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Reply #665 on: February 02, 2010, 02:19:04 PM

Not yet. Or you could just order it from Google directly right now.
Ohhhhh, I see. Ohhhhh, I see. Ohhhhh, I see.

K we're back to driving into France, then, when it's available there (this quarter sometime).

It's listed as in stock up on expansys . I think they also had the Milestone (GSM Droid) before anyone else before Christmas too (at least in the UK).
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Reply #666 on: February 02, 2010, 02:31:47 PM

Nexus One just got multitouch and such. Now I just have to figure out how to update mine since OTA doesn't seem to be working.
Oh shit, it's on!
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Reply #667 on: February 02, 2010, 03:22:32 PM

Nexus One just got multitouch and such. Now I just have to figure out how to update mine since OTA doesn't seem to be working.

Did you receive an OTA that's not installing or are you just impatient?

OTAs always roll initially to a small canary group (random pick small percentage of users) first, to make sure everything's going smoothly before they ramp up to the full userbase.
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Reply #668 on: February 02, 2010, 03:32:00 PM

I suppose I'm impatient, I was looking for an ADP upgrade path like with G1 dev assuming it had to go that way. But I suppose this phone doesn't fit in the Gx line of phones.
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Reply #669 on: February 02, 2010, 04:59:17 PM

"Collectible" Android figurines. Gotta catch them all! awesome, for real

http://blog.dyzplastic.com/2010/02/android-mini-collectibles.html
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Reply #670 on: February 02, 2010, 05:27:22 PM

Already planning to get a full box. So adorable.
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Reply #671 on: February 02, 2010, 05:28:10 PM

Most likely won't get a full set with a full box awesome, for real Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #672 on: February 02, 2010, 05:29:56 PM

Most likely won't get a full set with a full box awesome, for real Ohhhhh, I see.


I have bought many, many blind box boxes before (Hellsing, Naruto, One Piece, Stikfas, Disgaea, Kozik, Qee, etc). I've always gotten a full set.

Edit: Except once where there were 1-2 per CASE on a chase one.
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Reply #673 on: February 02, 2010, 05:32:41 PM

Most likely won't get a full set with a full box awesome, for real Ohhhhh, I see.


I have bought many, many blind box boxes before (Hellsing, Naruto, One Piece, Stikfas, Disgaea, Kozik, Qee, etc). I've always gotten a full set.

Edit: Except once where there were 1-2 per CASE on a chase one.
There are 12 figures. A box has 16. The article implies that even if you get an entire case you may not get a full set. This implies there are rarity levels. Let us know, though, after you get a box, what the distribution is like.
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Reply #674 on: February 02, 2010, 06:13:45 PM

I might have to buy two then, weeee.
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Reply #675 on: February 02, 2010, 06:15:20 PM

There are 12 figures. A box has 16. The article implies that even if you get an entire case you may not get a full set. This implies there are rarity levels. Let us know, though, after you get a box, what the distribution is like.

I don't know the exact breakdown, but based on the boxes we got at the office, I believe every box of 16 has the regular distribution of "regular" figures and two "rare" ones or something along those lines.  

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Series 1 features 12 different designs in blind-boxed cases of 16. Pick up a few and try your luck, or grab a whole case to secure a nearly-full set.

If you look at the sides of the small/large boxes, you can see the distribution frequency.

I'll probably buy a full box if the price is not unreasonable -- I currently have a plain green bugbot, developer bugbot (think these are not part of the regular commercial set), the bugbot-in-a-suit, and one of the "rare" ones (8bit game theme).  They're pretty cute.
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Reply #676 on: February 02, 2010, 06:16:23 PM

For schild: http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/41504-how-force-2-2-2010-ota-update.html  (assuming you have the ERD79 build)

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Reply #677 on: February 02, 2010, 06:19:28 PM

Most likely won't get a full set with a full box awesome, for real Ohhhhh, I see.


I have bought many, many blind box boxes before (Hellsing, Naruto, One Piece, Stikfas, Disgaea, Kozik, Qee, etc). I've always gotten a full set.

Edit: Except once where there were 1-2 per CASE on a chase one.

