Left 4 Dead

[NiX]

Some games, yeah. Like for example... ALL of them.

That should be green, right?

[Mrbloodworth]

A few of my friends are picking this up, are the majority of people here playing this on PC? I sure hope so.

[Engels]

I played this last night for about 30 minutes. I don't think I'll be picking it up. Its good and all, but let's face it, its a hl2 rehash with some 'innovative' game play concepts. But not really. Remember how in HL2 you'd get a room full of face huggers trying to jump onto your face? This game is that scenario, only amped about 1000 times.

[schild]

Its good and all, but let's face it, its a hl2 rehash with some 'innovative' game play concepts. But not really.

Wut?

Remember how in HL2 you'd get a room full of face huggers trying to jump onto your face? This game is that scenario, only amped about 1000 times.

Double wut?

That was like 1 room, in Ravenholm, right at the bottom of the mineshaft, and you could pick them off before you dropped down. I think you're remembering Half Life 2 incorrectly. The better example would be the mines that made up a good portion of episode 2, but even then Not Really At All.

[Falconeer]

Honestly, I wouldn't care too much about L4D if it wasn't for the fact that it's a great coop experience. The perfect coop experience me and my twitchy friends were waiting for outside dumb MMORPG territories. Sometimes it's great to play and clear a game together. It was in Ikari Warriors in the 80s, it is nowadays with L4D.

But I can understand solo players unwilling to shell out 49$ for this, not trusting too much the matchmaking options as a viable way to complete the game with random partners.

[ashrik]

My friends and I have been having a blast with this. I finally understand what all those console players were going on about with their co-op games. It's been a blast. I'll definitely be looking to pick this one up.

I just wish there would be more types of zombies in the retail version. We've already fought everything the game has to offer in that regard.

[Fabricated]

My friends and I have been having a blast with this. I finally understand what all those console players were going on about with their co-op games. It's been a blast. I'll definitely be looking to pick this one up.

I just wish there would be more types of zombies in the retail version. We've already fought everything the game has to offer in that regard.

I wish there were fewer types. Actually I wish there was one less type specifically; get rid of the witch. After getting that cunt dropped behind the same door 4 times in a row, where there is literally no way to not startle her I'm officially sick of having a 90% chance of losing someone without being able to do anything about it.

[Samwise]

I like the witch (the tension when everyone has to turn their lights off and creep around looking for her is awesome), but I wish it were possible to kill her before she's knocked someone down.

Comparing L4D to Half-Life 2 is silly.  Doom 3 is a MUCH more apt comparison.  This game is basically Doom 3 with an urban setting, different monsters, and better co-op mechanics.  The core gameplay of running around dark rooms while monsters teleport behind you is the same.

[MrHat]

I played this on Normal last night and it was too easy.

Expert is for drama ya?  I dont' think you're suppose to make it without losing someone.

[Prospero]

This game is basically Doom 3 with an urban setting, different monsters, and better co-op mechanics.  The core gameplay of running around dark rooms while monsters teleport behind you is the same.

Not fucking true. You can shoot and have a flashlight. 

[Samwise]

Not fucking true. You can shoot and have a flashlight. 

Well, you can aim and have a flashlight, but IIRC as soon as you start shooting the recoil makes it so you can't see what you're splattering.  (Or is that just when you're getting beat up?)  So I guess it's the opposite of Doom in that respect.

[FatuousTwat]

This might be fun, but only if you get friends to play it with you. Also, it would be nice if I could stay connected for more than one map without the game dying. And if the textures worked consistently.

[Lantyssa]

I wish there were fewer types. Actually I wish there was one less type specifically; get rid of the witch. After getting that cunt dropped behind the same door 4 times in a row, where there is literally no way to not startle her I'm officially sick of having a 90% chance of losing someone without being able to do anything about it.

That would be the Tank for me.  The Witch you can usually avoid but adds tension.  The others you can take out with a few shotgun blasts and have time to deal with the consequences of their attacks.  The Tank just plasters you, and even on normal takes several clips with everyone firing.

[Fabricated]

I wish there were fewer types. Actually I wish there was one less type specifically; get rid of the witch. After getting that cunt dropped behind the same door 4 times in a row, where there is literally no way to not startle her I'm officially sick of having a 90% chance of losing someone without being able to do anything about it.

That would be the Tank for me.  The Witch you can usually avoid but adds tension.  The others you can take out with a few shotgun blasts and have time to deal with the consequences of their attacks.  The Tank just plasters you, and even on normal takes several clips with everyone firing.

The tank goes down decently quick even on Expert if people shoot the thing in the head from the front instead of emptying all of their ammo into its back. The tank takes shit for damage when shot from the back. Well, also depending on where he attacks you. The subway cars are the best IMO since you can kite them forever almost if you get it right.

The fucking witch when dropped in a couple places where there is literally no way to avoid pissing it off, is basically like, *witch lunges, someone gets instagibbed*

[Samwise]

I wish there were fewer types. Actually I wish there was one less type specifically; get rid of the witch. After getting that cunt dropped behind the same door 4 times in a row, where there is literally no way to not startle her I'm officially sick of having a 90% chance of losing someone without being able to do anything about it.

That would be the Tank for me.  The Witch you can usually avoid but adds tension.  The others you can take out with a few shotgun blasts and have time to deal with the consequences of their attacks.  The Tank just plasters you, and even on normal takes several clips with everyone firing.

The tank goes down decently quick even on Expert if people shoot the thing in the head from the front instead of emptying all of their ammo into its back. The tank takes shit for damage when shot from the back. Well, also depending on where he attacks you. The subway cars are the best IMO since you can kite them forever almost if you get it right.

