SWTOR

[Evildrider]

I was just pointing out that those players were the least likely to stick around with SWTOR past the first couple of months.

[Surlyboi]

Cool, game'll be better off without 'em anyway.

[Fordel]

I'm just saying that anyone pinning their hopes on 'WoWtards' going back to WoW and leaving SWTOR pure and clean or whatever, are going to be very disappointed. 

[Surlyboi]

Don't need them all to go back. Just the most vocal and asstarded. But then, that could be said of any group of fanboys.

[Sjofn]

I do think that a lot of people that claim or think they don't give a shit about story, just haven't actually experienced the delivery that Bioware brings with it's voiced protagonist. When they say "I don't give a shit about story" they really mean "I don't give a shit about quest text and Metzen's fan fiction".

I've seen more then a few people when they give their reviews after actually playing the game, that amounts too "I didn't think I would care about the story at all, but <blah> really hooked me into it!"

This game is going to take over my liiiiiiiiiiiiife, isn't iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.


 

[Surlyboi]

Yeah, pretty much give up being social with anyone outside the computer for a bit. 

[Fordel]

That's what I'm saying though, they aren't actually the most vocal group.



Not that it matters, they'll all be drowned out by the guy who will be asking where Darth Vader is.



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Yes Sjofn, yes it will.

[Sjofn]

Yeah, pretty much give up being social with anyone outside the computer for a bit. 

Hell, I don't need them inside the computer either, I WILL HAVE COMPANIONS FOR THAT.

[Evildrider]

Yeah, pretty much give up being social with anyone outside the computer for a bit. 

Hell, I don't need them inside the computer either, I WILL HAVE COMPANIONS FOR THAT.

Companions that will even give you nooky.   

[Surlyboi]

Not that it matters, they'll all be drowned out by the guy who will be asking where Darth Vader is.

Ah, yes. The only time I ever yearn for open world PvP. Just so I can hunt those people down and kill them repeatedly.

[Pezzle]

Hell, I don't need them inside the computer either, I WILL HAVE COMPANIONS FOR THAT.

Pity there will only be so many character slots per server, your love/hate collection is going to be IMMENSE.  You will certainly want to group with others, how else are you going to screw up other peoples conversations?  

[Fordel]

I will say, that the SWTOR forums, even the Beta forums, may be the dumbest collection of game players I have ever seen. They make WoW General look like philosophers.

[Paelos]

The most vocal and annoying people in any MMO community aren't the ones completing max level content, posting actual strategy, or hitting high level pvp goals.

It's always the 10% of the playerbase that really REALLY wants to be that good, but actually doesn't do anything but the baseline normal content, and wants to tell the rest of the world to L2P. It's always a fun experiment to see who tells the people in the WoW forums that Cataclysm wasn't hard enough. 99% of the time, it's a person who has never run a successful heroic level raid in their life. They beat the normal stuff, declared themselves done, and post that the game was simplistic.

[Fabricated]

As for the story; I've been watching spoiler videos for some of the opening origin plots and provided they continue to be as interesting, I may actually roll an alt of every class just to check out their opening areas and plots. I literally only played 2 classes to level cap in WoW.

As for annoying playerbases; Star Wars already has a built in one. Even if the "wowtards" that fucked up WoW leave, SWTOR will simply grow a new batch of grognards who will mess up raid design, 4-mans, and PVP by breaking the game over their knees in excel.

[Evildrider]

I will say, that the SWTOR forums, even the Beta forums, may be the dumbest collection of game players I have ever seen. They make WoW General look like philosophers.

I have abandoned the TOR forums, except the dev tracker, til the game launches and it becomes a sub only forum.

[Pezzle]

I will say, that the SWTOR forums, even the Beta forums, may be the dumbest collection of game players I have ever seen. They make WoW General look like philosophers.

That may be a bit extreme, but yes, the average SWTOR forum poster is terrible.

[Evildrider]

As for annoying playerbases; Star Wars already has a built in one. Even if the "wowtards" that fucked up WoW leave, SWTOR will simply grow a new batch of grognards who will mess up raid design, 4-mans, and PVP by breaking the game over their knees in excel.

The SWG crowd, to me, is just as annoying as the wowtards.

[eldaec]

I'm not sure the SWG crowd and the star wars crowd has much of an intersection.

[Lantyssa]

But who can resist the sweet, sweet call to be disappointed yet again so we can bitch about it here?

I polish my lightsaber hilt with my own tears.

[Sky]

They are definitely vocal about TOR, which makes me chuckle. Entirely different game with zero chance of success, but they're not deterred. Not that I wouldn't mind an SWG2, I would love it. But Bioware won't be making it and it's to think otherwise.

Same thing happened with Rift because there were some Vanguard devs on the team. The Vanboys were out in force.

[01101010]

Looking forward to the story actually. The last game I gave two shits about the questlines was FFXI and that's because of the story those quests told - along with the cutscenes. Of course, that could have been a whiplash reaction to the asian grinder I was subjecting myself to while leveling. But some of those stories were very cool, for the time and setting.

