Android!

[Prospero]

The Fuck-You-iPhone 

[sigil]

from the google voice app on your phone: menu, settings. Under general,  making calls. change your selection.

I'm wondering why you need sipdroid if you have google voice, unless  you are using the phone  to  work with a preexsting setup?

Yep I have it set up in the Voice app just like that.  And in Voice (through my PC) I have it set up to dial my Gizmo5 number, which is why I need Sipdroid on my phone.  Sipdroid picks up Gizmo5.  This lets me place calls over wifi without using phone minutes.  At least in theory.  It's not working for me.

If you just use the Voice app without Sipdroid, then when you place a call Voice will use your cell phone minutes.  I think.  This is what I want to avoid with Gizmo5/Sipdroid.  But like I said I can't make Voice call Sipdroid on an outgoing call from my phone.  

I may not be explaining this clearly.

 If you place the call with google voice, it goes over the data connection of your phone, or wifi, whatever is up.  It doesn't use minutes. This is why it's not in the apple store

If you lived and worked in a place with nothing but wifi, or could get a data only plan on your phone, you'd never notice the difference, until you hit your cap on data :D

you bought it without data,does you phone plan allow for  free numbers or calling circled?

[KallDrexx]

Or out of 3G coverage :P

I decided against using GV as my primary number, mostly because a lot of reviews on the net talk about delays on phone calls and text messages.  Not worth it just to save $15 or so a month.  Meanwhile, my Droid should be here tomorrow, yay.

[ffc]

Wow then I must be doing it wrong.  So when you place your call through the Google Voice app, does Google Voice first call your phone and you pick it up, and then Google Voice dials out to your contact?  Or does it call your contact directly after you select one?

On my PC, when I log into Google Voice and place a call Google Voice first calls me back on my PC (and Gizmo5 picks it up) and then Google Voice dials out to my contact.  I thought it was the same thing on Android phones.

[sigil]

Or out of 3G coverage :P

I decided against using GV as my primary number, mostly because a lot of reviews on the net talk about delays on phone calls and text messages.  Not worth it just to save $15 or so a month.  Meanwhile, my Droid should be here tomorrow, yay.

Voice works just fine out here in 2G land. I've yet to see those delays either.

[MuffinMan]

Wow then I must be doing it wrong.  So when you place your call through the Google Voice app, does Google Voice first call your phone and you pick it up, and then Google Voice dials out to your contact?  Or does it call your contact directly after you select one?

On my PC, when I log into Google Voice and place a call Google Voice first calls me back on my PC (and Gizmo5 picks it up) and then Google Voice dials out to my contact.  I thought it was the same thing on Android phones.

When you place a call using Google Voice through the app, it firsts dials a GV access number and then that dials out to the person you are trying to reach. It's pretty seamless but if you look at the screen you can see the access number it dials first.

Google Voice DOES use your plan minutes since it dials the access number first and it uses anytime minutes not mobile to mobile regardless of the type of phone you are trying to reach. Now the nice thing is if you can get unlimited calling to a favorite number, add the access number and since everything is funneled through it you get unlimited minutes. The number changes every now and then though.

[sigil]

I've got you clearly now, ffc. I have my  my voice number as  a fave, so I don't see minutes spent.

[ffc]

Ok got it working.  I tried everything to be able to dial out directly (GV app, GV Dialer, etc.) but nothing does the job so now I place and receive calls with my Google Voice number over WiFi through the mobile browser without using any mobile minutes.  If I dial directly through the Phone/Contacts apps then I can still place calls but my number shows up differently and Gizmo5 charges $0.01/min.  If anyone needs help setting it up just let me know.

This may all be for naught though since VoIP on my Nexus One is terrible.  Complete audio and mic static and cutting in/out.  On my PC I have never had problems with call quality.  I've tried the phone with two different WiFi spots and will try a third later today.  I haven't read about anyone else having a similar problem.

[KallDrexx]

This is awesome, I left WebOS at the right time.  I'm loving how much smoother everything is with the Droid.

*edit* And the Swype keyboard is amazing!

[ffc]

Link:  http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/12/30/how-to-get-swype-on-android/

[MahrinSkel]

For whoever it was that was pissing and moaning about how third-party open platforms aren't all that: The last page or two is why you're wrong.  A lot of this stuff would not be allowed on iPhone because somebody with pull at Apple would make sure it couldn't happen, even if that took bricking a bunch of phones.

--Dave

[Quinton]

The brother of a coworker of mine selected what is possibly the best engraving text possible:

[Teleku]

Aaaand if I ever actually get a new phone, I'm getting that engraving.    for sure.

[KallDrexx]

Quick question that I can't seem to find a definite answer to.

On my Droid, all the battery apps/widgets I have found only display the battery life in 10% increments.  Is there any way to see the battery life in more fine grained increments?

[Tebonas]

As a happy iphone user, I'll be getting one of these Nexuses for that spot alone if I ever need an unlocked alternative.

Fuck me indeed! 

