Lost [FINALE SPOILERS PAGE 25 ONWARDS]

[Ozzu]

Fucking-a awesome episode.

[Teleku]

Awesome Episodes so far.  God I love this show.

[Jobu]

...leads me to believe that he will get banished from the island at some point and he spends all these years attempting to get back. That explains his motivation in a way. We'll see I guess.

With his kind of weird rivalry/standoff with Ben, and the lines of dialogue he had ("You think he knows the Island better than me?") it feels like they're setting it up for him to have a kind of deluded sense of entitlement that he's being groomed or chosen to be the new leader, then that gets yanked away from him and he's all pissy to get back and take back what is rightfully his from those know-nothing idiots.

[ashrik]

Oh FuckShit Jin!

[Evil Elvis]

Oh FuckShit Jin!

[Rishathra]

Kate cleans up nice.

[Xerapis]

Thank you Lord!

I TAKE THAT BACK!

[Teleku]

Haha, was just about to post that myself.

Decent episode, not to much plot or secret exposure, just mainly set up.  Though the end was great (I knew Jin was still alive!!). 

My theory is that the boat they took belonged to Ben/Jack/Sayed and group from when they finally get back on the island.  Jack probably is the one who gets shot  .

And yes, fuck it, no more spoiler tags.  This is a god damn lost discussion thread.  If anybody was afraid of spoilers, they wouldn't be in here.

[Ozzu]

Good episode. Season 5 has been pretty fast paced thus far. My biggest question is who the hell was shooting at them while they were in the boat? I guess it could be "the Others", but I figure we'll probably never know for sure since it doesn't seem as though they have repeat visits to the same time.

[ashrik]

Here's my guess- it was themselves shooting at them because they're about to go shit the space/time bed.

Also: The lawyer for Oceanic works for Ben? Perhaps Ben/Others are members or owners of the Oceanic plane? Perhaps, they bought it only after the crash? I imagine that those with the power of The Island can use it to build quite a stash for themselves as they flit backwards and forwards through time.

I'm going to guess that Charles Widmore used it to amass quite a bit of personal wealth and was kicked off The Island for his greed. Perhaps "what's done is done" only applies to some things and not others. Anyways, now that Widmore has a good chunk of the Philosopher's Legacy or whatever you want to call his time travel fortune, he's trying to use it to get back to The Island and reassume control. Control that maybe is "rightfully" his.

Since he's already sitting on a boatload of cash, I'll guess that he doesn't just want it to make more of it. There has to be something greater at stake that Island control will give him. Immortality, by way of constantly going to the past? Some greater function that we haven't really been clued in on yet? Maybe it is simply to be able to go back and steer the course of humanity.

Are The Others interested in the same thing, or just in keeping Widmore's hands off of it?

[Abagadro]

The lawyer for Oceanic works for Ben

That wasn't Oceanic's lawyer, that was Claire's mom's lawyer who was suing Oceanic and also Ben's lawyer.

[Quinton]

Ben remains my absolute favorite character on the show.  I feel certain that, in the end, I'm not going to get a satisfying explanation as to exactly why he does what he does, but goddamn I enjoy the hell out of his neverending scheming bastardry.  Every now and again he skates the edge of being a sympathetic character, which just adds to the fun.

"I always have a plan, John."

[kaid]

I just cannot understand why somebody has not capped ben yet. There comes a point when all the characters have to realize that nothing good has ever come from listening to a word he says no matter how good it may have looked in the short term it always turns to poop.

[Ozzu]

I just cannot understand why somebody has not capped ben yet. There comes a point when all the characters have to realize that nothing good has ever come from listening to a word he says no matter how good it may have looked in the short term it always turns to poop.

They seem to have a common goal with him now though. Some of them might not know it yet, but they do. So, it's in their best interest to listen to what he has to say until they actually get back to the island.

[AngryGumball]

I somehow believed that Ben was being redeemed for the good of the island with his removal from it and being the wetwork man along with Saeed. Then to help get the others back onto the island to continue his redemption

[Ozzu]

Another excellent episode last night. I knew something had to be up with Charlotte and her growing up on the island makes some sense. The fact that she remembers Farraday warning her not to come back is interesting as well.

As I've said before, Locke's story and his character are by far my favorite. Well, the next episode is entitled "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham". I can't wait to see exactly what happens when he exits the island. Not only is his leg broken, but if I had to guess, I would think he'd be back in a wheelchair. Another curious thing about what we see of him turning the wheel is that the wheel was off its axis a little. I wonder if that's why the island was jumping?

