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Margalis
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I just had the misfortune of watching this.
Wow. Awful. Can we stop saying that these movies are for kids but have things for adults too? I've seen this story about 500 times before and they went to back to well of "looks like this character might be dead - oh miracle of miracles they're still alive!!" about ten times in the last 40 minutes.
It saddens me that this sort of simple tripe can entertain adults.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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ahoythematey
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Dude, you work for Square and that's your response to Wall-E?
Wall-E has a lot of heart, I don't understand how a person comes to hate the movie.
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Ratman_tf
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Dude, you work for Square and that's your response to Wall-E?
Wall-E has a lot of heart, I don't understand how a person comes to hate the movie.
I'll cut him some slack. I didn't care for Finding Nemo myself, but loved Wall-E.
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Abagadro
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Hoax
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I thought this was a great movie, I mean I only half watched it while doing a windows reinstall but I thought it was cute. If I had a kid I'd be glad I could watch this instead of, well, anything not made my Pixar for kids.
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kERRA
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You're not supposed to think while watching movies like this. You're supposed to sit there with a box of tissues and say "awwwww."
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Rishathra
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You are, of course, allowed to think, "wow, this is a great movie!"
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Margalis
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Cute by itself doesn't do much for me and I didn't see the movie as having any heart at all. It was totally by the numbers. And the concepts all came across at such a basic level. Compare the anti-corporate message of Wall-E to the anti-inudstrial message of Princess Mononoke. The former is in baby-speak, overly obvious and frankly stupid coming from a company like Disney that doesn't have an anti-lazyness, anti-corporate bone in its body. Or if Mononoke is the wrong age range look at Totoro.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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NiX
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Who in their right mind would show their kid Mononoke?
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Triforcer
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Wall E made overweight people cry, according to Slate. The movie is practically a hate crime.
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Fordel
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You have no soul sir. 
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Kail
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I wasn't really nuts about this movie, either, and I generally love Pixar's stuff. It felt really generic, to me. I had tons of problems with characterization (Eva the autonomous scout robot sent to check the barren earth is able to fire nuclear laser beams, while the police robots have no real weapons and get the crap kicked out of them by the robot that paints the parking lines?) dialogue ("WALL-E!" "E-VA!" "WALL-E!" "E-VAAAAAA!" "WALL-EEEEEEEE!" FOR TWO FUCKING HOURS) and plot. Thought the climax, in particular, was weak. Generally, Pixar has some kind of kickass action sequence for the climax. Cars had the big race, The Incredibles had that big fight scene, Toy Story had the confrontation with Sid, Wall-E has a bunch of fatasses rolling around on the floor. Visuals were well done, though, I'll give them that (though I was kind of puzzled at their decision to use live actors for the "documentary footage" but sylized CG for the actual characters...).
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Ironwood
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Don't you dare diss Nemo.
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MrHat
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Don't you dare diss Nemo.
Seriously. Don't.
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Ratman_tf
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Hey, I'm not gonna jump up and down and say Nemo sucked, but it's my least favorite of the Pixar movies by far. I did like the seagulls. 
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Merusk
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The seagulls still crack me up. I can't imagine the poor guy who has to stand outside of the "Living Seas/ Finding Nemo Experience" in Epcot center feels the same. Animatronic seagulls that flap and shout "mine" for a good 20 seconds every few minutes are only about 15 feet away.
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« Last Edit: December 15, 2008, 09:43:28 AM by Merusk »
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DraconianOne
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A point can be MOOT. MUTE is more along the lines of what you should be. - WayAbvPar
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I just watched this tonight. I wasn't very impressed. The story I guess was fine, but the whole enviro/fat thing gets old after a bit. It definitely could have been funnier.
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Arthur_Parker
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The story I guess was fine, but the whole enviro/fat thing gets old after a bit. It definitely could have been funnier.