If you get two of the basic ones, I might buy them from you for a decent price.
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Reply #678 on: February 02, 2010, 07:55:57 PM

Updated my Nexus One to multitouch.  Was not quite trivial, because I'd already rooted my phone but the various developer sites are on top of things.  I do really like the phone, and the coding environment for it (for fun, no not work related!) is nicely setup. :)

Oh, and those Android figures look great. :)  Probably going to order some myself too.
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Reply #679 on: February 03, 2010, 05:36:31 AM

It's listed as in stock up on expansys . I think they also had the Milestone (GSM Droid) before anyone else before Christmas too (at least in the UK).
760€ the fuck?!

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Reply #680 on: February 03, 2010, 07:27:33 AM

Most likely won't get a full set with a full box awesome, for real Ohhhhh, I see.


I have bought many, many blind box boxes before (Hellsing, Naruto, One Piece, Stikfas, Disgaea, Kozik, Qee, etc). I've always gotten a full set.

Edit: Except once where there were 1-2 per CASE on a chase one.

If you get two of the basic ones, I might buy them from you for a decent price.
The basic green androids? I'll keep that in mind.
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Reply #681 on: February 04, 2010, 05:08:41 PM

Any idea why us Canucks cannot get the full android marketplace?
From everything I've been able to find it appears that this is on Google and they have not pushed this out for Canada.

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Reply #682 on: February 06, 2010, 06:59:55 PM

My favorite videos from the "Nexus One: The Story" series we've been posting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9qeN42KAc0&fmt=22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1sz5c-R9h0&fmt=22

Some fun videos of manufacturing and mechanical testing, probably interesting for those who haven't ever been to a consumer electronics manufacturing facility of some sort.

EDIT: forgot about the manufacturing video.  The HTC facility in Taoyuan is pretty amazing.
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Reply #683 on: February 06, 2010, 08:00:11 PM

My favorite video from the "Nexus One: The Story" series we've been posting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1sz5c-R9h0&fmt=22

Some fun video of mechanical testing, probably interesting for those who haven't ever been to a consumer electronics manufacturing facility of some sort.

My own drop test, butt-bend test and trip-over-the-charging-wire-to-send-it-flying-across-the-tile-floor test left my Nexus One unscathed.  It's nothing like watching my Razr explode into pieces at the slightest drop leaving me to search around for my SIM card.

I recently noticed on my phone's Google Talk how a contact with an Android phone has a little Android icon next to their name.  Made me wonder if there are little Android toys.  Wish I didn't stumble into this thread because now that I have seen, I want.


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Reply #684 on: February 07, 2010, 04:57:31 PM

So, I've ordered my N1 via some intl forwarding postbox in the US, all fees and taxes added up, converted to Euros come out at a guesstimated 480€, which is close of what I'd expect to pay for it unsubsidized here anyway.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #685 on: February 08, 2010, 11:11:08 AM

The uneven Exchange support on the Droid is really starting to be annoying. Got a new eval one in, tested that attachments are now working correctly (yay), but discovered a new problem. It doesn't support remote wipe (can only block the device, or delete the relationship), nor does it support the 'require a PIN' policy that you can turn on in Exchange.

Got it to work with a third party app (Touchdown.) Still don't really get why the built-in Exchange support is so clownshoes, if Google really wants to grab a good chunk of the iPhone market they need to be on top of shit like that that matters to the corporate market. Another example, I had to buy a separate app to get the thing to play the .wav file format that a lot of corporate voicemail solutions use, including Cisco and Avaya.  swamp poop

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Reply #686 on: February 08, 2010, 01:41:05 PM

The uneven Exchange support on the Droid is really starting to be annoying. Got a new eval one in, tested that attachments are now working correctly (yay), but discovered a new problem. It doesn't support remote wipe (can only block the device, or delete the relationship), nor does it support the 'require a PIN' policy that you can turn on in Exchange.
I had to buy a separate app to get the thing to play the .wav file format that a lot of corporate voicemail solutions use, including Cisco and Avaya.  swamp poop

Yeah this is a pet peeve of mine, blackberry used to be unable to play waves as well.  How a phone is able to play mp3's then doesn't even bother with wav's is beyond me.
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Reply #687 on: February 08, 2010, 10:22:32 PM

I'm kinda amazed that we can't play wav files.  I'll bug the media guys about it.

