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on: December 01, 2008, 05:30:42 AM

No Hancock thread?  Odd.

Anyway, I liked it.  I guess.  First half of the movie was actually pretty damn good, but then they went off in a direction they really didn't need to go.  They had a good thing going, and then it just got weird...like two different movies.  Could've been much, much more than it was.  Shoot, in retrospect, maybe I didn't like it.

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Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 06:36:50 AM

I still haven't seen it yet but want to. Is it Office Space "two different movies" or Stargate "two different movies"?
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Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 06:38:59 AM

It's a Will Smith movie. Watching for the plot (or in this case, yes, plots) is kinda ... I don't know... watching it incorrectly.
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Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 07:14:57 AM

As long as it's not Dusk Till Dawn "two different movies", it can't be that bad.

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Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 08:17:05 AM

I won't start spoilering it just yet, but it's more like "hey, this is a really interesting concept of a super hero struggling with real life issues and isn't universally loved - wow, I really like where this is going" and then it turned into "hey, they totally fucking missed the target here, I had no idea they were going in this direction and they really fucking shouldn't have."

Seriously, the first half was almost...not gripping, but a less powerful word.  Then it fell off the rails.

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Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 09:05:32 AM

As long as it's not Dusk Till Dawn "two different movies", it can't be that bad.

I liked From Dusk til Dawn,  and I really liked that it was two separate movies.  The setup was taken seriously, and wasn't just something you had to sit through to get to the payoff.

Really,  Predator was the exact same:  you had a military shoot-em-up on the front end where you established the characters and plot, and boom all of a sudden it turned into a monster movie.  For that matter, Aliens and Dog Soldiers were pretty similar. 
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Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 10:44:50 AM

I also loved Dusk til Dawn but especially because it was another one I watched knowing *nothing* about it beforehand, so when this bland-feeling road movie suddenly turned into a mad vampire film I was all  ACK!   swamp poop    awesome, for real

Hancock seriously underwhelmed me however. Good start and er... that's it.

I don't get Will Smith. He can be a damn fine actor, but he does so much crap. Surely he's beyond needing the money by now. I also just got serious deja vu typing that sentence so either I've said that before here or they changed something in the Matrix. Or I have a brain tumour.

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Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 12:46:27 PM

I liked From Dusk til Dawn,  and I really liked that it was two separate movies.  The setup was taken seriously, and wasn't just something you had to sit through to get to the payoff.

Really,  Predator was the exact same:  you had a military shoot-em-up on the front end where you established the characters and plot, and boom all of a sudden it turned into a monster movie.  For that matter, Aliens and Dog Soldiers were pretty similar. 

For me, Full Metal Jacket is the epitome of the two-movies-in-one.

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Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 01:28:57 PM

I liked From Dusk til Dawn,  and I really liked that it was two separate movies.  The setup was taken seriously, and wasn't just something you had to sit through to get to the payoff.

Really,  Predator was the exact same:  you had a military shoot-em-up on the front end where you established the characters and plot, and boom all of a sudden it turned into a monster movie.  For that matter, Aliens and Dog Soldiers were pretty similar. 


I want to explain to you how they're really not two seperate films but I don't think I've got the energy.  Plus it's a film-geek place I don't want to visit right now.

K9's bang on though - Full Metal Jacket is two films in one and is the only real one that's been mentioned here.  Two films, six acts, one marvellous whole.

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Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 01:46:41 PM

FMJ's second half is not very good imo.


I liked Hancock. Also, I think this is the first time I realized how gorgeous Charlize Theron is. Somehow, it escaped me before.
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Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 01:53:07 PM

Aeon Flux pika?

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Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 02:24:25 PM

never seen it.. heard too many bad things about it..

then again, it could all be bullshit and turn out good, like a lucas movie  why so serious?
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Reply #12 on: December 01, 2008, 02:25:45 PM

Aeon Flux pika?

Charlize Theron is the only redeeming thing in Reindeer Games.
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Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 02:45:42 PM

Charlize Theron is the only redeeming thing in Reindeer Games.

Same could be said for Hancock.  The script killed any potential this film had. 

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Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 04:12:33 PM

never seen it.. heard too many bad things about it..

then again, it could all be bullshit and turn out good, like a lucas movie  why so serious?

I bought Aeon Flux on blu-ray because of Charlize Theron. She is goddamn HOT in that. Just brutalizingly hot.
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Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 04:26:02 PM

Hmm... Worth a download then, I guess  Ohhhhh, I see. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #16 on: December 01, 2008, 04:55:53 PM

I liked Hancock, it was fun.

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Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 05:58:53 PM

I agree it was fun. But I also agree the second half where they turn the superhero movie into ....sucked ass.

I loved Will's last vampire flick. But the script writers killed this one in the second half.

Also this.....make another thread for From Dusk Til Dawn. It sucked. The only reason ANYONE liked it was because A) They thought liking Quentin Taratino was cool and B) Salma Hayek got their dicks hard.

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Reply #18 on: December 01, 2008, 06:14:44 PM

I agree it was fun. But I also agree the second half where they turn the superhero movie into ....sucked ass.

I loved Will's last vampire flick. But the script writers killed this one in the second half.

Also this.....make another thread for From Dusk Til Dawn. It sucked. The only reason ANYONE liked it was because A) They thought liking Quentin Taratino was cool and B) Salma Hayek got their dicks hard.

