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Reply #35 on: February 03, 2009, 06:29:52 PM

Actors should be able to emote well.  Its part of the job.  Bale should put this recording on his resume.

Anyway, Kinski has the best on camera tirade.

There is a reason Hertzog filmed Kinski at gunpoint during Aguirre.

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Reply #36 on: February 03, 2009, 09:00:51 PM

Linky to recording of his hissy fit on set. Prepare to hear "fucking" used a lot and in very funny places.

That is the soundtrack to the end of Bale's major role career. It doesn't matter how much a useless cunt the DP was. Not one bit. Coupled with the allegations that he assaulted his mom and sister last summer, he'll likely not work on anything important in Hollywood again. He just pulled a Crowe.

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Reply #37 on: February 03, 2009, 09:09:51 PM

If by a "Crowe", you mean he will continue to find substantial and starring roles in major motion pictures while having the image of sometimes being difficult to work with, I agree with that statement.
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Reply #38 on: February 03, 2009, 09:12:32 PM

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Reply #39 on: February 03, 2009, 09:22:20 PM

Yeah, I saw that.  I take anything I read from aicn with a big block of salt, but I think it does help illuminate the mystery of why anybody would blow up like that without trying to be an asshole.  We might find it silly and absurd, but the event described there, were it to have actually happened that way, would be like somebody continually trying to tune their piano during a rehearsal/recording session.  In either case it's unnecessary interference that could have waited.
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Reply #40 on: February 04, 2009, 05:25:52 AM

I hope that Knowles really did talk to someone who happened to be on the set that day and isn't just pulling that shit out of his arse (because, despite what he says about "Only because I found some details out, do we know it was in the midst of a scene between him and Bryce Howard" it's pretty clear from the recording that's what the case was. Something to do with Bale saying “...it’s fucking distracting having someone walking up behind Bryce in the middle of the fucking scene...")

Even if it's not, he puts into words pretty much what my thoughts were. It doesn't matter if you're the DP or the director, unless you've got a real reason to be pissing around with lights during a scene then you leave it until between takes.  Even from Bale's tirade he makes it clear that this is the second time during that particular scene that the DP was wandering around and implies that it's happened several times before.

Personally I'm a little taken aback (but not entirely surprised) by McG's attitude as director. It doesn't sound like he's got any control and isn't about to step in.  Mind you, I think the Bruce that did try to step in was Bruce Franklin, one of the associate producers and it didn't sound like he was having too much luck in assuaging Bale either so McG was probably sensible in staying out of it.

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Reply #41 on: February 04, 2009, 05:38:08 AM

Actors should be able to emote well.  Its part of the job.  Bale should put this recording on his resume.

Anyway, Kinski has the best on camera tirade.

There is a reason Hertzog filmed Kinski at gunpoint during Aguirre.

And then there's that time when indians asked Hertzog if he wanted Kinski killed.

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Reply #42 on: February 04, 2009, 05:46:25 AM

Guys, he's Welsh.

Get some fucking perspective.

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Reply #43 on: February 04, 2009, 06:37:41 AM

Guys, he's Welsh.

Get some fucking perspective.


What's your fucking point you fucking prick? I'll kick your fucking ass unless you give me a damn good answer.

You and me? We're fucking through.

 why so serious?

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Reply #44 on: February 04, 2009, 06:46:25 AM

I think you made my point !


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Reply #45 on: February 04, 2009, 11:52:45 AM

From what little I've experienced of being on video sets (and this wasn't even a multi-million dollar movie), you don't move around on set too much at all during filming. You don't make sounds if the director says not to. And you sure as FUCK don't mess with the lights DURING A SCENE. That's amateur hour shit. I still think Bale is probably an asshole, but he was justified in reaming the guy out.

McG is a tool, so he likely did nothing to help the situation at all.

Harry Knowles is an even bigger tool, and his nob-slobbery knows no bounds. Of course, he's right about one thing. It ain't fucking news, certainly not worthy of the coverage it's gotten on TV.

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Reply #46 on: February 04, 2009, 07:43:46 PM

Speaking of Herzog, here is a post from the First AD on Rescue Dawn about Bale that is pretty interesting.

This is a great movie BTW if you want a rental.

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Reply #47 on: February 04, 2009, 08:21:02 PM

Speaking of Herzog, here is a post from the First AD on Rescue Dawn about Bale that is pretty interesting.

This is a great movie BTW if you want a rental.

I second that emotion.  Rescue Dawn is great and I had forgotten that Herzog directed both Kinski and Bale. 

No coincidence that, I am sure.
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Reply #48 on: February 04, 2009, 10:34:24 PM

Speaking of Herzog, here is a post from the First AD on Rescue Dawn about Bale that is pretty interesting.

This is a great movie BTW if you want a rental.

That was a pretty interesting read, thanks.

And yeah, Rescue Dawn is a really good movie, I think you can actually get it pretty cheaply on blu-ray right now.
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Reply #49 on: February 05, 2009, 12:08:15 AM

McG is a tool, so he likely did nothing to help the situation at all.

He didn't but I'll retract what I said about him earlier. It turns out that Bruce Franklin, as well as being Associate Producer, was 1st AD. It was his job to run the set and his job to sort out problems and not McGs. He did step in to tray and mediate between Bale and Hurlbut but not very successfully.  Probably because he did nothing to stop the situation from happening in the first place. I was talking to a director friend last night and she said that in the same situation she would have probably taken the McG route too and not gotten involved.

That Harry Knapp piece is great. Thanks for the link. Haven't got around to watching the film yet but it's on the list.

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Reply #50 on: February 05, 2009, 07:04:27 AM

I wonder if it's the guy Bale scolded who leaked this? I'm with the  majority on this one: the more I find out the more my feeling becomes "I'd have cussed him out too."

