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Fordel
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Reply #1015 on: May 13, 2009, 08:22:18 AM

I don't get the big deal with the Trooper name.


No one gives a shit when we call stuff Paladin or Mage instead of Holy Crusader of Justice or Magistrix of Arcana.

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Reply #1016 on: May 13, 2009, 08:28:37 AM

That's because "Trooper" sounds like "Pooper"

As for Jango taking out the jedi he took out (and it was only one) he took him out because he was too close and unprepared for blocking multiple blasters.

Also, his eyes were on the fucking sides of his head so he couldn't see shit.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #1017 on: May 13, 2009, 08:58:20 AM

If EU is thrown into the mix a little, Jango actually killed newbie Jedi with a bit more regularity (once with his bare hands).  And to take it a bit further, it has been explained that Jango's real motivation for letting the Kaminoans use him as a clone template was to get revenge on the Jedi for a battle against them that he once lost.  And, technically, all the little clone Jangos running around did, in fact, end up killing nearly all the Jedi.

Also, there is an argument that Mace beat him so easily because he got his ass run over and his equipment malfunctioned.

That said, the average Jedi still clobbers the average Bounty Hunter.


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Reply #1018 on: May 13, 2009, 09:09:18 AM

I'd like to see some kind of squad-system for troopers just because it's an interesting mechanic that hasn't ever been done really well before, even without considering the idea that it would really make more sense overall and seem to fit the setting better.  But then, maybe the reason it's never been done well (without pausing) is because our limited interface makes it difficult to control ONE character when that character has dozens or more abilities, much less multiple avatars.

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Reply #1019 on: May 13, 2009, 09:13:09 AM

It would be interesting, though.  Instead of creating a single trooper toon, you create Omega Squad, the elite team of commandos.  It would be tough, all right, and inexperienced players would fairly get slaughtered by noob Jedi.  But once you get it working...you still get slaughtered by noob Jedi, probably.  But at least you have a full squad!

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Reply #1020 on: May 13, 2009, 09:51:46 AM

If EU is thrown into the mix a little, Jango actually killed newbie Jedi with a bit more regularity (once with his bare hands).  And to take it a bit further, it has been explained that Jango's real motivation for letting the Kaminoans use him as a clone template was to get revenge on the Jedi for a battle against them that he once lost.  And, technically, all the little clone Jangos running around did, in fact, end up killing nearly all the Jedi.

Also, there is an argument that Mace beat him so easily because he got his ass run over and his equipment malfunctioned.

That said, the average Jedi still clobbers the average Bounty Hunter.

This is a lot of work just to fit some logic around a fevered dream of a fat hack director.

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Reply #1021 on: May 13, 2009, 10:25:15 AM

That's the very essence of the entirety of the EU collection. Six movies. 200 books. You do the math  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? Every single throwaway thing in the movies from the Rancor down to the Jawa has at least half a novel dedicated to it.

The abomination that is the extended universe includes bullshit like trainee jedi wrenching star destroyers out of orbit WITH THEIR MIND.

To be fair, there were a dozen or so Jedi channeling through that clone guy at the top of a temple specifically decided for channeling and focus. And Daala was a stupid fleet commander.

@Merusk: Good point about the sonics, but it just reinforces the stupidity of rushing them head on.
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Reply #1022 on: May 13, 2009, 11:32:48 AM

I don't get the big deal with the Trooper name.


No one gives a shit when we call stuff Paladin or Mage instead of Holy Crusader of Justice or Magistrix of Arcana.

We don't use "Paladin" in real life.  However, a Trooper is the same as the guy giving us speeding tickets.  There were so many more good choices (as simple as "Republic Elite Forces") they could have went with.  Its not a huge point, but I ddo wonder how much thought they put into the name.

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Reply #1023 on: May 13, 2009, 11:34:50 AM

To be fair, there were a dozen or so Jedi channeling through that clone guy at the top of a temple specifically decided for channeling and focus. And Daala was a stupid fleet commander.

And doing so killed his clone ass dead.
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Reply #1024 on: May 13, 2009, 11:40:29 AM

That's the very essence of the entirety of the EU collection. Six movies. 200 books. You do the math  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? Every single throwaway thing in the movies from the Rancor down to the Jawa has at least half a novel dedicated to it.

Oh, I know.  I didn't just become a nerd this morning.  Sometimes I like making obvious comments.  Ohhhhh, I see.

Also I say Jango just had a bit of bad luck at an unfortunate time.  Possibly Mace is really good but it was so hard to tell because of the shit acting. Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #1025 on: May 13, 2009, 11:46:49 AM

I don't get the big deal with the Trooper name.


