SWTOR

[Hutch]

The WoW hatred is nearly palpable in here.

Take up your poopsocks, and strike down the unbelievers!

Your journey to the Dark Side is nearly complete!

ding!
gratz
lol

[Surlyboi]

Don't hate the game as much as the players that seem to forget there was ever anything else.

A polished turd is still a turd and to put it on a pedestal above its forebears is fucking stupid.

[Rasix]

If people continue this fucking stupid derail and do not unwad their fucking panties, I will kill this fucking thread dead.  Get the hell over your WoW tourettes, people.  Like it or not, it's going to be a basis for comparison for many a future MMO, especially this one.

Edit:

And stop spreading your little feuds everywhere.  We have a rule about it. It's written somewhere. 

[Surlyboi]

Feh.

If it wasn't for the derails and petty squabbles, this thread wouldn't even be at 200. 

[01101010]

If people continue this fucking stupid derail and do not unwad their fucking panties, I will kill this fucking thread dead.  Get the hell over your WoW tourettes, people.  Like it or not, it's going to be a basis for comparison for many a future MMO, especially this one.

Edit:

And stop spreading your little feuds everywhere.  We have a rule about it. It's written somewhere. 

I suggest just staring at Hutch's avatar for a few minutes before you post. I had a huge comment but it simply melted away. 

[Rasix]

Yes, quite a calming effect.  That was the edited, nice version of what I was going to post.

[luckton]

In response to Mists of Pandaria, BioWare's already working on TOR's first expansion.


 

[Bunk]

I suggest just staring at Hutch's avatar for a few minutes before you post. I had a huge comment but it simply melted away. 

Pretty much exactly what happened when I flipped to this page.

[Sky]

you apparently can't tell the difference between inspired usability and specifically made-for-the-unwashed-masses mediocrity

Now come on, the unwashed masses can't afford a Mac.

[Surlyboi]

They can, they just continually look for excuses why they're too expensive. 

We've upped our standards, up yours!

[Pezzle]

More entertaining than lore slap fights.

[Sjofn]

If people continue this fucking stupid derail and do not unwad their fucking panties, I will kill this fucking thread dead.  Get the hell over your WoW tourettes, people.  Like it or not, it's going to be a basis for comparison for many a future MMO, especially this one.

Edit:

And stop spreading your little feuds everywhere.  We have a rule about it. It's written somewhere. 

But Daaaaad, WoW's sitting on SWTOR's side of the seeeeeeat. On PURPOSE.

[Surlyboi]

More entertaining than lore slap fights.

Oh, come on, lore slap fights are awesome... in a, "not at all" kinda way.

[Merusk]

Y'all just had to go full retard, didn't you?

[Surlyboi]

They started it! 

[Rasix]

I'm somewhat surprised the lore/prequel nonsense a page or two ago didn't draw out a WUA smurf account. 

[sinij]

I'm somewhat surprised the lore/prequel nonsense a page or two ago didn't draw out a WUA smurf account. 

WUA isn't smurf account? Or is this matrix within a matrix type of a deal?

[Hutch]

I suggest just staring at Hutch's avatar for a few minutes before you post. I had a huge comment but it simply melted away. 

Yes, quite a calming effect.  That was the edited, nice version of what I was going to post.

Yvonne Strahovski, arbiter of peace.

[Surlyboi]

Meh, all I see now is Miranda's ass in patent leather.

[eldaec]

Why do you guys bemoan "Standard" MMORPG classes/designs, but then bitch there is no "Pure" <insert class spec here>...?

If they were doing something different I wouldn't be so concerned, but if you limit your classes literally to picking one of 'tank, cleric, melee or ranged damage' then you leave a hell of a lot of space for people to discuss what is missing and how pretty much every pre-mmog-dark-age game had an awful lot more variety. I'm not that fussed that I can't make a 'pure' control dude, but afaik I can't make a generally support focussed guy of any sort except direct heal cleric guy.

