Lost [FINALE SPOILERS PAGE 25 ONWARDS]

[Paelos]

To be honest, that last episode bored the crap out me until people started dying. It basically told you nothing you didn't already know. What did we learn exactly from all this crap except the fact that Locke is alive on the island in the future with all the future people? Whitmoore and Ben are still dicking everybody over because they had a powerplay on the island? That's a small revelation at best that we inferred from seeing Whitmoore as a kid on the island. That Ben offed Locke? Like we didn't see that one coming a mile away.

I didn't really like it because it went nowhere. We knew what Locke was doing, we knew why, we knew he got back, we knew he was dead, and we knew the people got back on the island. If we have to suffer through more of the POV-of-the-same-timespan crap, I'm just going to stop watching until it all comes out on video and I can fast forward.

[Ozzu]

Sweet mother. Tonight's episode rocked.

The statue had very long hair. It almost looked womanly from the back, but it also had pointy ears. 

[Abagadro]

Conjecture is that it was of the Egyptian god Anubis, part man, part jackal.

[Rishathra]

Juliet deserves better than to be everyone's fallback romance option.  Please, Sawyer, don't be an asshole like Jack and leave her twisting at the first sight of Kate's smile.

[Quinton]

Sweet mother. Tonight's episode rocked.

Yeah this was a lot of fun.  I hope we get to spend a couple episodes back in Dharma time.  I wonder whenabouts Young Ben Linus shows up in this timeline.... ^^

[Tebonas]

The only negative thing about this episode is my rising dread that there will be another goddamn love triangle involving Kate. Enough of those already!

[HaemishM]

Agreed about the love triangle, and the awesomeness of the episode.

Trying to figure out the timelines - they are in 1974. Most likely Ben and his dad are already on the island, which means there is probably about 15 years before Ben ganks all the Dharma folks (didn't he do it on his 21st birthday). Horace has appeared before, building Jacob's shack, and appeared to be in a time loop then.

[Samwise]

All the time travel might end up ironing out some of the inexplicable stuff that's been getting chalked up as fantasy.  If all the main characters are back in the Dharma days they're in a very good position to set up just about anything weird that happened in the first few seasons.

[Johny Cee]

Juliet deserves better than to be everyone's fallback romance option. 

Juliet is awesome.  A great, great character:  cool, calm, massively competent, very attractive in a mature and unselfconscious manner.  

She and Ben are the best characters on the show....  though new, improved Sawyer is close behind.

[Kirth]

Agreed about the love triangle, and the awesomeness of the episode.

Trying to figure out the timelines - they are in 1974. Most likely Ben and his dad are already on the island, which means there is probably about 15 years before Ben ganks all the Dharma folks (didn't he do it on his 21st birthday). Horace has appeared before, building Jacob's shack, and appeared to be in a time loop then.

1974 is when they first encounter the dharma people. I believe currently they are in 1977. Horace in a time loop was a dream, or a actual time loop who knows 

Ban gassed dharma in the early 90's . so the time adds up I spose.

[Paelos]

Everyone is terribly broken on this show, and somehow they all fit "logically" according to the authors. I don't believe any of that personally. I like where the show has gone so far with this season, but I'm hoping they stop showing us what we already know. It's getting old. If I can boil an entire one hour show into 2 sentences, and nobody loses a step, that's a failure in my book.

[raydeen]

It's going to be interesting to see who from the cast end up being the corpses in the caves with the backgammon game. If my memory isn't too fuzzy, they found male and female skeletons in the caves with what I assume was the backgammon set Locke and Michael were playing with in season 1. I had an inkling that time travel was going to be a factor at that point. Seemed like too much of a coincidence that right after Locke is playing backgammon that they also find backgammon pieces on the corpses.

[Abagadro]

Probably Bernard and Rose.

[Morfiend]

This season has just blown me away. I was to the point of about dropping the show 2 seasons ago. Last season really picked it up, and this season has been awesome. I am glad they ditched the "focus on one character's past or future thing", as I think that has allowed them to really get more done in an episode.

