Battlefield 1943

[Falwell]

...

Please tell me you're talking about Battlefield Heroes.

He isn't unfortunately..

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45233.html

[ashrik]

...but why?

[Mrbloodworth]

...but why?

Seems its not really a full blown game, its a Arcade/PSN down loadable.

To be honest, i am highly disappointed too. 

[AcidCat]

Yeah, I don't get it. They already have Heroes in the works to satisfy the "casual" demographic, why this too? Doesn't make much sense.

[schild]

...but why?

Seems its not really a full blown game, its a Arcade/PSN down loadable.

To be honest, i am highly disappointed too. 

Then you'll be super disappointed when the Arcade/PSN Call of Duty comes out.

[Goreschach]

Sometimes I think the entire industry is just trying to make me swear off buying anything not made by Blizzard.

[Azazel]

Looks like I really need to reinstall 1942 instead..

[Phire]

This has to be the most cynical gaming community I have ever seen. No one has even played the game or seen it outside of one trailer and you are all already swearing it off.

Good on you guys!

[Trippy]

Cynical is our middle name!

[NiX]

This place would shut down in a day if someone complimented a significant change to an established franchise.

[Mrbloodworth]

This has to be the most cynical gaming community I have ever seen. No one has even played the game or seen it outside of one trailer and you are all already swearing it off.

Good on you guys!

[Phire]

This has to be the most cynical gaming community I have ever seen. No one has even played the game or seen it outside of one trailer and you are all already swearing it off.

Good on you guys!

LOL how did I miss that?

[Samprimary]

Cynicism is the appropriate and rational response to the world of gaming and gaming news.

[Azazel]

Um, I liked the things like having several distinct classes, not unlimited ammo, no regenerating health, etc. Sorry for not meeting these new developments with unbridled glee.
 

[Nebu]

Health regen = good.  As long as it's not too fast.

Unlimited ammo = Terrible.  That is an immersion killer for me.  Especially on maps like Berlin. 

Homogenized classes = bad. 

[Geki]

Yeah, I do. Bad Company was really fun and I usually hate the level up and unlock guns deal. There was something about the accessibility that made BF:BC so much fun and you had moments where you felt useful over a sustained amount of time.

This is the problem with the BF games (pre BC I guess).  Especially in 2142.  Starting a new char if you weren't already playing the game from launch you are basically a Voss punching-bag with little hope to rank up because you spend 80% of the match looking at the sky.  Whoever came up with the brilliant idea to have to catass in a shooter should be nail gunned to his chair via scrotum lock.

[Surlyboi]

Yeah, I do. Bad Company was really fun and I usually hate the level up and unlock guns deal. There was something about the accessibility that made BF:BC so much fun and you had moments where you felt useful over a sustained amount of time.

This is the problem with the BF games (pre BC I guess).  Especially in 2142.  Starting a new char if you weren't already playing the game from launch you are basically a Voss punching-bag with little hope to rank up because you spend 80% of the match looking at the sky.  Whoever came up with the brilliant idea to have to catass in a shooter should be nail gunned to his chair via scrotum lock.

This.

Fuck yeah, Seaking.

[Prospero]

Yeah, I have no patience for that shit. I remember my friend telling me how he only had to play for like 20 hours to get the real sniper rifle in 2142.  At the same time, I mostly enjoy the TF2 unlocks, because the weapons usually feel more like a sidegrade than an upgrade, and the achievements are fun to get.

I'd be very happy if they just made a shinier BF1942 with a usable server browser. Based on the few descriptions so far, this game is intended for the mythical casual FPS player, which is not I.

[Sky]

This has to be the most cynical experienced gaming community I have ever seen. No one has even played the game or seen it outside of one trailer and you are all already swearing it off.

Good on you guys!

FIFY

Because those changes....they suck. DICE has been on the road to shitville for a long time, which is why there were people getting excited because it sounded for a minute like they were going back to the original formula for a release. Should've known better. Fuck DICE.

[ashrik]

I'd be very happy if they just made a shinier BF1942 with a usable server browser

Which is what makes this all so much more  to me

It's so very close! Like a literal stones throw or a user-made mods distance away from what I think would be awesome.

[Nebu]

It's so very close! Like a literal stones throw or a user-made mods distance away from what I think would be awesome.

I agree, but I think I want a different direction than the rest of you.  Desert combat ruined the game for me.  I want something slower, more tactical, and more infantry oriented.  Seems all the mods were faster paced and more vehicle oriented. 

[Prospero]

i'd be cool with something more infantry oriented if they bumped the player count per server. I'm thinking  64 v 64 with the pacing and vehicles from BF 1942. I always hated hiking for days to get to find some other fucker to shoot at, which made the infantry game less fun in BF1942.

