Game of Thrones [SPOILERS]

[HaemishM]

I don't know if she's a bad actress, but Sansa does get all the whingiest lines.

[MisterNoisy]

So how much time was supposed to pass between them sending Gendry running to Eastwatch and Daenarys coming to their rescue?

No idea, but the show made it look like Gendry is the original Flash and both ravens and dragons are capable of supersonic flight.

[Samwise]

I was annoyed at how fucking convenient it was that after that little skirmish with the undead that ended with a bunch of them exploding there was exactly one of them left standing so they could all comically dogpile it.

Also lest we forget, if Dany had just flown up there with them in the first place (LIKE WOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUSLY VERY HELPFUL), they could have grabbed a wight and gotten the fuck out of there before the Night King knew what was going on.

[Speedy Cerviche]

Bah, all your cynical motherfuckers just can't enjoy a goddamn thing. I'm loving this season.

The travel times are beyond ridiculous - deal with it. If they actually dealt with the travel times in any remotely realistic manner you'd complain about how slow it is and how padded out it is. And it would be. That was actually one of the complaints of first season - it took like 5 episodes to get from Winterfell to King's Landing. Was it realistic? Yes. Was it great storytelling - meh.

Yeah I agree with this. Maybe they had wasted too much time earlier, but the reality was the whole story is reaching it's climax very quickly and they only had 14 episodes to bring together all kinds of story arcs, characters and loose ends as well as show the climatic moments. Things were going to have to move quickly.

One other thing that's bugging me, is Sophie Turner the worse actress on this show by far? Holy fuck I can't stand her whining.

I find most of the acting to be pretty crap but gotta keep in mind these were mostly child actors. The only main character performance that stuck out to me was Dinklage who does a great job of earnestly trying to serve and looks so wounded when all these conversations end with him getting chewed out with his loyalty and competence questioned when things go wrong.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Bah, all your cynical motherfuckers just can't enjoy a goddamn thing. I'm loving this season.

The travel times are beyond ridiculous - deal with it. If they actually dealt with the travel times in any remotely realistic manner you'd complain about how slow it is and how padded out it is. And it would be. That was actually one of the complaints of first season - it took like 5 episodes to get from Winterfell to King's Landing. Was it realistic? Yes. Was it great storytelling - meh.

Yeah I agree with this. Maybe they had wasted too much time earlier, but the reality was the whole story is reaching it's climax very quickly and they only had 14 episodes to bring together all kinds of story arcs, characters and loose ends as well as show the climatic moments. Things were going to have to move quickly.

One other thing that's bugging me, is Sophie Turner the worse actress on this show by far? Holy fuck I can't stand her whining.

I find most of the acting to be pretty crap but gotta keep in mind these were mostly child actors. The only main character performance that stuck out to me was Dinklage who does a great job of earnestly trying to serve and looks so wounded when all these conversations end with him getting chewed out with his loyalty and competence questioned when things go wrong.

To be fair, everything since Tyrion took the job has been a total shitshow for team dragon.

[MrHat]

Christ, I could listen to the actor playing Beric narrate anything. That dude's voice is smooth.

[jgsugden]

Although the distance beyond the wall that the warband traveled is ambiguous, it was certainly at least a few hours - 4?.  The distance from Easternwatch to Dragonstone is about 1900 miles per book maps.  If the ravens flew at 50 to 60 miles per hour that would be between 30 and 40 hours of flight.  Then, unless Dani is going to be torn up by the wind, she can't fly back at more than about 75 MPH, so that would be another 20 to 25 hours.  All in all, if everything is perfectly sequential, we'd be saying a little over 2 days.

Of course, that is all irrelevant.  Bran can see the past and future.  Obviously, he sent the Raven to Dani before John went beyond the wall.  They just showed the scenes out of order and left out Bran sending the message.  By the time they encountered the undead bear, Dani was already mounting up.  By the time they were trapped on the island in the lake, Dani was halfway there. 

At least that is how I choose to believe it took place.

[Brolan]

"A wizard did it."

[Samwise]

Leaving aside any other magic powers he might have, Bran being able to receive information instantaneously across large distances should be a major strategic game-changer in this war.

[jgsugden]

Leaving aside any other magic powers he might have, Bran being able to receive information instantaneously across large distances should be a major strategic game-changer in this war.

Why?  Apparently everyone with a raven can do it.

[eldaec]

Hah - that made absolutely no sense but we're all the way through the looking glass now so who cares. I smiled almost all the way through it despite myself.


Gendry he just craaazy!

Bears!

Bros stopping in pairs to have meaningful conversations in front of a green screen because writing for 3 is hard!

Lightsabres!

Guys without names getting eaten!

Tyrion going slowly bonkers because nothing anyone does makes any sense!

Completely original zombie mechanic!

Least significant named character dies!

Tormund saved by status as only remaining named wildling!

Ice that can't take the weight of zombies.... Fuck that it can now!

Supersonic ravens!

Dragons!

Oh shit zombies have pre-prepared surface to air munitions!

Ice Dragons!

Suddenly Benjen for no goddamn reason!

Clegane bowl is on!

Brienne and Jamie in the same town!


The only part I failed to enjoy was Sansa/Arya/Littlefinger. That was just annoying.

[HaemishM]

Honestly, of all the things that just didn't make a lot of sense with the zombie fight was how many redshirts just seemed to keep popping up. I didn't bother counting (and it probably wouldn't have mattered if I did) but I don't think they took more than 10 people total, which meant 3 redshirts and I swear there were at least 5 dead redshirts besides Loras at the end.

[Amarr HM]

Bit of dragon glass might have come in handy there, if only they had some.

