Blizz to Exploiters "F U"

[Morfiend]

So, it seems a whole bunch of people on my server where using some sort of exploit to level really fast. I think it had to do with one of the instances but I am not sure. I didnt ask for details. Anyway, it seems that Blizzard is aware of the problem and taking steps.

Quite a lot of people got a 3 day ban on Thursday and Friday. One guild that did it very heavily had 80% of their members banned, and even had their levels rolled back to 70. It remains to been seen if ever one who got banned will be rolled back or not.

Good job Blizz.

/clap

[K9]

I think it works something like:

1) Enter instance with group
2) Leave group
3) Tag as many mobs as possible, group AoEs them down and heals you
4) Rejoin group before the 1-min kick timer hits zero
5) Goto 1

[Fordel]

The best part about all this, is people were doing that to get the "Server's First 80 <class>" achievements.

Too bad for them   

[Kail]

I think it works something like:

1) Enter instance with group
2) Leave group
3) Tag as many mobs as possible, group AoEs them down and heals you
4) Rejoin group before the 1-min kick timer hits zero
5) Goto 1

Is that seriously a bannable exploit?  I thought people had been doing that for years.

[Fordel]

I think it works something like:

1) Enter instance with group
2) Leave group
3) Tag as many mobs as possible, group AoEs them down and heals you
4) Rejoin group before the 1-min kick timer hits zero
5) Goto 1

Is that seriously a bannable exploit?  I thought people had been doing that for years.

They've been banned for that for years too, its just big news because of the new achievements.

[Venkman]

Apparently this was fixed years ago but then unfixed in beta without having been refixed. And a whole bunch of people realized that.

What they DIDN'T realize was that Blizzard didn't also unfix their datamonitoring tools 

[Brolan]

Apparently this was fixed years ago but then unfixed in beta without having been refixed. And a whole bunch of people realized that.

What they DIDN'T realize was that Blizzard didn't also unfix their datamonitoring tools 

I thought it was common knowledge that MMO devs watch the extreme performers for evidence of exploits?  That's the easiest way to find them.

[tissa]

So, it seems a whole bunch of people on my server where using some sort of exploit to level really fast. I think it had to do with one of the instances but I am not sure. I didnt ask for details. Anyway, it seems that Blizzard is aware of the problem and taking steps.

Quite a lot of people got a 3 day ban on Thursday and Friday. One guild that did it very heavily had 80% of their members banned, and even had their levels rolled back to 70. It remains to been seen if ever one who got banned will be rolled back or not.

Good job Blizz.

/clap

Yeah from all signs they were exploiting instances and their timers. Personally I detest people that are so poor of players that they are willing to cheat hack and exploit to be the best, because to me that is not the Best... the best can do it with in the rules.

I give props to the guild and players that bust their balls to get to the top and be server first when they do it the old fashion way... I just laughed my ass off when the qq's about this hit the forum. All the QQ'ers, but it is not fair to ban for this... we didn't do anything that the game didn't allow us to do. *giggles*

[Cheddar]

Yeah from all signs they were exploiting instances and their timers. Personally I detest people that are so poor of players that they are willing to cheat hack and exploit to be the best, because to me that is not the Best... the best can do it with in the rules.

I give props to the guild and players that bust their balls to get to the top and be server first when they do it the old fashion way... I just laughed my ass off when the qq's about this hit the forum. All the QQ'ers, but it is not fair to ban for this... we didn't do anything that the game didn't allow us to do. *giggles*

Who the fuck are you?

[WindupAtheist]

On one hand, do we really have to ritually murder every newbie who wanders in here? On the other hand they did use "QQ" without irony, so I don't know.

[Xerapis]

On the other hand, they DID giggle, so I have to give them +1 gay point for that 

[Ragnoros]

Welcomed by Cheddar and WUA. 

[Lantyssa]

On the other hand, they DID giggle, so I have to give them +1 gay point for that 

If the name is any indicator, I don't think your point award is valid.

*giggle*

See?  No point for me. 

[apocrypha]

And    is such an appropriate emoticon for the f13 welcoming committee 

[Xerapis]

Yeah, but if I judged by name or avatar, I'd have gotten a lot of y'alls genders/orientations/etc wrong 

We'll make it a probationary gay point for "tissa"

And +1 adorable red panda point for Lantyssa


and NO, dear newbies, we don't actually have a point system here...this is a disclaimer so Schild doesn't smite me

[Wasted]

Is this is the same tactic that Athene used to make his powerleveling record?

[Yoshimaru]

Yep, and the same one that got him banned and reset to 70.

[tissa]

Who the fuck are you?

