SWTOR

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Pretty sure the one-two of the NDA and release date will push this way past 300. Maybe we should aim for 400.

If EA announce that SWOR is launching at anywhere over $15 a month, I suspect this thread could go over 9000.

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[Soln]

what's the latest speculation on when this will go live?

[Tearofsoul]

Nov

[ajax34i]

You guys are expecting $20 / month; I think it'll be $40.

[luckton]

$20 a month is a no-go for me, unless some EA intern is sent to my house on the 1st of every month to deliver a blow job prior to picking up the money.

[Evildrider]

I doubt that EA would risk going to a 20 dollar a month model on this big of a game.  I think most companies are gonna see who is brave/stupid enough to make that leap.

[tmp]

Maybe they'll price it at $10 for the first character and extra $5 for every one after that 

[Mrbloodworth]

$20 a month is a no-go for me, unless some EA intern is sent to my house on the 1st of every month to deliver a blow job prior to picking up the money.

[Sky]

How dare a subscription service adjust for inflation. Why, in my day we paid a SHINY QUARTER for our online worlds and WE FUCKING LIKED IT. Also, I lost my leg in the pvp so you goddamned hippy kids could sit around in yer pve server so don't you goddamned complain about some nancy boy bullshit, why if I had a good leg I'd come over there and whup the tarnation out of you, ya goddamned sonofa, I always knew yer daddy was trouble, tried to warn yer mama, but no she just had to go foolin' around and now you sit around crying about twenty bucks a month when the jump from $10 to $15 took just about the same amount of time and half of you pimple faced maroons were still in grade school then and whinin you'd have to mow an extra five yards to get the money (who are we fooling, you just cried and whined to yer mammy until she ponied up to shut yer trap) and now that yer all 'growed up' (so to speak, cuz you ain't), a measly $5 bucks is makin you all 'the sky is fallin' when you will probably only play the motherfucking thing for the free month and declare doom and go back to your shitty wow garbage anyway.

[Malakili]

How dare a subscription service adjust for inflation. Why, in my day we paid a SHINY QUARTER for our online worlds and WE FUCKING LIKED IT. Also, I lost my leg in the pvp so you goddamned hippy kids could sit around in yer pve server so don't you goddamned complain about some nancy boy bullshit, why if I had a good leg I'd come over there and whup the tarnation out of you, ya goddamned sonofa, I always knew yer daddy was trouble, tried to warn yer mama, but no she just had to go foolin' around and now you sit around crying about twenty bucks a month when the jump from $10 to $15 took just about the same amount of time and half of you pimple faced maroons were still in grade school then and whinin you'd have to mow an extra five yards to get the money (who are we fooling, you just cried and whined to yer mammy until she ponied up to shut yer trap) and now that yer all 'growed up' (so to speak, cuz you ain't), a measly $5 bucks is makin you all 'the sky is fallin' when you will probably only play the motherfucking thing for the free month and declare doom and go back to your shitty wow garbage anyway.

I don't think its a trivial concern.  I'll barely pay for an MMO anymore to begin with.  Its going to have to be pretty damned good just to get me to sub in the first place, and increased price per month only means its going to have to impress me even more.  Not to mention there are quite a lot of good games coming out this fall/winter, which means that its got to directly compete with those for my limited gaming time.  A 20 bucks a month price tag is only going to make me lean further away from it, fair or not.

[luckton]

How dare a subscription service adjust for inflation. Why, in my day we paid a SHINY QUARTER for our online worlds and WE FUCKING LIKED IT. Also, I lost my leg in the pvp so you goddamned hippy kids could sit around in yer pve server so don't you goddamned complain about some nancy boy bullshit, why if I had a good leg I'd come over there and whup the tarnation out of you, ya goddamned sonofa, I always knew yer daddy was trouble, tried to warn yer mama, but no she just had to go foolin' around and now you sit around crying about twenty bucks a month when the jump from $10 to $15 took just about the same amount of time and half of you pimple faced maroons were still in grade school then and whinin you'd have to mow an extra five yards to get the money (who are we fooling, you just cried and whined to yer mammy until she ponied up to shut yer trap) and now that yer all 'growed up' (so to speak, cuz you ain't), a measly $5 bucks is makin you all 'the sky is fallin' when you will probably only play the motherfucking thing for the free month and declare doom and go back to your shitty wow garbage anyway.

Shut up, old man.  

If the game comes out and punches the 800 lbs. gorilla in the throat and takes the crown, they can certainly try justifying a cost increase down the road, because I believe "hey guys, we really want to keep these voice actors paid along with all the other high-end stuff that's new and modern compared to the previous generation, but we need a little more monies".  But right out of the gate?  Frack that.

And in reality, frack even trying to justify.  In an interview with SquareEnix a few months ago, they were quoted as saying that it doesn't really matter if they make a profit off of FFIX and XIV.  If there's an interest in the games, they just pour funding in from their OTHER game profits to keep the online stuff afloat.  And I'm pretty sure EA and BW make more than just MMOs.

[Hawkbit]

I put a $100 limit on my monthly media budget.  I figure that's one brand new game, one older used one and an MMO sub for the month.  That doesn't budget in for music, so sometimes I have to cut out one or two of the game options. 

I'm not saying I wouldn't spend the extra $5 if the game is worth it, but it gives me pause to consider whether I want to add that expenditure in every month. 

Also, since dropping MMOs in January, I've become much, much more productive in other aspects of my life.  Not trying to shit in anyone's cereal, but just saying from my personal experience, I never realized how much time I wasted spent in them until now. 

[Merusk]

Nobody ever does.  That's the funny part.

