SWTOR

[Sjofn]

But it feels dirty. :(

[Kirth]

Origin not required to play SW TOR

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8488436#edit8488436

[Sky]

There was still a question about that? They've been pretty up-front that Origin was the digital distro only. You will, however, need to download it through Origin if you want to get the pre-release game time, since you won't have your boxed client before the release, afaik.

[Sjofn]

Check five pages back, we probably covered the Origin thing already. 

[Draegan]

Only 5 pages?

[Kirth]

There was still a question about that? They've been pretty up-front that Origin was the digital distro only. You will, however, need to download it through Origin if you want to get the pre-release game time, since you won't have your boxed client before the release, afaik.

I guess there was since a recent battlefield game might have required it to play.

[luckton]

Regarding raid encounters...

[jakonovski]

God, way to make me lose interest, talking about dungeons and tank & spank in what is supposed to be a Star Wars game. Cynical dikumud jargon ftl.

[Reg]

Didn't you already lose interest like five or six times over the last few weeks?

edit: grammar

[luckton]

God, way to make me lose interest, talking about dungeons and tank & spank in what is supposed to be a Star Wars game. Cynical dikumud jargon ftl.

I'm sure I could re-articulate the article in some epic RP fashion...I just don't have the time.     

[jakonovski]

Didn't you already lose interest like five or six times over the last few weeks?

edit: grammar

I don't know if it's all been losses of interest, but the slope is downwards, yes.

[Paelos]

Wah wah wah. You knew what this was.

[Lantyssa]

Didn't you already lose interest like five or six times over the last few weeks?

There's a Light/Dark Interest meter.  Sure we know where the game is generally heading, but we're still watching Bioware choose DIKU to see exactly how it plays out.

[Mrbloodworth]

So, people are up in arms about no same sex marriage in game.

Like....really? Is there even marriage?


Same Gender Romance Story Arc

[Kirth]

So the alderaan civil war BG looks fun, I think the thing that really stands out for me is that rather then some point counter clicking away while you stand around guarding a flag there is the visual representation of these huge planetary defense tubrolasers firing on the enemy ship.  Also, anyone have any info if there is going to be some type of mentoring system?

[Tyrnan]

So, people are up in arms about no same sex marriage in game.

Like....really? Is there even marriage?


Same Gender Romance Story Arc

It's the internet, people are always up in arms about something. Also, where does it say "marriage"? I see a poll about romance arcs, which are in the game but heterosexual only. Given that same gender romance options is one of the things Bioware are known for it's hardly surprising that there's a discussion about it when it's omitted from their latest offering (although I think that's probably more to do with LA than BW).

And the guy posting a thread trolling the forums claiming that some 'OMG won't someone think of the children!' group got BW to remove gay romance arcs from the game probably helped to stir things up a bit too.

[jakonovski]

So, people are up in arms about no same sex marriage in game.

Like....really? Is there even marriage?


Same Gender Romance Story Arc

I think the outrage was mostly over the "there are no gays or lesbians in Star Wars" line that Bioware had been peddling. Which was disgusting, and they backpedaled.

[fuser]

Has the guild beta started?

[koro]

So the alderaan civil war BG looks fun, I think the thing that really stands out for me is that rather then some point counter clicking away while you stand around guarding a flag there is the visual representation of these huge planetary defense tubrolasers firing on the enemy ship.  Also, anyone have any info if there is going to be some type of mentoring system?

A mentoring system, like a sidekicking system in CoH/Champions? I've heard absolutely nothing about one, but considering damage and health across all levels is consistent enough that a simple buff can bring my Level Nothing up to somewhat par with level 50s in PvP, I imagine it wouldn't be terribly difficult to do it the other way around.

[Kirth]

So the alderaan civil war BG looks fun, I think the thing that really stands out for me is that rather then some point counter clicking away while you stand around guarding a flag there is the visual representation of these huge planetary defense tubrolasers firing on the enemy ship.  Also, anyone have any info if there is going to be some type of mentoring system?

A mentoring system, like a sidekicking system in CoH/Champions? I've heard absolutely nothing about one, but considering damage and health across all levels is consistent enough that a simple buff can bring my Level Nothing up to somewhat par with level 50s in PvP, I imagine it wouldn't be terribly difficult to do it the other way around.

yeh, or like EQ2 where your 20 and I"m 40 we group up i can delevel to 20 and help you and get xp as well.