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Reply #51 on: February 05, 2009, 04:26:33 PM

The thing is the DP should have just gone, "I'm so sorry - it won't happen again" and let Bale cool off. There is a point where Bale is cooling and the DP does something that just gets Bale going again when a "sorry" would have calmed the situation.

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Reply #52 on: February 05, 2009, 04:58:46 PM

I don't think it's some deal of "pampered movie star" exactly. I mean, in what way is Bale really a typical movie star? I never noticed him to be someone who does a bunch of "celebrity" type of shit. He's just an egotistical artist - which is a bit different. There are painters and photographers, with a lower profile than him, who act the same way. Photographers can especially be the biggest dicks, because they're fucking OCD about shooting conditions and light.

To top it off, yeah, he probably is a dick in general. Like most people are. Most people should be nicer, including him. What else is new, eh?
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Reply #53 on: February 05, 2009, 08:36:22 PM

Uh, kind of ironic that I talk about OCD and lighting... Since this was this other guy's problem, from what I understand?
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Reply #54 on: February 05, 2009, 08:57:04 PM

Every indication is that Bale is a hardcore actor who works very hard at conveying tone and subtext, but isn't a diva (no demands for peanut M&M's with all the green ones removed, or the biggest trailer, and other such nonsense).  He was genuinely pissed off because it was a difficult scene and the DP was standing behind the other actor fucking with lights, and apparently not for the first time.  The DP is probably the one who either made the tape available or arranged for it, and it's backfiring on him as everyone who has worked with Bale comes out and says "Damn straight he ripped you a new asshole, and you deserved it."

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Reply #55 on: February 06, 2009, 06:02:42 AM

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Reply #56 on: February 06, 2009, 10:49:06 AM

Every indication is that Bale is a hardcore actor who works very hard at conveying tone and subtext, but isn't a diva (no demands for peanut M&M's with all the green ones removed, or the biggest trailer, and other such nonsense).

Not to mention, he's been doing it since he was a kid. And not cameo appearances on Blossom. He was in everything from Henry V to starring in war epics and shit. "For fucksake you amateur!!" starts to sound like an understandable insult if you take his professionalism into context. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #57 on: February 06, 2009, 08:20:04 PM

Guys, he's Welsh.

Get some fucking perspective.


My paternal grandparents were from Wales. Is ther some sort of sterotype I'm not living up to?

Also, this.

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Reply #58 on: February 06, 2009, 09:36:50 PM

Yes.  How come we can understand you?  You should be so indecipherable that even your typing is unreadable. Grin

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Reply #59 on: February 06, 2009, 10:20:31 PM

Guys, he's Welsh.

Get some fucking perspective.


My paternal grandparents were from Wales. Is ther some sort of sterotype I'm not living up to?

Also, this.

The guy wearing the shirt is creepin' me out.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Reply #60 on: February 06, 2009, 10:59:52 PM

Guys, he's Welsh.

Get some fucking perspective.


My paternal grandparents were from Wales. Is ther some sort of sterotype I'm not living up to?

Also, this.

With a name like Angry Bob ?  No, you're living up to it just fine.

Indeed, given past rants, your Welsh heritage has come as no surprise at all.   why so serious?

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Reply #61 on: February 07, 2009, 01:36:19 AM

TBH if I lived in Wales I'd be angry too. And damp.

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Reply #62 on: February 07, 2009, 06:03:18 AM

Welsh accent is by far one of the best, I think! But Christian Bale barely has one.
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Reply #63 on: February 07, 2009, 07:17:34 AM

I, too, am of Welsh heritage.

Which may explain why I heard Bale's rant and my reaction was, "And?"
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Reply #64 on: February 07, 2009, 07:37:34 AM

Welsh accent is by far one of the best, I think! But Christian Bale barely has one.
It is.  I loved listening to this one lady I met talk, but it was odd how she slipped between being perfectly understandable and gibberish.

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Reply #65 on: February 07, 2009, 10:51:28 PM

That is the soundtrack to the end of Bale's major role career. It doesn't matter how much a useless cunt the DP was. Not one bit. Coupled with the allegations that he assaulted his mom and sister last summer, he'll likely not work on anything important in Hollywood again. He just pulled a Crowe.

Bale just starred in the second highest grossing movie of all time. He could have pulled a gun and shot this guy in the face right there on the set and it wouldn't matter to the people making decisions in Hollywood.

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Reply #66 on: February 07, 2009, 11:01:40 PM

Worst mistake in all of this was apologizing for it.  He should have embraced his assholery and let the world know that he is srzs bzns. 
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Reply #67 on: February 07, 2009, 11:39:36 PM

There's no problem here for Bale. If Russell Crowe is still getting work, so will he.

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Reply #68 on: February 08, 2009, 05:56:25 AM

That is the soundtrack to the end of Bale's major role career. It doesn't matter how much a useless cunt the DP was. Not one bit. Coupled with the allegations that he assaulted his mom and sister last summer, he'll likely not work on anything important in Hollywood again. He just pulled a Crowe.

Bale just starred in the second highest grossing movie of all time. He could have pulled a gun and shot this guy in the face right there on the set and it wouldn't matter to the people making decisions in Hollywood.

Well, other than 'when does he get out' you mean. 

Shooting someone in the face has to get what.. a month and a half in jail in Hollywoodland, right?

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Reply #69 on: February 08, 2009, 06:25:16 AM

Russell Crowe is one end of the spectrum on that question.  Val Kilmer is the other (Batman too, remember?)

Ultimately, jackassery like that can mean the difference between staying on the scene and falling off.  It isn't necessarily fatal, but it doesn't help. 

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