Extending this whine a little further, afaik, the talent trees are the only element of character customisation after a advanced class?

[Ingmar]

Whoops, new page, didn't see Rasix warning. Sorry!

EDIT: Maybe I am tempting fate but I think it needs to be said: If you only played WoW for 3 months 7 years ago, I think you really probably need to back off on pretending you know the first thing about it.

[Paelos]

If SWTOR succeeds, it will put WoW to sleep, and become the next iteration that everyone references.

If not, WoW remains the reference point long after Origin dies a horrible death under Steam's boot.

[Evildrider]

I think that SWTOR will be successful in it's own right, but I think the WoW hardcore pvp'ers and so called "leet" raiders, that don't give a shit about story, will drop it like a hot potato within the first few months.

[Surlyboi]

If SWTOR succeeds, it will put WoW to sleep, and become the next iteration that everyone references.

If not, WoW remains the reference point long after Origin dies a horrible death under Steam's boot.

Whether SWTOR succeeds or fails, Origin still needs to die in a fire.

[Sky]

If you only played WoW for 3 months 7 years ago, I think you really probably need to back off on pretending you know the first thing about it.

NO YOU, MR BOSSYPANTS!  

I think that SWTOR will be successful in it's own right, but I think the WoW hardcore pvp'ers and so called "leet" raiders, that don't give a shit about story, will drop it like a hot potato within the first few months.

I agree, and hope so. I think there is a rather large audience outside the dedicated WoW players and jaded vets, who will reduce the game to its elements and proclaim it not revolutionary and move back to WoW.

[Evildrider]

I mean if you look at the TOR forums, and I try to avoid it nowadays, ALOT of posters are first time MMO people.  Basically all the Bioware fans that tried to stay away from MMO's.

[Sky]

Hell, I try to stay away from mmo 

[Surlyboi]

We all try.

But who can resist the sweet, sweet call to be disappointed yet again so we can bitch about it here?

[Evildrider]

Hell, I try to stay away from mmo 

It's really the only way I get to play with most of my friends anymore, so I don't mind playing them.  I mean I've only played/tolerated WoW because we couldn't agree on something else to all play together.  Now we are all moving to SWTOR and most of us never plan on going back.

[Fabricated]

On that note, I actually got around to preordering SWTOR. Huh, I guess I am getting old; I didn't know that Amazon did release-day shipping for like $1.

[Sky]

On that note, I actually got around to preordering SWTOR. Huh, I guess I am getting old; I didn't know that Amazon did release-day shipping for like $1.

I think I forgot to tick that box on my amazon order, but with the head start it shouldn't be an issue, since I'll have to get that through origin, anyway.

[Evildrider]

On that note, I actually got around to preordering SWTOR. Huh, I guess I am getting old; I didn't know that Amazon did release-day shipping for like $1.

I think I forgot to tick that box on my amazon order, but with the head start it shouldn't be an issue, since I'll have to get that through origin, anyway.

You don't have to use Origin for anything unless you ordered through them. 

[Fordel]

I think that SWTOR will be successful in it's own right, but I think the WoW hardcore pvp'ers and so called "leet" raiders, that don't give a shit about story, will drop it like a hot potato within the first few months.

Which are but a tiny fraction of WoW's player base.  



I do think that a lot of people that claim or think they don't give a shit about story, just haven't actually experienced the delivery that Bioware brings with it's voiced protagonist. When they say "I don't give a shit about story" they really mean "I don't give a shit about quest text and Metzen's fan fiction".

I've seen more then a few people when they give their reviews after actually playing the game, that amounts too "I didn't think I would care about the story at all, but <blah> really hooked me into it!"

[Evildrider]

There are still those people that want to get to max level asap or want to level only through PvP.  They are the ones asking Bioware to put in ways for them to completely skip the VO and cut scenes in the game.

[Fordel]

Yea so? There's also people asking for mandatory grouping and shit, doesn't mean there are a lot of them or that they will be listened to.