[Nevermore]

yeh, or like EQ2 where your 20 and I"m 40 we group up i can delevel to 20 and help you and get xp as well.

You can do that in CoX as well.  'Exemplar'-ing I think they call it.  Hell, you can sidekick an entire group in CoX now.

[Rasix]

I don't see this happening in SWTOR.

[eldaec]

yeh, or like EQ2 where your 20 and I"m 40 we group up i can delevel to 20 and help you and get xp as well.

You can do that in CoX as well.  'Exemplar'-ing I think they call it.  Hell, you can sidekick an entire group in CoX now.

Not in WoW, ergo has never existed in the mind of current MMOG producers everywhere.

[Nebu]

I was under the assumption that leveling to the endgame in SWTOR was primarily a story-driven (read: solo) affair?  Wouldn't that reduce the need for a sidekick system?

[Mrbloodworth]

I was under the assumption that leveling to the endgame in SWTOR was primarily a story-driven (read: solo) affair?  Wouldn't that reduce the need for a sidekick system?

Sidekicks are good if you outplay a SO.

[Nebu]

Sidekicks are good if you outplay a SO.

Are you suggesting that most MMO gamers could get a date? 

[Mrbloodworth]

Sidekicks are good if you outplay a SO.

Are you suggesting that most MMO gamers could get a date? 

Well, no. But thats a reason I would enjoy one.

Silly.

[kildorn]

Sidekicks are good if you outplay a SO.

Are you suggesting that most MMO gamers could get a date? 

If anything, my modern MMO playing has taught me that odd numbered group membership caps cause drama due to the number of couples playing.

[Nebu]

All joking aside, I would love to see a mechanism like EQ2 had for helping people of lower level.  You gained experience for helping.  That's positive reinforcement for supporting new players.  Seems to be a great recruiting tool. 

[Tyrnan]

All joking aside, I would love to see a mechanism like EQ2 had for helping people of lower level.  You gained experience for helping.  That's positive reinforcement for supporting new players.  Seems to be a great recruiting tool. 

The only problem I had with the EQ2 implementation of that was that mentors ended up being ridiculously overpowered compared to lower level content and you had them soloing entire dungeons while the rest of the group stood around scratching their butts. I remember the CoX system being much better in that regard but then there wasn't any equipment to scale in CoX.

[Numtini]

I think COX has a big advantage because all their content scales. Most people in EQ2 accepted long ago that mentoring was a power leveling tool.

[koro]

I was under the assumption that leveling to the endgame in SWTOR was primarily a story-driven (read: solo) affair?  Wouldn't that reduce the need for a sidekick system?

Anyone can participate in your storyline alongside you.

Also the TOR forums are infuriating. The amount of people who adamantly hate any form of an LFG system more automated than "stand around and spam an LFG channel for hours" is astounding.

Because it builds community!

[Sky]

I was under the assumption that leveling to the endgame in SWTOR was primarily a story-driven (read: solo) affair?  Wouldn't that reduce the need for a sidekick system?

Not really. Storylines seem to be a diminishing portion of the game as you level up. And as koro says, you can bring groups into the story instances, they just can't see your dialog (from SDCC footage, anyway). I think the first group instance is pretty early on, level 10?


As far as the forums, the best they can do is ignore the hell out of them. The Rift pre-launch forums were hilarious.

[Evildrider]

I was under the assumption that leveling to the endgame in SWTOR was primarily a story-driven (read: solo) affair?  Wouldn't that reduce the need for a sidekick system?

Anyone can participate in your storyline alongside you.

Also the TOR forums are infuriating. The amount of people who adamantly hate any form of an LFG system more automated than "stand around and spam an LFG channel for hours" is astounding.

Because it builds community!

Because it does help build community, besides they just don't want cross server LFD.  In WoW people in your LFD's might as well just be random bots.  When people playing together are all on the same server, you tend to at least say hello or socialize a little bit.  Plus if you are good or an asshole you may build up a reputation based on your actions.

Also you can get away with doing some of the dungeons with just 2 people and your companions.

[Paelos]

Yep, I don't want cross-server LFD in SWTOR