[Rishathra]

I like the New and Improved Sawyer.  Particularly when he dropped the well-deserved hammer on Jack.

[Soln]

I think someone said earlier that the Producers never had any plan to keep Jack as a character -- so I guess Sawyer as the man was always in the cards.

[tazelbain]

Still not as good as season 4 but I expect that to change once the shit hits the fan.

[Arthur_Parker]

Sawyer and Kate batting eyelids at each other is going to get old fast, but I'm enjoying the whole time line thing.

[Ozzu]

I like the New and Improved Sawyer.  Particularly when he dropped the well-deserved hammer on Jack.

This.

It was about time someone did a good job of smacking him around a little bit.

[Morfiend]

Sawyer and Kate batting eyelids at each other is going to get old fast, but I'm enjoying the whole time line thing.

I can't wait for Juliet to put Kate in her place next episode.

[Ozzu]

I can't wait for Juliet to put Kate in her place next episode.

I'm looking forward to that as well.

Speaking of next week, from the preview, it seems as though all hell breaks loose.

[tazelbain]

WTF does Jack care, he's glad someone (who isn't insane) is stepping up.  Sawyer isn't going to have much time bask in the glory of tell Jack to STFU.

[March]

Time travel as a mysterious force operating in the background is one thing.

Actually pulling off a time travel tale on a television series...

...in an era where the writers read their own fan sites and change the stories to confound the viewers?

I'm not so sure.

I fully expect that by the end of the series, we will have discovered Rambaldi's remains on the Slaver shipwreck and a secret crypto device that is continuously broadcasting (via 15th century technology) a repeating series of numbers... 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 ... that are the key to activating another Rambaldi device that the Russians built on 1954 and which looks suspiciously like an A-bomb, but is really an H2O molecule exciter that will boil the ocean if it is activated at the Orchid.  In the final episode, Sidney will parachute into the Dharma compound (wearing only a cocktail dress) to kill Kate, who is really her grandmother and working for the Russians.  The only one left standing will be Jack Bristoe (aka Jacob) the evil genius.

fade to black.

[EWSpider]

Sawyer and Kate batting eyelids at each other is going to get old fast, but I'm enjoying the whole time line thing.

I can't wait for Juliet to put Kate in her place next episode.

I was amused when Juliet left Kate off the passenger list only to swoop in at the last second and "save" her.  That was a serious "don't fuck with me" right there.

[Johny Cee]

Time travel as a mysterious force operating in the background is one thing.

Actually pulling off a time travel tale on a television series...

...in an era where the writers read their own fan sites and change the stories to confound the viewers?

I'm not so sure.

There are some nice indications that the story has been adequately planned out from fairly early on.... 

The latest:
- Sawyer and Kate are building a runway at the beginning of season 3,  which is what the plane lands on in season 5.
- Juliet lives at Dharma in the past, where a young Ben Linus also lives.  In one of the Juliet centric episodes from 3/4, someone comments on Ben having a crush on Juliet by saying "She looks just like her" and nothing else.  Is an adolescent crush on time-traveller Juliet the reason why he has the Season 3/4 Juliet fixation?
- The dude in the communications center this past episode is the guy that killed himself in the hatch, right before Desmond shows up.

[Johny Cee]

Sawyer and Kate batting eyelids at each other is going to get old fast, but I'm enjoying the whole time line thing.

I can't wait for Juliet to put Kate in her place next episode.

I was amused when Juliet left Kate off the passenger list only to swoop in at the last second and "save" her.  That was a serious "don't fuck with me" right there.

This was clever, and very ambiguous.  When Juliet picks up the list,  she's told that only two people had refused to take the sedatives.

That means that it could have been that Juliet had to do far more paperwork to fake Kate onto the sub.  Or it could just be Juliet firing a warning shot, to stop Kate from fucking up another of her romances.