I guess technically there are a number of subformats -- any clue if it's raw pcm or some form of compression?
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Reply #688 on: February 09, 2010, 05:52:47 AM

WAV is Microsoft's pre-ASF RIFF container. It can contain various things, if supported by Video for Windows (hey, who remembers that), but practically 99.99% it's single simple PCM stream.

But hey, if you're talking with these guys, would you mind finding out whether common formats like MP3 and AAC are decoded in software, or in hardware (codec subcomponent in the CPU or something). I was always curious, but the business speak on the OpenCORE website (the media framework in Android) doesn't really hint at anything.

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Reply #689 on: February 09, 2010, 06:39:12 AM

I don't need to talk to different guys for that -- I wrote the DSP interface code for the Qualcomm SoCs we use in a bunch of products.

The answer is it depends entirely on which chipset.  Currently we don't use DSP offload for MP3/AAC playback on Qualcomm chipsets  (NexusOne, G1, Sapphire, etc) due to the DSP only handling tunneled mode, which makes doing system wide mixing rough.  There's not really a *ton* of power savings to be had due to other architectural quirks of that platform, but we are working with Qualcomm to make better use of DSP resources in future platforms.

Hardware/DSP assist is used heavily for video encode/decode on all shipping Android devices.  All mpeg4/h264/h263 decode up to 720p is handled by the DSP on nexus one, as is mpeg4 encode, for example.   Hardware OpenGL is pretty common too.
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Reply #690 on: February 09, 2010, 08:58:29 AM

Future platforms means post-Snapdragon or future Android releases? Since my phone has to step in as MP3 player all day, any power savings are always a plus.

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Reply #691 on: February 09, 2010, 12:00:28 PM

Pretty sure its GSM but I need to confirm that.
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Reply #692 on: February 09, 2010, 10:43:39 PM

More plastic figure info: http://www.deadzebra.com/dyzplastic/project-android_s1.php

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Ratio of designs:

  Standard Android: 3/16
  Hi-Voltage: 2/16
  Creature: 2/16
  CopperBot: 2/16
  Darknet: 2/16
  Octopoid: 1/16
  Albino: 1/16
  Reactor: 1/16
  Worker: 1/16
  ? ? ?: 1/32
  ? ? ?: 1/32
  ? ? ?: 1/???
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Reply #693 on: February 09, 2010, 11:27:10 PM

These are going to be ridiculously overpriced. I'm going to assume $95 for 16 or $125-$225 for 25.

Edit: Next page had a box, at 16 per box, assuming $95.
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Reply #694 on: February 09, 2010, 11:39:13 PM

Gotta love the "ultra-rares" and the "ultra-ultra-rare" awesome, for real
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Reply #695 on: February 09, 2010, 11:41:41 PM

No shit. How utterly depressing.
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Reply #696 on: February 09, 2010, 11:49:42 PM

Ah sweet sweet memories of my CCG collecting days. why so serious?
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Reply #697 on: February 09, 2010, 11:50:58 PM

I h8 u.

Work just started a sealed deck magic tournament.

And I really wanted to get the Minitotem Doppleganger blind boxes but am having trouble swallowing $125 a box.
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Reply #698 on: February 10, 2010, 12:09:52 AM

I suppose the question becomes - who has a connection in the comic book or designer toy industry who can get wholesale through DKE Toys. ( http://www.dketoys.com/ )
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Reply #699 on: February 10, 2010, 12:23:25 AM

Nevermind.

http://android-shop.deadzebra.com/

That was fun while it lasted.

It seems the fashion whore sold them through twitter and all the cases were gone in 20 minutes.

Edit: Obviously I mean that in the nicest way.



Edit 2: This was just a tiny twitter late night preview sale, Androids are not sold out. (from Twitter) (also, he uses Echofon, lol)
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