Wall E came free with my blu-ray player, my daughter likes it and she calls the shots about what we watch on TV, so I've seen part of the director commentary. According to the director the whole idea came from what if a robot kept doing what it was designed to do for hundreds of years and didn't realise it could stop. His original idea was a robot on a trash planet, the finding life part was just to contrast with the rubbish and pretty much the remaining two thirds of the film just flowed from that, his original idea didn't include the environmental/fat message at all. I thought it was pretty good.
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SurfD
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My question is: If you had robots willing to do EVERYTHING for you to ensure your comfort, for MULTIPLE generations, do you honestly imagine that by the 5th or 6th generation humanity wouldn't be exactly like WALL-E depicted?
Hell, as far as I am concerned, they did the fat thing with a VERY light hand. They totally skipped out on the fact that if those were real humans, they would also have been lazy and feeling extremely entitled as well. You can be damn sure they would not have gone along with being "liberated" from their robotic conveniences quite as easily and swiftly.
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Lakov_Sanite
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My question is: If you had robots willing to do EVERYTHING for you to ensure your comfort, for MULTIPLE generations, do you honestly imagine that by the 5th or 6th generation humanity wouldn't be exactly like WALL-E depicted?
Hell, as far as I am concerned, they did the fat thing with a VERY light hand. They totally skipped out on the fact that if those were real humans, they would also have been lazy and feeling extremely entitled as well. You can be damn sure they would not have gone along with being "liberated" from their robotic conveniences quite as easily and swiftly.
Except that Wall-E was a comedy. I get what you're saying and in another movie it might have done well to explore those devices but for what it was, a pixar comedy...it was excellent.
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~a horrific, dark simulacrum that glares balefully at us, with evil intent.
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ghost
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Except that Wall-E was a comedy.
I usually like Pixar stuff. For a comedy it certainly didn't seem particularly funny. I liked the idea of the robot doing what it was programmed to do. I thought the environmental part of the story was overblown, but whatever. The bottom line was that it seemed bland to me. Usually I will have a gut laugh or two out of these movies, but not this one. I can't really recommend this one.
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Tale
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My question is: If you had robots willing to do EVERYTHING for you to ensure your comfort, for MULTIPLE generations, do you honestly imagine that by the 5th or 6th generation humanity wouldn't be exactly like WALL-E depicted?
Forget Hancock, now we're analysing Wall-E lore!
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DraconianOne
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I usually like Pixar stuff. For a comedy it certainly didn't seem particularly funny.
Really? Wow. I thought the first 30 minutes or whatever was pure cinematic genius and very funny. Couldn't get the grin of my face for the entire movie.
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Margalis, please report to your nearest 'relocation' camp, and head straight to the 'showers'.
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schild
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I didn't like it. It wasn't bad. It just felt like it was trying too hard to be art, while it clearly wasn't. There's nothing wrong with just making a movie - they should've stuck to that. /shrug
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Khaldun
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I thought the first part was fantastic. The second part verged into preachy and obvious. It was good, but not the greatest of Pixar's output.
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Sjofn
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I loved the first part and enjoyed the bit of transcending gender roles it did (EvE is the exploring, rescuing bad-ass, Wall-E is the nurturing show-tunes lover that teaches EvE to care about MORE than her JOB). I was pretty indifferent to the The Message though.
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Lantyssa
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I was the same. Eve being tempramental and possessing weapons that could vaporize anything just added to the fun.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Brogarn
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I thought the first part was fantastic. The second part verged into preachy and obvious. It was good, but not the greatest of Pixar's output.
That's my view on it as well. I feel the messages in most Pixar movies are done rather well without interrupting the flow of entertainment but instead enhancing it and giving you something to chew on later. This one was too obvious and heavy handed. It was like Hancock where you felt like you just watched two movies compressed together to make one film. One part message, the other part entertainment instead of smoothly combining the two.
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ghost
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Eve was badass. The problem is that this movie was way too much of a "message movie".
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