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on: January 12, 2009, 02:06:06 PM

Does manga fall under this category?

This has to be one of the best illustrated, most mature, excellently awesome manga series I have ever read. It's up to 26 volumes now, bringing the storyline to close to the end of the Japanese PS2 game that never made it stateside.

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Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 05:28:29 PM

I started reading this about 5 years ago. Like all manga the story seems to progress at glacial speed but the inclusion of actual plot development and real change to the world put most DC or Marvel monthlies to shame. It also gives me quite a strong Conan vibe in terms of the world it's set in. I'd tell people to read it (Can be found on-line or bought) but be warned not to expect much conclusion for a while.

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Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 06:12:26 PM

I really enjoyed the anime, so I might pick this up - but I have a hard time reading manga in general. But I'll give it another shot!

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Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 06:18:51 PM

There's only one ongoing manga that manages to compete with Berserk in the mature action niche.

That manga is Shamo.

You might also wanna read Koroshiya Ichi, Homunculus, Blame!, NSE, NOiSE, Biomega and Digimortal.

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Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 06:44:59 PM

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Koroshiya Ichi

The movie is >>>>> than the manga. This is a rare case though as Takashi Miike is a fucking master.


Sorry for the derail.
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Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 07:34:25 PM

The movie is complete shit. Miike completely fucked the ending.

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Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 02:25:37 PM

I really enjoyed the anime, so I might pick this up - but I have a hard time reading manga in general. But I'll give it another shot!

The manga carries on from where the series ends so if you're at all curious as to what happens to Griffith or Guts you could do much worse. Like I said though, be warned to not get any satisfying conclusion for a few more years at least (as far as I can see anyway).

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Reply #7 on: January 15, 2009, 01:18:29 PM

Some of the greatest music I've heard in Anime and Video Games comes from Berserk:

Forces (Anime Series) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSAh4zb25s
Forces II (Dreamcast Game) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbgfEasNnY
Sign (PS2 Game Intro) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrgZjhlpIQ

Susumu Hirasawa is pretty good.

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Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 05:30:30 PM

There's only one ongoing manga that manages to compete with Berserk in the mature action niche.

That manga is Shamo.

You might also wanna read Koroshiya Ichi, Homunculus, Blame!, NSE, NOiSE, Biomega and Digimortal.
And Akumetsu (which is  DRILLING AND MANLINESS and if you like any of the following you should give it a go: Berserk, Death Note, V for Vendetta (original version), watching free market capitalists get their just desserts in vicious manners after the protagonist has won an arguement against them).

Also Franken Fran, which is both Not Work Safe and Not Mind Safe but kind of sweet...in a Tim Burton-meets-David Cronenberg sort of way.

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Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 02:59:16 PM

I really enjoyed the anime, so I might pick this up - but I have a hard time reading manga in general. But I'll give it another shot!

The manga carries on from where the series ends so if you're at all curious as to what happens to Griffith or Guts you could do much worse. Like I said though, be warned to not get any satisfying conclusion for a few more years at least (as far as I can see anyway).

The entirety of the series is part of the manga. I forget what chapters that storyline is, but I'm pretty sure it's the first several chapters. It's been a while since I read it, it gets translated so slowly (even by fan groups) that I've taken to just waiting a year or so between getting the new chapters that have been done and reading them all at once. It's one of the better things I've read, including modern novels.

As great as the storyline is that they made into the series, it's actually one of the less interesting ones and is really nothing but the prologue to the ongoing story. In a similar vein, the art gets better and better with each chapter, making the first chapters look really stiff and amateurish in comparison.

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Reply #10 on: February 08, 2009, 09:29:29 PM

Sidooh is pretty good too if you want to take a look at it. It's about as brutal but less supernatural. Basically follows two kids as they try to survive in the 1800's when Perry comes with his black ships to force open Japan's borders, inadvertently bringing an epidemic of Cholera that kills their mother.

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Reply #11 on: February 08, 2009, 10:00:32 PM

I really enjoyed the anime, so I might pick this up - but I have a hard time reading manga in general. But I'll give it another shot!

The manga carries on from where the series ends so if you're at all curious as to what happens to Griffith or Guts you could do much worse. Like I said though, be warned to not get any satisfying conclusion for a few more years at least (as far as I can see anyway).

The entirety of the series is part of the manga. I forget what chapters that storyline is, but I'm pretty sure it's the first several chapters. It's been a while since I read it, it gets translated so slowly (even by fan groups) that I've taken to just waiting a year or so between getting the new chapters that have been done and reading them all at once. It's one of the better things I've read, including modern novels.