No one gives a shit when we call stuff Paladin or Mage instead of Holy Crusader of Justice or Magistrix of Arcana.

We don't use "Paladin" in real life.  However, a Trooper is the same as the guy giving us speeding tickets.  There were so many more good choices (as simple as "Republic Elite Forces") they could have went with.  Its not a huge point, but I ddo wonder how much thought they put into the name.


Seems like a good name to me, since it also ties up how we got Clone and Storm troopers and all that. They could have just called them Soldier like in KOTOR.

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #1026 on: May 13, 2009, 11:48:39 AM

Trooper fits.  This is Star Wars, not some fancy literary work.

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Reply #1027 on: May 13, 2009, 11:59:23 AM

Wasn't there some worm creature in one of the Tim Zahn books that negated the Force?  Maybe Troopers can use that.
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Reply #1028 on: May 13, 2009, 12:03:09 PM

Oh, I am sure everyone will be covered in cortosis and ysalamiris and shit. 

...now I feel ashamed I knew that without looking it up.   ACK!

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Reply #1029 on: May 13, 2009, 12:10:12 PM

As you should!

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #1030 on: May 13, 2009, 12:59:05 PM

Squad idea sounds interesting. An easy way to maintain player attachment would be to make the player character a squad commander with (as has been suggested) slotting other troopers in and out like abilities. You get access to medics, troopers, heavy troopers and your own commander with each having a selection of possible skills (maybe some sort of branching system). Troopers having perhaps a versatile set, medics being heal/defence buffs, heavy troopers being pure attacking and the commander getting offensive buffs, that kind of thing. Make the abilities themselves relatively less powerful than single characters but your ability to cool down is based on the number of that type in the squad so one kitted out with all medics could do a half decent healer job with good buffs. Of course the other problem with that approach is that instead of having to display a model for every player on screen you need to display 5 and large scale events become a headache. Not such an issue if the gameplay is going to be heavily instanced though.

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Reply #1031 on: May 13, 2009, 02:25:29 PM

I'm amused that all this pie-in-the-sky dreaming is exactly why people were saying opening up the forums this far ahead of releasing solid information was a bad idea.

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Reply #1032 on: May 13, 2009, 02:35:19 PM

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Reply #1033 on: May 13, 2009, 03:40:01 PM

However, a Trooper is the same as the guy giving us speeding tickets.

That's regional. We certainly don't call them that in California. I mean, I'd be with you if they were calling them CHiPs or something (Blizzard's new MMO: CHiPs Online  DRILLING AND MANLINESS), but trooper is a pretty broadly useful term for this sort of thing.

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Reply #1034 on: May 13, 2009, 05:37:11 PM

Oh, I am sure everyone will be covered in cortosis and ysalamiris and shit. 

...now I feel ashamed I knew that without looking it up.   ACK!

Instead of using a stupid anti-force tequila worm, Thrawn should have gotten a real clue and found some way to negate a hero's plot immunity.



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Reply #1035 on: May 13, 2009, 06:22:04 PM

Thrawn. Man, talk about a guy dying like a bitch... He was doing so good too.
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Reply #1036 on: May 14, 2009, 08:24:57 AM

Which gets released first: TOR or Gizka's KotOR 2 restoration?

 why so serious? Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #1037 on: May 14, 2009, 08:30:10 AM

Which gets released first: TOR or Gizka's KotOR 2 restoration?

 why so serious? Ohhhhh, I see.

First?
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Reply #1038 on: May 14, 2009, 08:36:27 AM

I think what you were going for there was: Released?

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Reply #1039 on: May 14, 2009, 08:37:12 AM

I think what you were going for there was: Released?

think?

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Reply #1040 on: May 14, 2009, 08:43:29 AM

I may have been exaggerating swamp poop

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Reply #1041 on: May 14, 2009, 08:57:34 AM

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Reply #1042 on: May 14, 2009, 09:51:40 AM


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Reply #1043 on: May 14, 2009, 09:58:54 AM


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Reply #1044 on: May 14, 2009, 11:14:36 AM

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Reply #1045 on: May 14, 2009, 12:19:03 PM


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Reply #1046 on: May 14, 2009, 12:20:27 PM

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Reply #1047 on: May 14, 2009, 12:45:57 PM

Ethnically ambiguous Revan is dubious of this thread.



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Reply #1048 on: May 14, 2009, 12:47:57 PM

Ethnically ambiguous Revan needs to visit the pig farm.


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Reply #1049 on: May 14, 2009, 02:31:46 PM

Do you know what "nemesis" means?

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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