eldaec
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WOW Hellgate with lightsabers.
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eldaec
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If SWTOR has PvP servers- Imperial Agent and Smuggler will be most popular, since they have stealth. Jedi and Sith will be surprisingly low pop on PvP servers, since they are melee and melee exist only to get AOE raped when they get bored with the Hillsbrad shuffle (plus, the devs will overcompensate against calls of "JEDI R OVERPOWERED" by making them chronically underpowered).
Because as we all know, there has never been a MMOG which has ever had overpowered tanks or underpowered aoe classes, or useless stealthers. Seriously, what is this shit? Does VN have an f13 skin now?
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"People will not assume that what they read on the internet is trustworthy or that it carries any particular assurance or accuracy" - Lord Leveson "Hyperbole is a cancer" - Lakov Sanite
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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Hoax
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l33t kiddie
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SB's class system was the best ever but the balance was not good. It took some time for the ridiculous builds to start but once they did it was reroll something good or get ready to get your shit pushed in time.
Original OP: Dwarf + defensive shit + Prelate = win. Birdguy + Barb + throwing weaps = win. Centaur + stuff for speed + anything = win.
For awhile very early on the one fire casting class was just OP period, but they got nerfed quickly. Druids were very good at launch. The scouts and stealthers had their own awesome minigame that had nothing to do with the rest of us.
'sb.exe' doesn't piss me off nearly as much as 'siege hammer'
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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LK
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Did I just read someone say that Jedi as melee would lose to ranged?
If by "would" lose, you mean in canon, then usually no. If you mean in SWTOR, then yes. Jedi will not be any more powerful than your average blaster-carrying pimp in a gold llame cape. Reason #1,372 that Star Wars is the best setting ever for an MMOG.
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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SB had some fantastic character development ideas, it was not balanced though. As mentioned above dwarf prelates were essentially unkillable, channelers were a caster that had best in game heals and dps, the mechanics initially created an environment where the 'stack' was the most effective offensive formation.
All that being said, Haemish is still right. With all those flaws it was still better than any pvp game that has followed it - in terms of character development. Even the badly balanced stuff wasn't battle breaking. Shame about all the other game breaking bugs.
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Speaking of marketing, we're out of milk.
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schild
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PVP in SWTOR, should it even exist outside of /duel, will be hobbled together out of shoestring, hopes and dreams and never approach what one would call "fun." I'm not sure why anyone would even ask or wonder about it. But then, some people enjoy WoW PVP, so who knows. The bar may be so low that it doesn't matter.
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Oban
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WOW Hellgate with lightsabers.
I liked Hellgate, so I am doomed to purchase this game.
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Palin 2012 : Let's go out with a bang!
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Triforcer
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www.swtor-station.comCheck out the first article (upper right corner of the site has a translate-to-English button). Apparently the last two classes will be revealed by MMORPG.com on Dec. 3rd- but the German PC mag is getting mailed to people in Germany today. We should know in another 5 or 6 hours the last two classes. Fairly solid rumor has it we are going to see the Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor (the Force "caster classes").
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All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu. This is the truth! This is my belief! At least for now...
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Fordel
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AKA: The Healers 
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Margalis
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I think I speak for everyone when I say that these class reveals are totally amazing, shocking and awesome in their creativity and unexpectedness.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Triforcer
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Jedi were shooting fireballs in the movies all the time! Don't hate 
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All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu. This is the truth! This is my belief! At least for now...
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Margalis
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I guess it's better than Star Trek Online having healer ships. I'll give it that.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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WindupAtheist
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Badicalthon
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 Man that looks terrible. I should have saved it as a PNG, but I'm not about to redo it now.
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"You're just a dick who quotes himself in his sig." -- Schild "Yeah, it's pretty awesome." -- Me
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Triforcer
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EDIT: Removed link to mag scans, as admins on the SWTOR boards are indicating that is a no-no. Go to www.swtor.com and you can find the confirmation I speak of below. Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor confirmed. That Consular outfit perfectly channels the Fabulous Side of the Force.
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 08:05:04 AM by Triforcer »
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All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu. This is the truth! This is my belief! At least for now...
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Draegan
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How completely 
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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Not a fan of these two, honestly. I was hoping for diplomat/general (both those words only used as such, of course, given the combat/action oriented style of this product), acting as buffer/crowd control classes but with some nice twists when coming to personal story arcs (featuring more dialogues/choices compared to the other classes).
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" He's so impatient, it's like watching a teenager fuck a glorious older woman." - Ironwood on J.J. Abrams
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Malakili
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EDIT: Removed link to mag scans, as admins on the SWTOR boards are indicating that is a no-no. Go to www.swtor.com and you can find the confirmation I speak of below. Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor confirmed. That Consular outfit perfectly channels the Fabulous Side of the Force. Really? That is hilarious. (not the classes are in that was obviously coming) What has Bioware gone bush league on us now?
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Rasix
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I am the harbinger of your doom!
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EDIT: Removed link to mag scans, as admins on the SWTOR boards are indicating that is a no-no. Go to www.swtor.com and you can find the confirmation I speak of below. Jedi Consular and Sith Inquisitor confirmed. That Consular outfit perfectly channels the Fabulous Side of the Force. Really? That is hilarious. (not the classes are in that was obviously coming) What has Bioware gone bush league on us now? 
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SnakeCharmer
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Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, that's awful.
And thiiiiis is where the Austin in BioWare really shines.
Edit: clarity.
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Lantyssa
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So I can't be a droid interpreter? 
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Fordel
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So I can't be a droid interpreter?  I say you just RP one regardless!
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Lantyssa
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Good idea. I'll fake it with bounty hunter armor.
Hello. I am N-0OB. Let me school you... on language.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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schild
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 09:57:11 PM by schild »
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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I see they're stealing shoulder armor from WoW...
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Margalis
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Sleep spells and killer worms.
Got it.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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It just turned into a Ken Russell movie.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Kageh
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Where are the scans from? Seriously, the "alst of the eight classes"? "Tottaly"? Whole sentences read like Babelfish translations.
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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That's because they are.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Kageh
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SnakeCharmer
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Why is that Jedi Consular making the shape of a vagina with her hands?
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NowhereMan
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She is suggesting a peaceful alternative to conflict. That's called diplomacy.
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Stormwaltz
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Nothing in this post represents the views of my current or previous employers.
"Isn't that just like an elf? Brings a spell to a gun fight."
"Sci-Fi writers don't invent the future, they market it." - Henry Cobb
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AutomaticZen
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She is suggesting a peaceful alternative to conflict. That's called diplomacy.
Or depending on the person, just a different type of conflict.
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Fordel
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Space Nun!
-edit- There is a small bit of cleverness in making your Tank and Healer classes both Jedi's, insuring (ensuring?) you have plenty of both.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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