Juliet is canny enough, and devious enough, to pull off the later.  She's been portrayed as pretty goddamn ruthless though (she might have the highest body count of killed in cold blood, next to Ben), so if the scheme occured to her why didn't she just fuck it up to the point where Kate is screwed?

Hmm.  I think I just implied Juliet screws Kate....  I'll be in my bunk.

[tazelbain]

So the Island isn't killing pregnant woman and their babies.  Probably whatever was released from the Tempest is doing it.

[Cheddar]

Fucking awesome.

I have a bad feeling Sawyer is the start of the downfall for the Dharma folk. 

[Paelos]

Sawyer's cool, Kate's back, and Juliet's gonna go horribly nuts.

Still, this episode is completely forgettable. Oceanic three get into Dharma through Sawyer's lies, and Sayid gets tossed in jail. That was it. Fade to fucking black. Absolutely nothing happened yet again. For basically the 3rd time in a row.

[Abagadro]

There were quite a lot of reveals and character movements in this ep actually (Ethan, what happened to the plane, Sun/Ben/Christian, Radzinsky, the Swan, Sawyer/Jack showdown, Jack/Juliet showdown, Kate/Juliet showdown).

Hurley's "uh, wut?" made the ep worth it just by itself.

[March]

Time travel as a mysterious force operating in the background is one thing.

Actually pulling off a time travel tale on a television series...

...in an era where the writers read their own fan sites and change the stories to confound the viewers?

I'm not so sure.

There are some nice indications that the story has been adequately planned out from fairly early on.... 

I hope so, since I enjoy the show.

My point is that Time Travel (more so than, say, your average lusty-action-soap) requires razor sharp writing and editing to keep us all from turning into heaps'o'Hurley - uh, wut?

I'm simply not convinced that the current TV milieu will ignore the interwebs and deliver a coherent story.  The temptation is too great, and past habits already indicate a weakness.

[Paelos]

There were quite a lot of reveals and character movements in this ep actually (Ethan, what happened to the plane, Sun/Ben/Christian, Radzinsky, the Swan, Sawyer/Jack showdown, Jack/Juliet showdown, Kate/Juliet showdown).

Hurley's "uh, wut?" made the ep worth it just by itself.

I'm getting worn out by character movements though. That's all well and good but you actually have to have an advancing story involved. This entire episode could be described as buildup to some future event. That's shitty. We've done that before in the second season as they went through backstory after backstory while the plot went absolutely nowhere. It's happening again in my book. The actual revelations/actions/deaths are few and far between.

EDIT: I'll say this as well, it's not just me who is getting tired of lack of momentum in the middle. They dropped ~4M viewers over the last 3 episodes. People are getting bored of character interplay. "Namaste" was the lowest number of viewers they've ever had at 9M.

[EWSpider]

Yeah, I have to say that while a Juliet vs Kate showdown has been building up for a while I'm completely bored with the whole love triangle square with Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Juliet.  Kate went from a somewhat interesting character to just being plain irritating to me.

[Paelos]

Yeah, I have to say that while a Juliet vs Kate showdown has been building up for a while I'm completely bored with the whole love triangle square with Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Juliet.  Kate went from a somewhat interesting character to just being plain irritating to me.

I want Jack and Kate dead. They both irritate the shit out of me. Jack is a moron, and I'm shocked anybody would actually pay attention to anything he says. Also, writers should look to House on how to create a character that's a doctor with a substance abuse issue and a haunted past. Kate just won't go away. Her character has run it's course beyond just being an obstacle for the more interesting characters of Sawyer and Juliet.

[Signe]

I wouldn't mind Jack so much if they made him way more angsty and dark.   As they un-dark Sawyer, why not dark the shit out of Jack?  He's even got a decent face for it when he's gone all scruffy.   Not totally in love with the new Sawyer, either, but I reckon he's in transition and maybe it'll work out ok.  Kate can go any time.  Now or even sooner.  I start to yawn when it even looks as if it's going to be a Kate moment.  This show is addicting even when I don't know what the hell is going on.