SWTOR

[Lucas]

Community Manager Stephen Reid posted this:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6619963#edit6619963


...And later added a small correction :

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6623837#edit6623837

[Murgos]

Sounds like collecors box/pre-order bonus stuff.

[luckton]

I'll settle for open beta if they can't clamp down a release yet 

[Sky]

Zero point zero interest in testing this game.

[Bunk]

Agreed. Its a story based game - the last thing I'd want to do is play around with it half built. I might start thinking I was playing KOTOR II again...

[Shatter]

Tired of all current MMO's.  Willing to play half - ass Star Wars game...god forgive me

[Lantyssa]

That space combat looks so MEH.

And knowing it's a rail shooter makes it an even bigger 'meh'.

[luckton]

That space combat looks so MEH.

And knowing it's a rail shooter makes it an even bigger 'meh'.

This is going to sound fanboy-ish, but how many times do the devs have to say "We only put it in because George made us and it's not really what the game is all about" before we can move on from this?  It's on-rails, it's a sidegame type of thing (think WoW Fishing or FFXI's card-game).  Pretty sure that post-launch they'll come back to it and make improvements over time.  It's not like they can make the space combat as they have it right now any worse.

[Lucas]

New video now available on Origin.com (you'll notice the link on the homepage of that site):

http://www.origin.com/

After watching it, I think it's just a preview of the new CGI video they will show (maybe) today, together with sequences from the two previous ones.

[Sky]

I don't think they even open the TOR booth until tomorrow.

[Lantyssa]

This is going to sound fanboy-ish, but how many times do the devs have to say "We only put it in because George made us and it's not really what the game is all about" before we can move on from this?  It's on-rails, it's a sidegame type of thing (think WoW Fishing or FFXI's card-game).  Pretty sure that post-launch they'll come back to it and make improvements over time.  It's not like they can make the space combat as they have it right now any worse.

Every time someone mentions space in a game set in space.

[Mrbloodworth]

I feel like I need a Wii gun looking at that space part.

[Lucas]

And here it is for real, this time: "Return" intro cinematic (6m 20secs):

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/return

[Draegan]

They should of just made movies.

[Ingmar]

I could not care less about the space stuff. I'm happy they're not spending a bunch of time on making a space shooter sim and getting distracted from the main part of the game, really.

[luckton]

Blur makes good movies.

FTFY.  They also did the shorts for DCUO too.

[Draegan]

Isn't that what I just said?  The $1 Billion they used to make this game should of just made some kickass movies.

[Lantyssa]

I could not care less about the space stuff. I'm happy they're not spending a bunch of time on making a space shooter sim and getting distracted from the main part of the game, really.

Good for you?  I like space shooters.  Maybe I wish they'd spend more time on it than duplicating WoW for the ground game.

If they're putting in a system, whether they want it or it's required, it should be fun.  Otherwise don't put anything in because then it's just a waste of resources and it leaves player's unhappy.

[Murgos]

Starfox was fun.  I thought so anyway.

So was Rogue Squadron.

[luckton]

I like how the intro movie kinda montages all the great moments from the actual movies into 6 minutes.  

[luckton]

Starfox was fun.  I thought so anyway.

QFT

[Ingmar]

I could not care less about the space stuff. I'm happy they're not spending a bunch of time on making a space shooter sim and getting distracted from the main part of the game, really.

Good for you?  I like space shooters.  Maybe I wish they'd spend more time on it than duplicating WoW for the ground game.

If they're putting in a system, whether they want it or it's required, it should be fun.  Otherwise don't put anything in because then it's just a waste of resources and it leaves player's unhappy.

I'm not sure either of us are in any position to say whether it is fun or not yet, but this is just kind of a palate-cleansing minigame between locations from the looks of it. It doesn't need to be super deep. (It probably does need to be skippable.)

Let's just agree to disagree and make fun of Draegan for still getting 'should of' wrong.

[Velorath]

Starfox was fun.  I thought so anyway.

So was Rogue Squadron.

Indeed, as were the Panzer Dragoon games and the Star Wars Trilogy arcade game.

[Sky]

I like how the intro movie kinda montages all the great moments from the actual movies into 6 minutes.  

I was thinking the same thing. Blur is continuing what Bioware did with KotOR, exceeding everything but the original trilogy.

On the space thing, yeah I wish it was more JtL. I'm not going to ignore the good stuff because it's not something I think it should be. In fact, a focused but exciting linear space mini-game could in some ways beat a sometimes boring and content-poor open space sim.

And Draegan, he's just not going to like TOR. Rift is the game for him, race to the end and grind.

[Soln]

wish the models were more photorealistic (like GW2).   Those movies are terrific but then switching to look at the game and the combat it's seems slow and uninspiring in comparison.

[Murgos]

I've done a 180 on my earlier stance on the graphic style.  Watching it in action on the leaked beta stuff in full screen HD, I bought it.

Same with the 'fully voiced quest dialog'.  (Sky wins this round  )

[Soln]

fair enough -- I want SWTOR to succeed so I'll have to wait for the actual game for a real judgment

also, nice to see in that clip Smugglers being badass

[Sjofn]

If the dude smugglers get tight little Han Solo pants I might have to play a boy one instead of a girl one. 

[Draegan]

Smuggler checking out the Chiss? whatever's ass was funny.

[Fordel]

Was a Twilek. Head Tails give it away.

[ghost]

I like how the intro movie kinda montages all the great moments from the actual movies into 6 minutes.  

Han Solo as Indiana Jones?  Check.
Crazy guns from Aliens?  Check.
Clone troopers?  Check.
Guy fighting with two lightsabers, one of which is a dual blade?  Check (c'mon, we all wanted to see it and it was the logical progression)
Obi Wan Kenobi "get out of here while I die" moment?  Check.
Funny shaped Star Destroyers?  Check.
Funny shaped Millennium Falcon?  Check.
Droidekas?  Check.


Find a way to work in the One Ring and possibly some dragons and we'll be set.  


Edit:  Now that I think about it for a bit, the only thing really missing was extremely slow and cumbersome beasts of burden. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

The spaceship game would b great if when travelling to a new planet for the first time you had to do it but could skip it any other time. Then is you wanted you could always do that mission for gold medals/stars whatever.   So get a five star rating in so many space battles and you get a new ship, or something like that, not necessary but fun and worth putting time into.

[Mosesandstick]

That trailer was bloody cheesy but I guess SW gets away with it. Still enjoyable.

[luckton]

Well ya'll can stop holding out...no release date at E3


Do we get the pitchforks now or wait till we see all they have to offer?

[Malakili]

That intro cinematic is ironically simultaneously everything I love about Star Wars and the exact reason every Star Wars game fails to replicate those things.  When I see that it makes me want to take up Kendo more than play SWTOR.