[Nebu]

i'd be cool with something more infantry oriented if they bumped the player count per server. I'm thinking  64 v 64 with the pacing and vehicles from BF 1942. I always hated hiking for days to get to find some other fucker to shoot at, which made the infantry game less fun in BF1942.

I thought the Berlin city map was a blast were it not for the tanks.  Lots of people in a small space with plent of places to hide. 

[Prospero]

True, Berlin city was pretty decent. I'm a fan of the tanks myself though. it was trying to sneak by while they were dueling in the middle. Iwo Jima sucked for infantry though.

[Azazel]

i'd be cool with something more infantry oriented if they bumped the player count per server. I'm thinking  64 v 64 with the pacing and vehicles from BF 1942. I always hated hiking for days to get to find some other fucker to shoot at, which made the infantry game less fun in BF1942.

The vehicles are what made the BF series for me. Made them different to, you know, every other bloody MPFPS game out there. Also, I was awesome in armour and as anti-armour infantry and as an infantryman and even sniper in general in both 1942 and DC. The only thing I wasn't really good at was flying planes, where I was average, and choppers, where I was ok/decent. I was of course, less so at all of those things in BF2 and less again in 2142 which just had too much in the way of unlocks etc.

[Triforcer]

Stalingrad was the greatest map I have ever played in any FPS or PvP game, ever.  I was average on other maps, but on Stalingrad pubs I got the gold medal much more often than not.  Damn was that map fun...just go in the back door of the enemy building facing the middle flag, and shoot like four guys in the back...

[Nebu]

Stalingrad was the greatest map I have ever played in any FPS or PvP game, ever.  I was average on other maps, but on Stalingrad pubs I got the gold medal much more often than not.  Damn was that map fun...just go in the back door of the enemy building facing the middle flag, and shoot like four guys in the back...

Love that map.  Stairwells and rooms.  Lots of places to snipe.  Beautiful.  More maps like that and Berlin and I'd be a happy man.

[Le0]

If the Battlefield gameplay is kept intact this might be good.

I'll give it a try anyway but I'd prefer if they would evolve the franchise instead of re-warming old things.

[Sky]

Desert combat ruined the game for me.  I want something slower, more tactical, and more infantry oriented.  Seems all the mods were faster paced and more vehicle oriented. 

I agree. As soon as I saw the popularity of DC, I knew bad things were in store for the franchise.

I always hated hiking for days to get to find some other fucker to shoot at, which made the infantry game less fun in BF1942.

Sure, if you're playing it like a traditional fps. But as a tactical shooter, the slower pace was great. It wasn't supposed to be about racking up kill counts, it was about winning rounds. In fact, that's one of the main places I think the game falls down on pubs.

I just had some Stalingrad flashbacks. God that was a sick map. Clearing buildings with a fire team was so much fun.

[Prospero]

Sure, if you're playing it like a traditional fps. But as a tactical shooter, the slower pace was great.

I'm all for slow and tactical, but I like to shoot things. If there's nothing to shoot, then I'm not shooting things, and that's bad. The smaller maps were good fun for infantry, but I can only think of two maps that fit that bill. On the other maps it was all about the planes.

[kildorn]

Is.. is that wake island with a goddamned JUMP RAMP?

Christ, I'm done with this industry. Not everything needs to be xxxtreme.

[Sky]

Actually, I'd be ok with a jump ramp. On pubs I often liked playing crazy taxi. Drive to a spawn point, yell "HOP IN!" load up and drive to the front. "GET OUT!" Then repeat. Playing chicken with tanks or making roadkill was just bonus material. Seeing how long you could drive an unarmored vehicle through a war zone was fun.

[WayAbvPar]

1942 was damned fun, but I still think they hit the sweet spot with BF2. If they could tweak that and add a shitload more maps, I would be all over it for $60. I dug the unlocks- having macro goals made it even more fun.

24 players is not nearly enough, for the reasons stated earlier. With teams that small, it is way to easy to get fucked over by an afker or griefer or two. Also not enough targets with only 12 players to a side unless the maps and stupidly small. That was one of the things that made TF2 wear thin for me.

[ShenMolo]

No Engis?

No Medics?

Le sigh.....

[Nebu]

No Engi's?

No Medic's?

Le sigh.....

Playing a medic sucked unless you were on a dedicated team.  Engineers were the class you played if you knew you would spend the whole game in a tank/vehicle.  I don't mind those going away.  I do wish that they'd create some different types of infantry though.  More weapon/explosives variety would help the game.