[TripleDES]

For you N1 owners: How's music playback quality on headphones? I keep reading some stuff about it being a little weak on bass and a little tinny depending on music style.

[Quinton]

Quick question that I can't seem to find a definite answer to.

On my Droid, all the battery apps/widgets I have found only display the battery life in 10% increments.  Is there any way to see the battery life in more fine grained increments?

This is a limitation of the battery driver for the Droid, which only reports to userspace in 10% increments (why? no clue, somebody at moto might know...). 

[Quinton]

For you N1 owners: How's music playback quality on headphones? I keep reading some stuff about it being a little weak on bass and a little tinny depending on music style.

Sounds fine to me, using the sony in-ear headphones I like.  I'm not even close to audiophile level picky about this sort of thing though, so you probably will want some more data points.

[Yegolev]

I seem to be having a call-goes-straight-to-voicemail problem with my Droid.  The call also does not log in my, uh, call log.  Very occasionally but one time is too many.  Android or Verizon?

[MuffinMan]

I assume you're not taking calls through Google Voice?

[Yegolev]

I am not.  I'd very possibly like to set it up but that is a task for another day.

[Quinton]

I seem to be having a call-goes-straight-to-voicemail problem with my Droid.  The call also does not log in my, uh, call log.  Very occasionally but one time is too many.  Android or Verizon?

My suspicion is it'd be a Verizon issue, but I'm much more familiar with UMTS than CDMA network interactions.  Not getting any missed call notification seems strange.

[Engels]

Heard about this somewhere, can't remember where. Did a quick google for 'straight to voicemail android' and came up with many a hit, with quite a few originating in the UK. So I think it may be an android issue. A quick fix seems to be to use Edge rather than 3G. Aswome solution, I know.

[Quinton]

But we're talking about Verizon's CDMA network here, which is a totally different critter than EDGE/UMTS networks... not to say it *couldn't* be an OS or hardware issue, of course, just that I'm not convinced it is in this case.

[sigil]

So what's this about Google totally screwing up the launch of these things, and the Nexus 1 having shitty g3 reception?

[Salamok]

Did a quick google for 'straight to voicemail android' and came up with many a hit

I imagine it did since the droid has a contact option called "send calls directly to voicemail".  

I had this problem all the time with my AT&T phone, whenever I was in a deadspot (like for example the 8 hours I was at work) calls would go straight to voice mail as my phone was unreachable.  I would eventually get a new voice mail alert but never get a missed call alert.

[ffc]

My Nexus One beef is its bad VoIP call quality which is especially disconcerting in light of other phones like the Droid using the same apps and connection over WiFi or 3G having good VoIP call quality.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4f3e4a5e86767e31&hl=en

[Trippy]

So what's this about Google totally screwing up the launch of these things, and the Nexus 1 having shitty g3 reception?

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/01/13/1915242/Nexus-One-Owners-Report-Spotty-3G-Signals-On-T-Mobile

[Yegolev]

I had this problem all the time with my AT&T phone, whenever I was in a deadspot (like for example the 8 hours I was at work) calls would go straight to voice mail as my phone was unreachable.  I would eventually get a new voice mail alert but never get a missed call alert.

Sounds about right.  Due to geography, Verizon has a shit signal in my house.  I'll blame VZW since I toggled the straight-to-vm box and it still does it from time to time.

Interestingly, one of my contacts was going to VM all day until I toggled that box and things were OK after that.  If not for that occurrence, I'd not suspect Android at all.

[Cheddar]

I seem to be having a call-goes-straight-to-voicemail problem with my Droid.  The call also does not log in my, uh, call log.  Very occasionally but one time is too many.  Android or Verizon?

I get the same thing.  Its completely random, but annoying.

I still love my Droid. 

[NiX]

I seem to be having a call-goes-straight-to-voicemail problem with my Droid.  The call also does not log in my, uh, call log.  Very occasionally but one time is too many.  Android or Verizon?

I've been having this issue lately with my HTC S720 on a CDMA network. Often times I'll even be holding the phone and next thing I know a VM notification comes through and my friends tell me it just went straight through to my VM.

[TripleDES]

Christ, I wish there was some info on when Google's going to expand that silly selling scheme of theirs to include bumfuck countries like Belgium, where I live.

[Draegan]

I'm switching back to Verizon once they get the Nexus One.  Can anyone compare the G1 to the Nexus One in regards to the keyboard, or lack of one?

[schild]

I just switched over to the Nexus One. The soft keyboard is lacking compared to hardware ones, but every single thing about the phone is better. From speed to the external speaker to the menus to the performance of Google Maps. It's just an all around fantastic phone... except for the lack of butans. It makes the Droid look relatively primitive as well. Oh, and it has the best camera I've experienced on a phone yet. Dropbox needs to make an Android app so I can sync seamlessly.

[Draegan]

Those were my assumptions.  Now Verizon needs to move chop chop like.  I wonder how much this will cost me to leave my contract months early and canceling my family plan and opening a new one.