I am Tissa or would you prefer a full bio?  Either way thanks for the welcome. =)

[Koyasha]

I don't understand this.  Do instance mobs somehow behave differently than outdoor mobs in their exp distribution when tagged by one person but mostly killed by others?  Cause typically if this happens, the person who tagged gets to loot, and a little exp, but it's a tiny percentage of what they normally get.

Also, banning for this is bloody retarded.  This PLing tactic has been around since forever.  Back in EQ it was having one person fire off an AE to do at least one point of damage to all mobs, then allow them to suicide on a damage shield.  City of Mist was great for this since the skeletons didn't run, and they didn't have a standard agro table, they just hit whatever was closest.

Banning for exploitation of bugs, such as duping or mobs that don't fight back or whatever is one thing.  Banning for figuring out the most effective way to use exp allocation mechanics to funnel exp to one player is retarded.  The mobs aren't being killed via an exploit, and everyone involved is willingly giving up the exp they would be gaining to the player being powerleveled.  No one is taking advantage of anyone.

[Dewdrop]

I don't understand this.  Do instance mobs somehow behave differently than outdoor mobs in their exp distribution when tagged by one person but mostly killed by others?  Cause typically if this happens, the person who tagged gets to loot, and a little exp, but it's a tiny percentage of what they normally get.

Elite mobs in instances grant more xp, but its usually shared amongst the 5 people. If you are the only person in the group, you get ALL the xp and you can do this repeatedly in certain instances that have weak hitting non-caster mobs.  The tap on the mobs is assigned to the group, too, so the person getting powerleveled, afaik, doesn't even have to tap the mobs. They just need to be the leader of the group and, thus, the last person IN the group when it disbands to get the full hit of XP. It something like 3000+ xp/kill, and in an instance like Utgarge Keep you can kill them so fast it really adds up. Clear UK twice, get a level..

Disclaimer: I could be wrong on the mechanics, this is how I understood it to work based on what I've read recently.

[Oban]

Do they get to keep their achievements for getting server firsts?

[Nebu]

A 3 day ban is "FU"? 

Give them a character and bank wipe. If you're not going to send a real message, don't bother. 

[Cheddar]

On one hand, do we really have to ritually murder every newbie who wanders in here?

u r 2 cute.   


I am the champion of noobs, but come on.  Giving props to catassery? QQ?

[Nevermore]

Who the fuck are you?

I am Tissa or would you prefer a full bio?  Either way thanks for the welcome. =)

No you aren't.  You're tissa.  You couldn't be arsed to use the shift key when coming up with a forum name.

[Reg]

I didn't think our stringent capitalization standards applied to forum names. I imagine this comes as a surprise to apocrypha as well.

[UnSub]

I didn't think our stringent capitalization standards applied to forum names. I imagine this comes as a surprise to apocrypha as well.

A lot of new sign-ups appeared unable to use the shift key on the first letter of their nic. That had a strong correlation with low quality first posts and ergo long-term survival.

[Reg]

The capitalization in tissa's posts has been fine. The only place where it hasn't been done is in his/her forum name.

The instant hostility towards newcomers from some of the veteran posters here is a little much.

[kildorn]

Who the fuck are you?

I am Tissa or would you prefer a full bio?  Either way thanks for the welcome. =)

No you aren't.  You're tissa.  You couldn't be arsed to use the shift key when coming up with a forum name.

That hurts. :(

[Nevermore]

The capitalization in tissa's posts has been fine. The only place where it hasn't been done is in his/her forum name.

The instant hostility towards newcomers from some of the veteran posters here is a little much.

Oh please.  Ironwood hasn't even called this new person a cunt yet.

[NiX]

The instant hostility towards newcomers from some of the veteran posters here is a little much.

Almost like being instantly kick/banned from IRC upon joining the channel. Just cause.

[Ironwood]

Actually, I'm with Reg.  You're all a little hostile.

[Oban]

Actually, I'm with Reg.  You're all a little hostile.

[apocrypha]

No you aren't.  You're tissa.  You couldn't be arsed to use the shift key when coming up with a forum name.

I deliberately left the first letter of my forum name lower case just because I like the look of the word like that.... is that more or less douchey than doing it out of laziness? 

edit: Where'd that ] go?

[Jayce]

 

It wasn't a particularly retarded first post.  Lowercase nick has precedent.  *giggles* is permissible depending on gender/orientation.

Judgment for the defendant!!

[Rasix]

On one hand, do we really have to ritually murder every newbie who wanders in here?

u r 2 cute.   


I am the champion of noobs, but come on.  Giving props to catassery? QQ?

Who the fuck are you? We've seen a lot worse in the very recent past. If you have a problem with what they said, respond to that rather than go with the "RAWRRR NEW MEAT" schtick.