[Fabricated]

As for annoying playerbases; Star Wars already has a built in one. Even if the "wowtards" that fucked up WoW leave, SWTOR will simply grow a new batch of grognards who will mess up raid design, 4-mans, and PVP by breaking the game over their knees in excel.

The SWG crowd, to me, is just as annoying as the wowtards.

I don't particularly disagree. There's a vocal group on there that actually doesn't want addons enabled and the combat log to be completely unparsable. I get the idea of not wanting DPS meters, but all you do when you try to block them you'll just be required to install dodgy third-party software that literally reads the screen or some shit in order to be able to raid in anything but a straight-up friends/family guild.

As for other Addons, literally one of the major reasons that I struggle so much trying to enjoy non-WoW mmos is the inability to unfuck their interfaces. Rift's may have had a lot of built-in bells and whistles and could be rearranged/resized, but it was still ass ugly, wasted space, and didn't provide information in readable/quickly recognizable formats in areas. Half of playing an MMO is having a good, comfortable interface to interact with the world and the ability to quickly glean information. Blizzard was insanely fucking smart to open their API so much and allow users to do their work for them, even if they had to learn lessons about preventing mods from literally playing the game.

[Fordel]

I will say, that the SWTOR forums, even the Beta forums, may be the dumbest collection of game players I have ever seen. They make WoW General look like philosophers.

That may be a bit extreme, but yes, the average SWTOR forum poster is terrible.

Like half a step above youtube comments maybe.

WoW is full of trolling and retards and jackassery, but the SWTOR forums are actually dumb. Like, stupid, can't comprehend what is being written. It's also full of pseudo intellectuals, contrary'ians and blind faith defenders of <everything>.

Don't even get me started on the god damn SWG posters. JESUS CHRIST!



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Then you sprinkle in the EU lolore fanatics fighting with the previously mentioned "WHAR IS DARTH VADAR OLOLOL" guys.

[tmp]

Incidentally, is it okay for people to reveal how many tetrabytes the client has now, or will the narwhal frown at it? Don't want to spoil myself with the beta signup, but it's slowly getting to the point where i should probably start cleaning up my hd in preparation for the monster...

[Fordel]

Expect 30-40 Gigs.

[Evildrider]

The only thing I wish they would allow is the ability to mess with the placement and size of the UI.  I did enjoy not having all the crap that I use in WoW though, no DBM, cooldown timer addon's, etc.  I didn't miss them at all and the game looks good enough to me that I don't want all that stuff on my screen anyway.

I think even if they do end up allowing it I'm going to keep myself as pure as possible.  I just hope that their raid content isn't as batshit stupid as WoW's where you almost need a DBM just to keep track of everything.

[tmp]

Expect 30-40 Gigs.

Ouch. But given all the voice stuff that sounds reasonable i guess, compared to other clients. Hmm will be hard but i shall do it.

(and thanks)

[Evildrider]

Expect 30-40 Gigs.

Ouch. But given all the voice stuff that sounds reasonable i guess, compared to other clients. Hmm will be hard but i shall do it.

(and thanks)

WoW right now is at 34 gigs and TOR is just as big, if not bigger than WoW is currently.

[01101010]

Expect 30-40 Gigs.

Ouch. But given all the voice stuff that sounds reasonable i guess, compared to other clients. Hmm will be hard but i shall do it.

(and thanks)

Newegg has Black November deals... hard drives being included in the sales.

[Rasix]

Incidentally, is it okay for people to reveal how many tetrabytes the client has now, or will the narwhal frown at it? Don't want to spoil myself with the beta signup, but it's slowly getting to the point where i should probably start cleaning up my hd in preparation for the monster...

Narwhal is unconcerned about client size at this time.  I could verify when I get home, but I haven't reinstalled for the last 2 beta weekends (I know what I'm getting, and I'm a busy man).  It assuredly has grown some.  

[Evildrider]

If that's the deal than the last Beta weekend the client was 27 gigs. 

[01101010]

Incidentally, is it okay for people to reveal how many tetrabytes the client has now, or will the narwhal frown at it? Don't want to spoil myself with the beta signup, but it's slowly getting to the point where i should probably start cleaning up my hd in preparation for the monster...

Narwhal is unconcerned about client size at this time.  I could verify when I get home, but I haven't reinstalled for the last 2 beta weekends (I know what I'm getting, and I'm a busy man).  It assuredly has grown some.  

My customary  to you sir.

[Ingmar]

Seriously. Place the beta login on the table and back away slowly, and nobody will get hurt.

[Fordel]

Check your in boxes come Wednesday or Thursday, they are gearing up for a big influx of testers.

[Morfiend]

Expect 30-40 Gigs.

Ouch. But given all the voice stuff that sounds reasonable i guess, compared to other clients. Hmm will be hard but i shall do it.

(and thanks)

WoW right now is at 34 gigs and TOR is just as big, if not bigger than WoW is currently.

WoW is actually around 20gb. It can grow in size because it saves all the compressed patches, but a clean install will run you around 20gb when all is said and done. I did this a week ago and I was paying attention to files ize as my hard drive is getting a bit full.