FUCKING GALAXY" speech at the end of Mass Effect 1 is probably the biggest copout I've seen.

[Fabricated]

Nah, they're gonna pull the "IS SHEPARD REALLY DEAD?!? TAKE THIS NEW CHARACTER AND FIND OUT!" route because it fucking kills Bioware to let you actually play your previous character in a sequel since that makes for a lot of extra work bringing new players into the game since you have to explain a lot more backstory. Also, you have to figure out how to scale the game so it's challenging for both new players and people rolling in from the previous game with their save file full of demi-gods.

[Stormwaltz]

Don't discard your saved games.

[schild]

Don't discard your saved games.

That trailer didn't even make me want to play that game. Who's idea was it to have it say Shepherd was killed? It's either bad PR or bad writing - take your pick. And if it's a twist and you play as shepherd who is ASSUMED DEAD but now has her (or his) own mission of vengeance, /SNORE!

Seriously, why? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :(

[NiX]

You could always wait for the game to come out.

[Hawkbit]

Don't discard your saved games.

That trailer didn't even make me want to play that game. Who's idea was it to have it say Shepherd was killed? It's either bad PR or bad writing - take your pick. And if it's a twist and you play as shepherd who is ASSUMED DEAD but now has her (or his) own mission of vengeance, /SNORE!

Seriously, why? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :(

Gotta agree with this. 

I really enjoyed the first one (outside of too many side quests and buggy driving/planet exploring crap), but that trailer did not make me want to play the second.  Shepherd was the only character I actually liked.  And he's presumed dead?  So either we'll start as him only we're pretending to be dead, or we'll find him along the way and add him to the party. 

Either way, I'm confused why they decided to go that route.  It doesn't make me want to play the game at all. 

[murdoc]

You could always wait for the game to come out.

But, it's soooo much harder to have knee-jerk reactions if you follow THAT crap advice.

[NiX]

I can't seem to find this trailer everyone is bitching about. Just a lame teaser.

[schild]

I can't seem to find this trailer everyone is bitching about. Just a lame teaser.

It's not even a teaser, teasers are supposed to tease, this is more like, "lol stupid fans of the series with your hopes for a sequel, motherfucker MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEAD, HAHA AREN'T WE CLEVER HAHA."

[Strazos]

Just for reference, the importing of characters worked fine in BG2, though the incoming character had been subject to a much lower level cap.

[Rasix]

I can't seem to find this trailer everyone is bitching about. Just a lame teaser.

It's not even a teaser, teasers are supposed to tease, this is more like, "lol stupid fans of the series with your hopes for a sequel, motherfucker MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEAD, HAHA AREN'T WE CLEVER HAHA."

Well, isn't that teasing? 

Seriously, we get it. You don't like Bioware.

I don't even get what the big deal with this is.  It's nothing. Move along.  Any discussion about this will likely be rendered moot 5 minutes into the game.

[schild]

Any discussion about this will likely be rendered moot 5 minutes into the game.

That's why I called it bad writing or bad PR.

And I don't like Bioware? No, I just don't like post-Black Isle Bioware. Once they reached the Obsidian-era, it all went downhill. I'm not willing to be revisionist and compare Mass Effect and KoToR to Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, etc. It's not fair to Bioware.

The only Bioware game I actively hate is NWN. All of their other stuff has been mediocre to great imo. NWN is just half-assed trash.

Just like this teaser.

Also, no, it's not teasing. A teaser is supposed to make you salivate. This made me Meh. Audibly.

[Mazakiel]

A better teaser would to have been to have him listed as MIA or something, if they were going to go this general route. 

Either way, while I hope we get to continue as Shepherd, I'll likely end up playing the game either way. 

[Morat20]

Shepherd was the only character I actually liked.  And he's presumed dead?  So either we'll start as him only we're pretending to be dead, or we'll find him along the way and add him to the party. 

Either way, I'm confused why they decided to go that route.  It doesn't make me want to play the game at all. 

I liked female Shepard. Male Shepard seemed to have been put through an emotion and character removal device.

Wrex, on the other hand, was awesome. More Krogans, plz.

[Velorath]

Any discussion about this will likely be rendered moot 5 minutes into the game.

And I don't like Bioware? No, I just don't like post-Black Isle Bioware. Once they reached the Obsidian-era, it all went downhill. I'm not willing to be revisionist and compare Mass Effect and KoToR to Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, etc. It's not fair to Bioware.

I'd take Mass Effect and KotoR over Icewind Dale any day.

[Stormwaltz]

Seriously, why? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :(

 

[Fabricated]

Seriously, why? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :(

 

Whoever's dead in our saves stays dead. This includes people who don't join your party (read: the last several decisions you make). That's what I imagine.

[Tebonas]

Bad marketing, but I have more faith in the storywriters than you lot do after what they delivered in part one.

[Hawkbit]

Any discussion about this will likely be rendered moot 5 minutes into the game.

And I don't like Bioware? No, I just don't like post-Black Isle Bioware. Once they reached the Obsidian-era, it all went downhill. I'm not willing to be revisionist and compare Mass Effect and KoToR to Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, etc. It's not fair to Bioware.

I'd take Mass Effect and KotoR over Icewind Dale any day.

Icewind games had their place.  It was mindless map exploration and shinies.  But it was kinda fun after having to make a bunch of choices in the BG series, and one helluva less headtrip than Torment. 

Shepherd was the only character I actually liked.  And he's presumed dead?  So either we'll start as him only we're pretending to be dead, or we'll find him along the way and add him to the party. 

Either way, I'm confused why they decided to go that route.  It doesn't make me want to play the game at all. 

I liked female Shepard. Male Shepard seemed to have been put through an emotion and character removal device.

Wrex, on the other hand, was awesome. More Krogans, plz.

Wrex was a douche.  For such a badass he was complaining all the time.  And male Shepherd's lack of emotion was exactly what I liked about him.  It's how someone in his shoes would act. 

[Morat20]

Wrex was a douche.  For such a badass he was complaining all the time.  And male Shepherd's lack of emotion was exactly what I liked about him.  It's how someone in his shoes would act. 

His whole people are dying out. He's entitled to be a bit pissy.

And Shepard wasn't "emotionaless hardass" so much as "bad voice actor".

[Lantyssa]

Edit: Nevermind.  You guys didn't play along.

[Murgos]

Don't care, still buying it day 1.

[Fabricated]

Shepard's Male VA was really good IMO when delivering Paragon or Middle-of-the-road lines, but Renegade lines sounded like a good guy pretending to be a bad guy.

I've never played with a female character since I can't find a way to make them look less masculine than the male ones.

[Lantyssa]

The female Shepherd's voice acting was good.

[Kitsune]

Yeah, but evil Shepard occasionally said some hilarious shit with his bad delivery.  Wanting to throw the crippled pilot off the ship for fear that his genetic disorder cripple legs could infect the crew was 

[TripleDES]

The female Shepherd's voice acting was good.

Which is interesting, considering that her voice acting of Bastila in KOTOR made me want to ram a screwdriver into my ear drums...