The tank also has the unique disadvantage of not being able to fit into tight spaces, so you can frequently get yourself on the other side of a narrow doorway or something to keep him from getting to you.  Or you can just run around him and take turns "drawing aggro" to keep him from ever getting close enough to grab any one person.

[Fabricated]

I wish there were fewer types. Actually I wish there was one less type specifically; get rid of the witch. After getting that cunt dropped behind the same door 4 times in a row, where there is literally no way to not startle her I'm officially sick of having a 90% chance of losing someone without being able to do anything about it.

That would be the Tank for me.  The Witch you can usually avoid but adds tension.  The others you can take out with a few shotgun blasts and have time to deal with the consequences of their attacks.  The Tank just plasters you, and even on normal takes several clips with everyone firing.

The tank goes down decently quick even on Expert if people shoot the thing in the head from the front instead of emptying all of their ammo into its back. The tank takes shit for damage when shot from the back. Well, also depending on where he attacks you. The subway cars are the best IMO since you can kite them forever almost if you get it right.

The tank also has the unique disadvantage of not being able to fit into tight spaces, so you can frequently get yourself on the other side of a narrow doorway or something to keep him from getting to you.  Or you can just run around him and take turns "drawing aggro" to keep him from ever getting close enough to grab any one person.

If you get attacked at a saferoom by one make sure everyone gets in there and shuts the door to end the chapter because they -will- break the door down.

[Triforcer]

CAN'T DOWNLOAD.  RACISM.  ALSO, MOUSE STOPPED WORKING.  GAIJIN SMASH.

You can't play the Infected in the demo, right?  Not to rain on the general parade, but I've read a couple of reviews that said Infected play is 5 seconds of life followed by thirty seconds of waiting to respawn. 

[Warskull]

This game is all about atmosphere and too much customization would detract from the atmosphere.  Some different outfits, maybe, but how much will letting you change your clothes here and there add to the game?  Some games the customization adds to the games, I don't think this is one of those games.

[schild]

I am a master of disaster at this game.

[Valmorian]

Not to rain on the general parade, but I've read a couple of reviews that said Infected play is 5 seconds of life followed by thirty seconds of waiting to respawn. 

I would expect this.  The teams are not supposed to be symmetrical.  Given that the survivors are limited to 4 and have to fight hordes of regular zombies as well as any infected bosses, players playing the bosses should expect to be dropped quick and select their times to attack very wisely indeed.

[Samwise]

I know when I'm playing the infected I'm not going to attack if I can help it.  The bosses are at their most aggravating when they hang around hiding from you and distracting you from the stuff coming the other way.

Unless I draw the Tank.  Then I'm going to charge right in and start throwing people into the nearest open flame.   

[ashrik]

Jesus Christ, Valve is now offering L4D as well as every single Valve game ever made in a special deal for $99

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1134

I call it a powerplay to take over PC gaming until Christmas. Too bad I have most of those already.

[Moaner]

Wow, I have all of those minus L4D which I'm going to buy tonight.  My steam dir is 32Gb :)

I finally played the demo last night and I'm sold!

[Tebonas]

Played the demo, preloading it right now. That looks like it will be fun.

[Furiously]

Played the demo, this is going to be fun with people you know.

[NiX]

Played the demo, this is going to be fun with people you know.

And you know us! So this is going to be fun to the EXTREEEEEEEEEEEME

[schild]

This is the most exciting preload ever. I am frothy with anticipation.

[Yoru]

I tried the demo briefly after work today; it strikes me as a very very very very very polished and advanced form of Serious Sam co-op, without the wacky weapons or static encounters.

[MrHat]

I tried the demo briefly after work today; it strikes me as a very very very very very polished and advanced form of Serious Sam co-op, without the wacky weapons or static encounters.

That's what I thought too.  I miss the suicide bombers noise.

[Warskull]

I played this last night for about 30 minutes. I don't think I'll be picking it up. Its good and all, but let's face it, its a hl2 rehash with some 'innovative' game play concepts. But not really. Remember how in HL2 you'd get a room full of face huggers trying to jump onto your face? This game is that scenario, only amped about 1000 times.

I think you completely missed the point of this game.  Grab a few friends and play it online on expert.  It is a great co-op experience.  There are tons of situations designed to make you rely on your teammates.  The fun comes mostly from the team work and coordination.

I agree that buying this as a single player game would be a waste of money.  Its short and pricey for a single player game.  As a multiplayer game its amazing (what it was designed for.)

[Prospero]

Yeah, this would be a craptastic single player game, although I think the director could be put to good use in single player games. As online game, especially knowing Valve's track record for additional content after release, this game is 

[Rasix]

I agree that buying this as a single player game would be a waste of money.  Its short and pricey for a single player game. 

Which it would be for me once something else shiney catches the eye of the f13 steam community.  I don't have friends I play co-op FPS with (my WoW friends have bad pcs that can barely run HL2 if at all)  other than the people here and even then, my play times are late and sporadic.

Reluctantly passing this up, I think. I just don't feel I'd get $50 out of it.

[Strazos]

I think I'm the only person who would consider this on 360, as I still haven't had valve fix my steam account.

[Samwise]

I agree that buying this as a single player game would be a waste of money.  Its short and pricey for a single player game. 

Which it would be for me once something else shiney catches the eye of the f13 steam community.  I don't have friends I play co-op FPS with (my WoW friends have bad pcs that can barely run HL2 if at all)  other than the people here and even then, my play times are late and sporadic.

Reluctantly passing this up, I think. I just don't feel I'd get $50 out of it.

It plays very well with random tards.  To a certain point of tardedness, anyway.

[Margalis]

It seems like the most challenging setting is the only one worth playing, and I totally suck at this type of game.