[eldaec]

I just looked, the first shot has exactly 10 dudes in a wide shot of the whole party. Jon, Gendry, Tormund, Hound, Beric, Thoros, Friendzone leaves room for 3 red shirts who are given a total of zero lines and whose faces appear on screen a combined total of no times to establish their existence before they get eaten.

I got confused when the bear ate a guy we apparently didn't know - assumed it was a passing wildling at first.

Quality writing.

[HaemishM]

Bit of dragon glass might have come in handy there, if only they had some.

I think Ser Friendzone was using some dragonglass daggers - the rest didn't seem to have them but really should have.

[Amarr HM]

Not like they didn't have time to forge a bunch of makeshift dragon glass weapons before they left, would have only take about five minutes in the current time scales.

[eldaec]

Why the everloving fuck does this family keep referencing my sartorial choices during peak trauma moments?

https://imgur.com/gallery/W4LOw

[IainC]

Not like they didn't have time to forge a bunch of makeshift dragon glass weapons before they left, would have only take about five minutes in the current time scales.

Jon had a Valyrian sword, Thoros and Beric had fiery magic, Jorah had two dragonglass daggers, the Hound had a doubleheaded dragonglass axe and Tormund had a dragonglass handaxe. I don't remember what Gendry had apart form his hammer because he was already running back to Eastwatch when they did the (very brief) montage of people unshipping their anti-Wight weapons for the big fight.

[Samwise]

Why the everloving fuck does this family keep referencing my sartorial choices during peak trauma moments?

https://imgur.com/gallery/W4LOw

Maybe they want this to drag on.

 

[Threash]

That about sums up this season.

[Samwise]

That about sums up this season.

Dragonstone really is nowhere the fuck near the North or the Wall, is it.   

[Amarr HM]

Jon had a Valyrian sword, Thoros and Beric had fiery magic, Jorah had two dragonglass daggers, the Hound had a doubleheaded dragonglass axe and Tormund had a dragonglass handaxe. I don't remember what Gendry had apart form his hammer because he was already running back to Eastwatch when they did the (very brief) montage of people unshipping their anti-Wight weapons for the big fight.

I knew John had the Valyrian sword, but wasn't sure about the others. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Shannow]

Why the everloving fuck does this family keep referencing my sartorial choices during peak trauma moments?

https://imgur.com/gallery/W4LOw

Maybe they want this to drag on.

 

This has become my favourite part of Monday.

[Amarr HM]

Christ, I could listen to the actor playing Beric narrate anything. That dude's voice is smooth.

You should check out another show called Fortitude, if you haven't already. He's epic in that.

[Tale]

The best part of the episode was the banter between Tormund and The Hound, especially about Brienne. The ending was far too predictable, from the moment of the spear throw.

[Khaldun]

Just basically this: the showrunners are great at doing a better second draft on Martin's first draft. They're fucking *terrible* at doing a first draft from a few sketches on a napkin.

[Rasix]

Between this and Defenders, I'm at peak lazy TV writing.

My friend at work was all hyped to discuss the episode today. I'm afraid I kind of dashed his enthusiasm after only a few minutes.  But in the end, he did agree that this season has been pretty low effort outside of the dragon assaults.

It's fun, but it's all just incredibly dumb. The major actors all kind of look like they're sick of being there.

[schild]

*snort*

[Khaldun]

I got motivated today in a discussion with friends. It took me all of ten minutes to think of a better 7-episode outline with most of the same plot beats and basic showcase scenes that didn't require a single fucking "let's do something really dumb" plot idea to get there--and it wouldn't cost anything different than what this cost them.

These guys were only good when they were polishing a second draft of someone else's first draft. Leave them to write the first draft and they're catastrophes.

[eldaec]

I kept wondering if this wouldn't have been a shit load better if they were under siege in an abandoned tower. Surrounded by wights, knowing the main army was approaching and would overwhelm them in a few days if help didn't arrive.

It would still be stupid - but nearly the same kind of stupid.

[Samwise]

I kept wondering if this wouldn't have been a shit load better if they were under siege in an abandoned tower. Surrounded by wights, knowing the main army was approaching and would overwhelm them in a few days if help didn't arrive.

It would still be stupid - but nearly the same kind of stupid.

The only problem with that is that it might come out a little too close to Bran and Hodor in the cave.  They might've wanted something that would feel more open and epic since they've already done the "barricading the doors against zombies" thing.

Other than that, I tend to agree that if you're going to remake Army of Darkness you should do it right.

[Tebonas]

I don't care how bad Game of Thrones could get, those reviews will always be worth it.

"This is just frozen water Gendry, row your way to safety"

[carnifex27]

I can forgive pretty much ANYTHING they do this season, so long as Arya, Brienne of Tarth and The Hound reunite at some point. They are the only characters left that I still care about at this point. I literally am only still watching to see if the three of them have a scene together.

[Ironwood]

Nah, I'm pretty much over this.  Suspension of disbelief totally out the window.  I can accept zombies and dragons and shapeshifting and dragon zombies, but this travel shit is just bullshit.  What fucking speed would that Raven have needed to go at.  Never mind that, what fucking speed would Gendry have had to go at ?

What fucking speed would those dragons have to go at

It's bullshit and not even interesting bullshit. 

I also thought the banter between Sophie and Maisie was FUCKING AWFUL.  I like them both and I know for a fact Maisie can act, but that was wooden as SHIT performances.  Fear and Anger ?  There was nothing with either of them.  It's awful.  Awful.  Fucking Jon did better emoting as a guy that might wanna fuck a dragon mum and he's usually wooden as fuck.

The wife won't let me quit it, but it's fast becoming the show I watch while compiling PowerBI reports.  I can't think of any bigger insult than that....

[Chimpy]

I have pretty much been over this series for a couple years now. Basically the fantasy league plus knowing it will end soon is making me stick with it.