Fallout 3 [spoilers, etc]

[Sky]

I forgot one apparel, it's also my favorite for ghouled-up sewers. The Ghoul Mask! Too bad you can't interact with them, though.

Sky - as to the Lincoln Memorial quest - fast travel back to the memorial, and then start walking towards the metro station. You'll find the whole lot of them hanging out on  a streetcorner waiting for you for the last month...

Thanks, they were still hanging out over there!

[ajax34i]

I've read that the Railway Gun has the potential to crash the game to the desktop (CTD), because the steam locomotive whistling sound it makes after each shot has a bug of some sort in the sound file.  It hasn't happened to me, but I've only used it a couple times.

As far as weapons, if your associated skill for the weapon is high, and especially if you get the critical hit bonus because your first shot is from hiding, all of them feel overpowered.  Trick I learned:  you can queue multiple opponents in VATS - queue up a headshot on the first enemy, then select the next enemy (A key for me, might be W by default) and queue up a headshot, then select the third and queue up a headshot, then execute.  Pow pow pow, dead dead dead.

[stray]

Yeah, I try to do multiple targets.

My guns skill is already maxed out. I shoot from sneak as much as possible. My Luck is high, so Crit chance is boosted. I'll probably add a few more modifiers... I only have Commando atm. And Bloody Mess. Lol, I even took Lady Killer for the hell of it. I guess that counts a dmg modifier though.

Just haven't run into any interesting weapons yet.

[stray]

Just to carry my rant over from the Mass Effect thread to something more Fallout specific: Anyone who says this is not Oblivion with guns is wrong. It's exactly that. Yes, the setting is better, but that's about it.

It doesn't even feel that much like Fallout either. About the only real nod to Fallout, besides the setting, is VATS. But that's a failure imo. It doesn't make the game all that tactical. Just makes it easy.

As for setting.. yeah, it's the Fallout setting. It lacks the content and characters of the originals though to make that setting feel similar though.  Really, just one random character in the originals can give me more laughs than all of the ones combined here. I don't know... something about how every Fallout character talked made them all come off like lunatics or something. And extremely sarcastic. Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys comes to mind. Heh.

They didn't even try to replicate that here. Everyone's so damn serious and dramatic. Like Oblivion.

[Engels]

You may have to look a bit deeper in Fallout 3 for the humor, but its there. On the whole, yes, its not the same as the other two games, but I got over that once I could accept that I was just not going to have that same experience again. Its nearly better that they just didn't try, because that would have been sadder, to try and fail rather than just take a different tack.


Mass Effect, by comparison, is entirely and completely non-humorous. It doesn't even try to be, so its not really a criticism.

[Samprimary]

Mass Effect, by comparison, is entirely and completely non-humorous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeruIZ0T44

[Engels]

well, I stand corrected! Still, by comparison to F3, its a bit one dimensional.

[Khaldun]

On my evil run-through, I've just decided to screw the armor, so I have my killer wearing a bonnet and pre-war springwear, along with biker goggles. She looks pretty keen while blowing the heads off of townspeople who annoy her.

[stray]

You may have to look a bit deeper in Fallout 3 for the humor, but its there.

OK, there is a bit of understated humor sometimes. The "Package" (Naughty Nightwear) quest, for one. They really should have drawn that out though. Could have been a truly funny quest. The guy who ordered it was kind of funny too.. Living on the "ass end" of the Wasteland, merely because he was trying to score with the Nuka Cola girl. But they didn't expand upon it. It's really only funny because of my own imagination... Just thinking how fucking sad this dude's life is (and the Nuka Cola girl's life is pretty damn sad too), if he were a real person.


Harold makes a comeback too. Except.. umm.. He's actually more depressing than funny in this game. I appreciate the inclusion though.. And depressing is probably the only natural conclusion to his "problem", if you think about it. Hard to write it any other way. Heh

[shiznitz]

There are only 80 mini nukes in the entire game.

Who the hell needs even 20? My Fat Man is a fun diversion between saves and reloads!

[Lantyssa]

The humor is buried, but you have to play the game long enough to find it.  Frankly I'm glad they didn't try too hard.  Else you end up with WoW's need for a pop-culture reference every five steps.  It's a good, solid game on its own (if you ignore much of the main plot).

[Sky]

Shiz, I do that, too. Anytime I need to reload I like to unload for a while. Upsets my fiancee when I start shooting everyone in town and laughing at the rag doll stuff. She can't quite get that it's all meaningless due to the reload, she thinks I'm evil for doing it. Ah, well. But I should tote the Experimental jobbie around (the named Fat Man, just got it xmas eve) for grins.

Playing this game is so much more fun without spoilers and finding stuff like the named Fat Man through gameplay. I'm /still/ on my first playthrough, and I've been playing it since a couple days after release.

As far as humor, the Vault with the Garys had me chuckling plenty. Gary? Gary! Ehh....Gary?

[stray]

The humor is buried, but you have to play the game long enough to find it.  Frankly I'm glad they didn't try too hard.  Else you end up with WoW's need for a pop-culture reference every five steps.  It's a good, solid game on its own (if you ignore much of the main plot).

Eh, I don't want pop culture references either. I just want more cooky Fallout type of characters. It's part of what made the games unique. Everyone in the others was a bit more self-entertaining and resigned to death and sarcasm. When I say this one is a bit dramatic, I just kind of mean the general attitude/dialogue is typical "Save Me!! Wahhh!!" RPG fare. And Guards act morose like they do in Oblivion. You could place most of the dialogue here in any Fantasy RPG and it'd be right in place.