As great as the storyline is that they made into the series, it's actually one of the less interesting ones and is really nothing but the prologue to the ongoing story. In a similar vein, the art gets better and better with each chapter, making the first chapters look really stiff and amateurish in comparison.

The anime series also left out key bits, from what I read. Don't get involved with the anime. Just read the mangas. I'm finding that's the best way to enjoy any property from Japan.

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Reply #12 on: March 01, 2009, 10:22:41 AM

Should checkout Claymore if you liked Berserk. Only two manga i read on a regular basis.
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Reply #13 on: March 06, 2009, 06:04:15 PM

I really enjoyed the anime, so I might pick this up - but I have a hard time reading manga in general. But I'll give it another shot!

The manga carries on from where the series ends so if you're at all curious as to what happens to Griffith or Guts you could do much worse. Like I said though, be warned to not get any satisfying conclusion for a few more years at least (as far as I can see anyway).

The entirety of the series is part of the manga. I forget what chapters that storyline is, but I'm pretty sure it's the first several chapters. It's been a while since I read it, it gets translated so slowly (even by fan groups) that I've taken to just waiting a year or so between getting the new chapters that have been done and reading them all at once. It's one of the better things I've read, including modern novels.

As great as the storyline is that they made into the series, it's actually one of the less interesting ones and is really nothing but the prologue to the ongoing story. In a similar vein, the art gets better and better with each chapter, making the first chapters look really stiff and amateurish in comparison.

Actually, the anime was fairly complete, it contained the entire Golden Age storyline that started when Gutz first met Griffith and up until his ascension.    What I liked about it is that the whole demons and magic aspect was introduced until the very end.  I am missing 3 parts from the manga though.  Need to get those.

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Reply #14 on: March 07, 2009, 01:48:48 PM

There's only one ongoing manga that manages to compete with Berserk in the mature action niche.

That manga is Shamo.

You might also wanna read Koroshiya Ichi, Homunculus, Blame!, NSE, NOiSE, Biomega and Digimortal.
And Akumetsu (which is  DRILLING AND MANLINESS and if you like any of the following you should give it a go: Berserk, Death Note, V for Vendetta (original version), watching free market capitalists get their just desserts in vicious manners after the protagonist has won an arguement against them).

Also Franken Fran, which is both Not Work Safe and Not Mind Safe but kind of sweet...in a Tim Burton-meets-David Cronenberg sort of way.

Actually he kills socialist profit mongering bureaucrats who embezzle money and waist tax payers money. He killed more deficit ramping politicians then profit mongering executives. Hell the current arc has him killing a congressmen for what amounts to an ear mark over here.
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Reply #15 on: March 14, 2009, 07:38:18 PM

Actually, the anime was fairly complete, it contained the entire Golden Age storyline that started when Gutz first met Griffith and up until his ascension. 

What? The Golden Age arc isn't even a third of the manga that's been published so far, and the anime left some stuff out that was in the manga if I recall. The anime is nowhere close to being "complete".

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Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 12:46:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSKMqKHQrh8

The PS2 game that never got released over here really has a kinetic energy to its fights (along with excellent sound design and OMG great fucking music from the guy who did Forces) that exemplify why I love Berserk. It's just downright bloody good.

As a note: the manga that is released in English has finally included all elements of this game, so you can read the entire manga now and not be spoiled.

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Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 01:06:52 PM

I've beaten the ps2 jap game. Good graphics. Good gameplay. Terrific sound. Gets boring as fuck after a while.

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Reply #18 on: June 14, 2009, 01:33:13 PM

Oh hey, this is just taken a hard left into "Wait, what?" territory with the latest couple of chapters.
It's still  awesome, for real though.

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Reply #19 on: June 14, 2009, 10:42:55 PM

Berserk kinda lost me when it went into the massive setup for tragedy that is the messianic exploits of Griffith. Is that part over yet?

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Reply #20 on: June 15, 2009, 06:15:49 AM

Griffin seems to have just accomplished whatever it was he set out to do. I'm not sure exactly what that is but broadly the world just took a massive fucking left turn.

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Reply #21 on: June 21, 2009, 07:38:26 AM

Hmm basically a run down on what is happening; Griffith = God Hand, fifth to be exact, because Griffith is God Hand he needed an elaborate way to become a physical entity in our world and remain that way. If you read this far into berserk you should know that Griffith has a permanent physical form and remains a God Hand, this is important because God Hands are upper level beings in the deeper levels of the astral realm, his existence in the physical layer of the world preforms the task of slowly merging the astral realm with the physical realm. Recently Griffith has found a way to speed up the process with some help of some unlikely and unwilling participants. If you have no idea what a merger between the astral realm and physical realm would be like, or don't understand the inherent danger of such a transaction, imagine if every human being had Gutts brand.
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