I don't play now like I did, but from Feb to May when I wasn't playing at all I had soooo much goddamn time.  I was driving my kids & wife nuts because I wouldn't leave them alone.

[Sky]

Yeah, since my fiancee got her laptop, she loves mmo. I sit and veg out playing that while she dicks around on facebook and good reads for hours. But I'm happy to mostly be done with Rift, I've gotten more shit done in the last week than I have in the last month.

But...I fear for my free time when TOR comes out.

[Malakili]

In terms of sheer time played, I'm much more concerened about myself with Diablo 3 than anything else.  I think I played more Diablo 2 than any MMO I've ever played, and thats saying something.

[eldaec]

If I were EA, I'd charge you $15.99/month.

Every six months an expansion pack at $40.

Content DLC at $10 a quarter, ramping up in year 2 and 3.

Total annual cost : $312 + Sparkle Ponies & XP potions



I might consider annual expansion packs and twice as much DLC - but the revenue works out the same.

This isn't what I'd like them to charge - I'd like the game to be entirely free and paid for by George Lucas as reparations for episode 2, however, if I was EA and liked money, this is what I would charge.

[Shatter]

Yeah, since my fiancee got her laptop, she loves mmo. I sit and veg out playing that while she dicks around on facebook and good reads for hours. But I'm happy to mostly be done with Rift, I've gotten more shit done in the last week than I have in the last month.

But...I fear for my free time when TOR comes out.

Ditto, first time Ive been looking forward to an MMO in years which doesnt bode well for my family ;)

[Lucas]

If I were EA, I'd charge you $15.99/month.

Every six months an expansion pack at $40.

Content DLC at $10 a quarter, ramping up in year 2 and 3.

Total annual cost : $312 + Sparkle Ponies & XP potions



I might consider annual expansion packs and twice as much DLC - but the revenue works out the same.

This isn't what I'd like them to charge - I'd like the game to be entirely free and paid for by George Lucas as reparations for episode 2, however, if I was EA and liked money, this is what I would charge.

And, on top of that, a 138GB client, don't forget that. Recipe for success.

[eldaec]

Taking the Seagate Momentus hybrid as a benchmark, you're looking at 20c per GB.

So that element is only $27.60 which we can amortise over 3 years. But if we're doing this, we should add the box cost, again over three years. So if we add in Darth Barbie edition and account for the 138 GB install we're at a total annual cost of $371.20 plus potions & mounts.

[01101010]

If I were EA, I'd charge you $15.99/month.

Every six months an expansion pack at $40.

Content DLC at $10 a quarter, ramping up in year 2 and 3.

Total annual cost : $312 + Sparkle Ponies & XP potions



I might consider annual expansion packs and twice as much DLC - but the revenue works out the same.

This isn't what I'd like them to charge - I'd like the game to be entirely free and paid for by George Lucas as reparations for episode 2, however, if I was EA and liked money, this is what I would charge.

And, on top of that, a 138GB client, don't forget that. Recipe for success.

[Nebu]

And, on top of that, a 138GB client, don't forget that. Recipe for success.

Can I tell them that I'm deaf and get the 3 GB version without voice acting? 

[Rasix]

Got one!

[Ingmar]

I think a jump to something like $15.99 or $17.99 is a lot more likely than going a full $5 increment.

[Paelos]

I think a jump to something like $15.99 or $17.99 is a lot more likely than going a full $5 increment.

Nothing in that range scares me, especially if there are significant price breaks for 3 and 6 month plans.

[Nebu]

If the game is good, I'll gladly pay $25 a month... particularly if it rids me of the Runescape/WoW-tard crowd. 

[luckton]

If the game is good, I'll gladly pay $25 a month... particularly if it rids me of the Runescape/WoW-tard crowd. 

At that rate and on that logic, we might as well get political and say that we're separating the middle class/welfare gamers from the monetary elitists 

[Mrbloodworth]

If the game is good, I'll gladly pay $25 a month... particularly if it rids me of the Runescape/WoW-tard crowd. 

Do not say such things, or it will happen.

15 is a limit not to cross.

[Ingmar]

It has to go up eventually, just to give employees cost of living raises. 

[luckton]

I just read about how Sith Inquisitors can be tanks, a la Death Knight/Rogueish tanks.

I may be changing my desire to be a force user 

[Rokal]

It has to go up eventually, just to give employees cost of living raises. 

Cash shop is an alternative to sub fee increases. Sparkle ponies are $$$ and don't really divide the community.

[eldaec]

I just read about how Sith Inquisitors can be tanks, a la Death Knight/Rogueish tanks.

I may be changing my desire to be a force user 

afaik, everyone has a tank tree except smugglers and agents, and everyone has a heal tree except knights and warriors.

[SnakeCharmer]

It has to go up eventually, just to give employees cost of living raises. 

Cash shop is an alternative to sub fee increases. Sparkle ponies are $$$ and don't really divide the community.

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[Rokal]

Depends on what the cash shop includes. Cosmetics like mounts? Not very divisive. It'll bug some people, sure, but what doesn't in an MMO? It's a pretty low-impact way to generate some extra revenue, and people that buy the cosmetics seem to like that they were offered. I have no problems with the Astral Pony or the Winged Lion in WoW.

If 5% of your population buys a sparkle pony one month for $20, that generates as much revenue that month as a $1 sub fee increase would.

[eldaec]

Xp potions are more interesting than ponies - always find it strange that potions get less discussion than mounts.

[luckton]

Xp potions are more interesting than ponies - always find it strange that potions get less discussion than mounts.

XP potions are pay-to-win.  Ponies are ponies...they aren't going to help you level any faster than the common man could.