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eldaec
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Reply #2555 on: November 19, 2009, 01:52:59 PM


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Reply #2556 on: November 19, 2009, 01:56:54 PM

If SWTOR has PvP servers- Imperial Agent and Smuggler will be most popular, since they have stealth.  Jedi and Sith will be surprisingly low pop on PvP servers, since they are melee and melee exist only to get AOE raped when they get bored with the Hillsbrad shuffle (plus, the devs will overcompensate against calls of "JEDI R OVERPOWERED" by making them chronically underpowered).

Because as we all know, there has never been a MMOG which has ever had overpowered tanks or underpowered aoe classes, or useless stealthers.


Seriously, what is this shit? Does VN have an f13 skin now?

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Reply #2557 on: November 19, 2009, 02:03:01 PM


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Reply #2558 on: November 19, 2009, 04:38:04 PM

SB's class system was the best ever but the balance was not good.  It took some time for the ridiculous builds to start but once they did it was reroll something good or get ready to get your shit pushed in time.

Original OP:
Dwarf + defensive shit + Prelate = win.
Birdguy + Barb + throwing weaps = win.
Centaur + stuff for speed + anything = win.

For awhile very early on the one fire casting class was just OP period, but they got nerfed quickly.  Druids were very good at launch.  The scouts and stealthers had their own awesome minigame that had nothing to do with the rest of us.

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Reply #2559 on: November 19, 2009, 05:53:04 PM

Did I just read someone say that Jedi as melee would lose to ranged?
If by "would" lose, you mean in canon, then usually no.  If you mean in SWTOR, then yes.  Jedi will not be any more powerful than your average blaster-carrying pimp in a gold llame cape. 
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Reply #2560 on: November 20, 2009, 05:15:24 PM

SB had some fantastic character development ideas, it was not balanced though. As mentioned above dwarf prelates were essentially unkillable, channelers were a caster that had best in game heals and dps, the mechanics initially created an environment where the 'stack' was the most effective offensive formation.

All that being said,  Haemish is still right. With all those flaws it was still better than any pvp game that has followed it - in terms of character development. Even the badly balanced stuff wasn't battle breaking. Shame about all the other game breaking bugs.

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Reply #2561 on: November 20, 2009, 05:54:44 PM

PVP in SWTOR, should it even exist outside of /duel, will be hobbled together out of shoestring, hopes and dreams and never approach what one would call "fun." I'm not sure why anyone would even ask or wonder about it. But then, some people enjoy WoW PVP, so who knows. The bar may be so low that it doesn't matter.
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Reply #2562 on: November 20, 2009, 06:36:21 PM


I liked Hellgate, so I am doomed to purchase this game.

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Reply #2563 on: November 22, 2009, 09:05:27 PM

www.swtor-station.com

Check out the first article (upper right corner of the site has a translate-to-English button).

Apparently the last two classes will be revealed by MMORPG.com on Dec. 3rd- but the German PC mag is getting mailed to people in Germany today.  We should know in another 5 or 6 hours the last two classes.

Fairly solid rumor has it we are going to see the Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor (the Force "caster classes"). 

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Reply #2564 on: November 22, 2009, 09:11:57 PM

AKA: The Healers  awesome, for real

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #2565 on: November 22, 2009, 11:08:13 PM

I think I speak for everyone when I say that these class reveals are totally amazing, shocking and awesome in their creativity and unexpectedness.

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Reply #2566 on: November 22, 2009, 11:40:45 PM

Jedi were shooting fireballs in the movies all the time! Don't hate  awesome, for real

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Reply #2567 on: November 23, 2009, 01:10:52 AM

I guess it's better than Star Trek Online having healer ships. I'll give it that.

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Reply #2568 on: November 23, 2009, 05:59:58 AM



Man that looks terrible. I should have saved it as a PNG, but I'm not about to redo it now.

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Reply #2569 on: November 23, 2009, 07:37:25 AM

EDIT:  Removed link to mag scans, as admins on the SWTOR boards are indicating that is a no-no.  Go to www.swtor.com and you can find the confirmation I speak of below. 

Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor confirmed.  That Consular outfit perfectly channels the Fabulous Side of the Force.  

« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 08:05:04 AM by Triforcer »

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Reply #2570 on: November 23, 2009, 08:06:11 AM

How completely  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #2571 on: November 23, 2009, 08:24:20 AM

Not a fan of these two, honestly. I was hoping for  diplomat/general  (both those words only used as such, of course, given the combat/action oriented style of this product), acting as buffer/crowd control classes but with some nice twists when coming to  personal story arcs (featuring more dialogues/choices compared to the other classes).

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Reply #2572 on: November 23, 2009, 08:26:24 AM

EDIT:  Removed link to mag scans, as admins on the SWTOR boards are indicating that is a no-no.  Go to www.swtor.com and you can find the confirmation I speak of below. 

Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor confirmed.  That Consular outfit perfectly channels the Fabulous Side of the Force.  



Really? That is hilarious. (not the classes are in that was obviously coming)  What has Bioware gone bush league on us now?
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Reply #2573 on: November 23, 2009, 08:48:15 AM

EDIT:  Removed link to mag scans, as admins on the SWTOR boards are indicating that is a no-no.  Go to www.swtor.com and you can find the confirmation I speak of below. 

Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor confirmed.  That Consular outfit perfectly channels the Fabulous Side of the Force.  



Really? That is hilarious. (not the classes are in that was obviously coming)  What has Bioware gone bush league on us now?

 Facepalm

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Reply #2574 on: November 23, 2009, 06:41:38 PM

Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, that's awful.

And thiiiiis is where the Austin in BioWare really shines.

Edit:  clarity.
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Reply #2575 on: November 23, 2009, 08:07:32 PM

So I can't be a droid interpreter? cry

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #2576 on: November 23, 2009, 08:26:41 PM

So I can't be a droid interpreter? cry


I say you just RP one regardless!

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #2577 on: November 23, 2009, 09:41:18 PM

Good idea.  I'll fake it with bounty hunter armor.

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Reply #2578 on: November 23, 2009, 09:46:00 PM

« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 09:57:11 PM by schild »
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Reply #2579 on: November 23, 2009, 10:33:07 PM

I see they're stealing shoulder armor from WoW...

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #2580 on: November 23, 2009, 11:15:46 PM

Sleep spells and killer worms.

Got it.

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Reply #2581 on: November 23, 2009, 11:18:34 PM

It just turned into a Ken Russell movie.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #2582 on: November 24, 2009, 03:13:40 AM

Where are the scans from? Seriously, the "alst of the eight classes"? "Tottaly"? Whole sentences read like Babelfish translations.
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Reply #2583 on: November 24, 2009, 04:36:23 AM

That's because they are.

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Reply #2584 on: November 24, 2009, 05:33:22 AM

Ah. I found out they are from the german PC Games, made to look like actual magazine scans. The original scans can be found here (in german):

http://www.starwarsmmo.net/news/pc-games-magazine-reveals-jedi-consular-and-sith-inquisitor/

Both seem to be support/ranged DPS hybrids.
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Reply #2585 on: November 24, 2009, 06:57:39 AM

Why is that Jedi Consular making the shape of a vagina with her hands?
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Reply #2586 on: November 24, 2009, 07:27:57 AM

She is suggesting a peaceful alternative to conflict. That's called diplomacy.

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Reply #2587 on: November 24, 2009, 07:38:47 AM

The Sith Inquisitor appears to be wearing a Go-Bot costume.

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Reply #2588 on: November 24, 2009, 07:40:46 AM

She is suggesting a peaceful alternative to conflict. That's called diplomacy.

Or depending on the person, just a different type of conflict.
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Reply #2589 on: November 24, 2009, 08:46:31 AM

Space Nun!


-edit- There is a small bit of cleverness in making your Tank and Healer classes both Jedi's, insuring (ensuring?) you have plenty of both.

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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