[stray]

So I sold this shit, and now own LBP and MGS4, and all is right with the world. Fuck this game. 

Ah Bethesda, you almost got me this time.

[schild]

MGS4

A much, MUCH better game.

[stray]

I figured if I'm going to stalk around and stealth, I might as well make it worth my time.


In retrospect, I might have been better off building a Big Guns/Melee character. At the very least, it would have been a little louder and more exciting.  [edit] probably more challenging too?

[Lantyssa]

MGS4

A much, MUCH better game movie.

FIFY

[schild]

MGS4

A much, MUCH better game movie.

FIFY

Try doing a no-alert, no-kill run and tell me it's a movie.

Seriously, I hated MGS before MGS 4. Game is a fucking masterpiece. And anyone that calls it a movie and not a game does not like fun. Sorry.

[Sky]

Does this mean Stray is going to stop fagging up this thread? 

[Murgos]

Stray... stop fagging up... thread?

Unpossible.

[stray]

Heh, sorry guys. I was honestly trying to spark some discussion... not just bitching.

[Lantyssa]

Try doing a no-alert, no-kill run and tell me it's a movie.

Seriously, I hated MGS before MGS 4. Game is a fucking masterpiece. And anyone that calls it a movie and not a game does not like fun. Sorry.

You could be right.  I'll go load up a Youtube of someone going that route and see how it is.

[Sky]

Heh, sorry guys. I was honestly trying to spark some discussion... not just bitching.

Nah, your gripes are valid. I'm not even sure why I'm enjoying the game as much as I am. Just hits the right chords for some reason.

[schild]

Try doing a no-alert, no-kill run and tell me it's a movie.

Seriously, I hated MGS before MGS 4. Game is a fucking masterpiece. And anyone that calls it a movie and not a game does not like fun. Sorry.

You could be right.  I'll go load up a Youtube of someone going that route and see how it is.

While I get your joke, it's not the same thing. There's no tension in watching SOMEONE ELSE do it.

Of course, that leads me to believe you haven't played MGS4 anyway. So, there's that.

[Lantyssa]

I lack the requisite equipment and haven't had any interest in any of the series.  I'm trying to tease him through you, but you're all serious.

I just find it hilarious that Stray traded Fallout 3 for MGS 4 because he wants something more interactive.  One of the best open ended RPGs for what's widely joked about as a movie with a little bit of gameplay for intermissions.  If it's more his thing, I'm happy he's happy.  But c'mon, that's great material he's giving us.

[schild]

I just find it hilarious that Stray traded Fallout 3 for MGS 4 because he wants something more interactive.  One of the best open ended RPGs for what's widely joked about as a movie with a little bit of gameplay for intermissions.  If it's more his thing, I'm happy he's happy.  But c'mon, that's great material he's giving us.

All of Bethesda's games come down to repeating the exact same tactics and gameplay, ad infinitum, in decent to well-crafted worlds.

Between Metal Gear Online and the main story, that game is, arguably, far more interactive.

I lack the requisite equipment and haven't had any interest in any of the series.  I'm trying to tease him through you, but you're all serious.

What does that accomplish? If you had the requisite equipment and had played it, it would be more validated, but you know, when did you ever stoop to trolling?

[stray]

Eh? It's hilarious that I'm playing Metal Gear? Jesus.

[Tebonas]

I have a novel idea. If you like Metal Gear Solid so much that you want to talk about it, make a thread about it. Schild, moderator that he is, could even take the posts which accidenty landed in other threads and move them there.

[schild]

I have a novel idea. If you like Metal Gear Solid so much that you want to talk about it, make a thread about it. Schild, moderator that he is, could even take the posts which accidenty landed in other threads and move them there.

We have two threads about it. Don't you think it would've been more constructive to try to re-rail this one, wiseass?

[Tebonas]

First I try to get the official sanction by a moderator that derailing this thread is ok out of the way.

Then I can say important things like "Wee, that Ghoul mask is cool, but was it really a good Karma action to kick the bigots out of the tower to die?" again.

[stray]

For the record, I never cared to talk about MGS much (and haven't). I made a passing comment about my stealthing character and finding a better game for that kind of thing.

[apocrypha]

MGS4 discussion is frustrating me at the moment because I can't find a UK supplier with it in stock for a sensible price 

[shiznitz]

If you are still playing Fallout 3 and never went into the Capitol Building, I HIGHLY recommend it. I love watching NPC factions fight each other while I snipe them with the Lincoln Repeater. If there was unlimited .44 ammo, I would carry nothing but this gun. OMFG the love!

[Lantyssa]

What does that accomplish? If you had the requisite equipment and had played it, it would be more validated, but you know, when did you ever stoop to trolling?

That depends upon where you draw the line at trolling.

I've always liked to tease and be a little silly.  Even when I'm serious and right I'll do it.  There's no way you haven't seen that.  (Else I'm the Queen Troll and I'm so good even I didn't know it.)

But I guess if I'm being silly and you're being defensive about a game then it'd be trolling.  Just don't rename me to Chris Dane Owens, please.  I'll be good if I can avoid that terrible fate.

[schild]

If you are still playing Fallout 3 and never went into the Capitol Building, I HIGHLY recommend it. I love watching NPC factions fight each other while I snipe them with the Lincoln Repeater. If there was unlimited .44 ammo, I would carry nothing but this gun. OMFG the love!

Eh? I have something like 3,000 .44 ammo. It becomes more common. Particularly on merchants and the traveling salesfolk.