[HaemishM]

Lots of good in this episode. We finally got an explanation for what the black smoke is - it just isn't the explanation we wanted. "A security system for that temple" really just makes me even more interested in the damn thing. I keep wondering if they are going to jump in time back to the pirate ship landing. That would be awesome, but probably won't happen.

Looks like Ben is really going to try going back with or without the full compliment. The season just keeps getting better.

[ashrik]

I'm pretty sure we've been told the security system bit a few seasons ago, what was new to me was that the temple and smokey had a hand in making Danielle and company go crazy.

Does that peek at the wall with the hieroglyphics also mark our first view of the temple?

[HaemishM]

I don't remember ever seeing the temple before, and based on Jin's reactions, I don't think he'd seen it either.

[Abagadro]

It's been referred to a "security system" since the first season when Rousseau called it that. I believe it was again called that in third season when both Mikhail Bakunin and Juliet called it that when they were dealing with the sonic barrier.  This is the first time it has been referred to as a security system for "the temple" that I can recall.

[Paelos]

Jin being alive rules. Also, the blond chick with the gun in Richard's camp was a little naughty hottie. If these people would stop shooting at each other long enough, they could open a modelling agency on that island.

[HaemishM]

Also, the blond chick with the gun in Richard's camp was a little naughty hottie.

A little too for my tastes.

[ashrik]

Yeah, she was past her prime but that's alright enough for me.

Any possibility of her being Mrs. Hawking or any other character known to us?

[Paelos]

Yeah, she was past her prime but that's alright enough for me.

Any possibility of her being Mrs. Hawking or any other character known to us?

In my mind, it's a guarantee that miss blonde hottie is Faraday's mother. In that flashback they called her "Ellie". Faraday's mother is Eloise Hawking. Which brings up so much more comedy that she was holding a gun to her own future son's head.

[Teleku]

I was fucking floored that they actually, FINALLY went back and tried to give an explanation of the "sickness" that Rousseau talked about.  I thought it was an idea they had in the 1st/2nd season that just never came to be and they abandoned.   Pretty cool explanation for what she was talking about, actually, and now I want to know WTF is in that temple.  Also, Why does Jakes father appear to be Jacob?  Yesh.

The season has been great so far.  Ever since they hammered down a set time for when the series needs to be completed by (and shorted the number of episodes in the season) the quality has flown up exponetially.  God I wish we could get more single season or 'mini-series' in the US.  At least HBO seems to be making good ones.

Is it sad that I'm somewhat depressed that I'll miss tomorrows episode, because I'll be out drinking/clubbing in SF with a very hot red heading bi-sexual French Chick?

Don't answer that.

[Ironwood]

I'm liking where Lost is taking us.

One thing that strikes me is that they either have rather neat writers, or they knew roughly where they were going for a while.

[schild]

One thing that strikes me is that they either have rather neat writers, or they knew roughly where they were going for a while.

They knew where they were going for exactly 3 episodes. After that it was darts thrown at a Jump to Conclusions mat. They probably just watched all the old episodes and are closing things up because they ran out of squares.

[Ironwood]

I'm still impressed with it.  I would get into an argument with you, but I think I'd have to be Reg.

[Reg]

I've really traumatized you over in the Star Trek thread haven't I? Good. 

[Ironwood]

Not so much.  You're just a reference point.  Like, if I was going to cut Schild's post into stupid chunks, it'd be Sirbrucing.  Or if I was going to make what appears to be a really sweet comment that's actually a total removal of your manhood that you wouldn't understand for weeks, it'd be Signeing.  Or making it all about Republican awesomeness, as a Triforcing.

 

[Reg]

Ah cool. We all have our little internet routines and as they go mine isn't so bad. I can live with it anyway.

[HaemishM]

Not so much.  You're just a reference point.  Like, if I was going to cut Schild's post into stupid chunks, it'd be Sirbrucing.  Or if I was going to make what appears to be a really sweet comment that's actually a total removal of your manhood that you wouldn't understand for weeks, it'd be Signeing.  Or making it all about Republican awesomeness, as a Triforcing.

 

So would calling everyone cunts in one-line be termed an Ironwoody?

[Rishathra]

While calling a specific person a cunt for several lines would be a Haemishmash?

Edit: wrong name

[Evil Elvis]

You just know that letter says something like, "If you're reading this, Ben killed me.  Don't listen to that motherfucker!'

Edit: guess not :/

[ashrik]

The entire time, I was like "so what about all the other assholes in coach?" and then Ben gave his line and I  'd

You know, they've had the definite end of the series known for what? A year and a half now? I like to think they've got the barebones of a plot fleshed out already.

And if not? I realize that I don't give a shit. The ride is well worth it, even if it doesn't end in some life-changing loopdaloop.