Will smith had a vampire flick?

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Reply #19 on: December 01, 2008, 06:49:23 PM

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Reply #20 on: December 02, 2008, 02:03:08 AM

The only reason ANYONE liked it was because A) They thought liking Quentin Taratino was cool and B) Salma Hayek got their dicks hard.

Or C) They actually enjoyed it in its own right as an fun, entertaining and enjoyable film.

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Reply #21 on: December 02, 2008, 02:53:39 AM

Also this.....make another thread for From Dusk Til Dawn. It sucked. The only reason ANYONE liked it was because A) They thought liking Quentin Taratino was cool and B) Salma Hayek got their dicks hard.

The only reason ANYONE dislikes From Dusk Til Dawn is because they hate fun for the sake of hating fun.
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Reply #22 on: December 02, 2008, 03:30:36 AM

I like Tarantino, but I don't necessarily equate it with him.

It's hit and miss for me though. All of the actors are cool, the setup's cool, but I don't really care for that particular take on the vampire deal.. I am Legend and 30 Days of Night aren't really my cup of tea either. Those type of stories, with the rabid vamps and shit, don't really tap into what makes different than other movie monsters: That they're not monsters. Practically human in every way, except for the bloodlust. Evil by necessity. A lot more room for character stories that way. When you turn them into animals, it gets boring imo. And it becomes all about the victims warding them off -- but I say to hell with the victims!

Sorry if this sounds all serious and faggy.. heh..
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Reply #23 on: December 08, 2008, 08:49:29 AM

Sorry if this sounds all serious and faggy.. heh..

No worries, I noticed your name before I read the post. awesome, for real

Just saw Hancock on BluRay and I enjoyed it.  I could have used more of the first half, but I'm not sure how much they could have gotten out of it.  Second half had lots of Theron, so it was also OK.  I liked her more before she lost the weight; now she's only a few miles better than most other actors.  Also Bateman was good.

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Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 02:05:08 AM

Oh yeah.. Bateman.

I'm gay for him too. I heartily welcome the weird return of Bateman to movies. Funny dude.
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Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 07:12:47 AM

Alright, you take Jason and I'll take Justine.

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Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 07:36:02 AM

She showed up in Californication recently actually. That was odd.
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Reply #27 on: December 09, 2008, 07:38:54 AM

She hasn't aged particularly well, either.

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Reply #28 on: December 11, 2008, 06:21:12 AM

Charlize Theron is fucking hot.


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Reply #29 on: December 11, 2008, 10:30:45 AM

Charlize Theron is fucking hot.

Yes, sir.

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Reply #30 on: December 14, 2008, 09:55:40 AM

never seen it.. heard too many bad things about it..

then again, it could all be bullshit and turn out good, like a lucas movie  why so serious?

I bought Aeon Flux on blu-ray because of Charlize Theron. She is goddamn HOT in that. Just brutalizingly hot.

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I'm going to totally disagree with all of you it seems like.  I thought the beginning of this movie was shit.  It almost sort of got interesting in the second half.  The action was absolutely terrible.  There was so much wrong with that first action/chase sequence I don't know what to say.  The part with the girl was terrible because I wanted to see those titties in a bad way.  Stupid we dont make R movies anymore bullshit.

The movie only kind of redeemed itself later when it became about the two of them.  It wasn't great but it was interestingly different.  The first part was fucking awful.  I mean every time something got torn up it looked so bad.  Who was doing the CGI for that movie anyways?  I've never seen such generic chunks of twisted metal flying around be used for pretty much everything that gets destroyed.


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Reply #31 on: December 26, 2008, 04:15:12 PM

I liked the movie very much.  Love, though, is such a strong word. 
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Reply #32 on: January 22, 2009, 02:39:26 PM

I really dug this movie. I didn't realize it was a Peter Berg joint until the end credits came up, but having seen it, it totally fits his work. I actually would have liked it to have been longer, to flesh out some of the unexplained bits. The surprise reveal was not really a surprise, thought. Theron was so obvious the first time they met that something was not right, it kind of gave away the middle part of the movie.

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Reply #33 on: January 24, 2009, 03:13:27 AM

This movie sucked ass.

The action sequences were awful. Terrible effects. The catchphrase ("Call me crazy one more time!") was retarded and grating. It had way too many MEANINGFUL LOOKS BETWEEN CHARACTERS WHO ARE OSTENSIBLY STRANGERSl Seriously it had about ten minutes of meaningful looks in it. Real subtle there guys.

The plot itself was fucking retarded. Two characters get weaker when they are close together so when one is injured the other one - sidles up right next to them. Brilliant. The big reveal was tepid.

Parts of it were comedy, parts of it were absurdly melodramatic, then straight action. It felt like the typical studio meddling shit of "ok we need a funny scene. Ok now we need a scene for all the girls that were brought to the movie as dates. Ok now a scene for all the guys who brought those girls."

Totally incoherent mess. I honestly don't understand how anyone could watch it with anything but a combination of boredom and disgust.

The very basic premise of a drunk, irresponsible super-hero was great but they did nothing with it.

Also I think Charlize Theron is kinda ugly. (Her knees are too sharp!)

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Reply #34 on: January 24, 2009, 09:13:35 PM

Also I think Charlize Theron is kinda ugly. (Her knees are too sharp!)

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