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lamaros
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on: October 18, 2008, 09:54:00 PM

Probably the greatest film of all time, right?

I know there have to be some people out there who love it as much as I do, though History has tended to argue otherwise.
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Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 10:49:00 PM

Loved the movie as well.

And fuck anybody who didn't.

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Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 11:12:06 PM

Loved the movie as well.

And fuck anybody who didn't.


That pretty much sums it up for me as well. 
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Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 12:00:38 AM

Worst. Ending. Ever.

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Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 12:05:57 AM

I wouldn't say the greatest, but I do like this type sci-fi film quite a bit. Not to make a straight comparison or anything, but one film I always thought this had similarities with is Total Recall. Both are colorful, and not strictly just sci-fi, but adventure as well.... I wish there were more movies like them.
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Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 12:17:39 AM

Best sci-fi movie ever.
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Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 12:20:09 AM

Worst. Ending. Ever.

You're doing it wrong. The ending is  Heart.

I wouldn't say the greatest, but I do like this type sci-fi film quite a bit. Not to make a straight comparison or anything, but one film I always thought this had similarities with is Total Recall. Both are colorful, and not strictly just sci-fi, but adventure as well.... I wish there were more movies like them.

Well there's always Starship Troopers and Johnny Mnemonic. I don't find that they get the same energy and fun in them though. Starship Troopers is too much of a pisstake, and Johnny Mnemonic is just a genuinely 'B' SF.

I saw Total Recall the first time the other day and was a bit unimpressed. The short story is much better. (Whereas the Johnny Mnemonic short story is godawful)
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Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 12:21:22 AM

Love this movie. My favourite moment may very well be the fighting scene while the opera singer performs, but the rest of the movie kicks ass too.
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Reply #8 on: October 19, 2008, 12:23:18 AM

Love this movie. My favourite moment may very well be the fighting scene while the opera singer performs, but the rest of the movie kicks ass too.

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That scene is just perfect.
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Reply #9 on: October 19, 2008, 01:02:44 AM

Worst. Ending. Ever.

You're doing it wrong. The ending is  Heart.

I wouldn't say the greatest, but I do like this type sci-fi film quite a bit. Not to make a straight comparison or anything, but one film I always thought this had similarities with is Total Recall. Both are colorful, and not strictly just sci-fi, but adventure as well.... I wish there were more movies like them.

Well there's always Starship Troopers and Johnny Mnemonic. I don't find that they get the same energy and fun in them though. Starship Troopers is too much of a pisstake, and Johnny Mnemonic is just a genuinely 'B' SF.

I saw Total Recall the first time the other day and was a bit unimpressed. The short story is much better. (Whereas the Johnny Mnemonic short story is godawful)

Count me in the rare few (few-few-few) who likes Johnny Mnemonic. I mean, I can still recognize it's bad, of course.. but the premise and aesthetics are still very cool. Plus, Ice-T and Rollins are pretty good in it.

I watched Total Recall recently too, which is where it dawned on me that there was a similarity. I still like it a lot. Fifth Element is better though.
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Reply #10 on: October 19, 2008, 01:45:15 AM

Count me in the rare few (few-few-few) who likes Johnny Mnemonic. I mean, I can still recognize it's bad, of course.. but the premise and aesthetics are still very cool. Plus, Ice-T and Rollins are pretty good in it.

You forget Dolf! And Dina Meyer!

I love Johnny Mnemonic, but it's mostly with irony. How can you not love Jones, after all. And Keanu's terrible acting is entirely hilarious at one or two points.
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Reply #11 on: October 19, 2008, 02:15:36 AM

Probably one of my top 3 favourite movies.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 02:18:31 AM

I too cannot fault this movie in any way and love it unconditionally

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Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 04:48:14 AM

You mean the one with Sweaty Willis and the Zombie killing chick ?

Pure Pish.

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Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 04:50:21 AM

12 Monkeys was a far better Willis flick. 

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Reply #15 on: October 19, 2008, 04:54:43 AM

You mean the one with Sweaty Willis and the Zombie killing chick ?

Pure Pish.

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Reply #16 on: October 19, 2008, 06:48:49 AM

First Juno and now this? Looks like we've discovered your hidden weakness.

I liked Juno, and I also love The Fifth Element. Ironwood is just weird :D

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Reply #17 on: October 19, 2008, 07:42:31 AM

I have a terrible memory for movies but The Fifth Element is one of the few that I consistently remember as being a truly incredible movie.  God that was good.  Very few movies are great at everything, it had a great plot, perfect casting, incredible soundtrack, action, humour.  Fuck.
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Reply #18 on: October 19, 2008, 09:54:47 PM

It's great, but never seems to come up in conversation, and I never see it on any top movie lists for some reason.

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Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 05:44:00 AM

...and I never see it on any top movie lists for some reason.

That reason would be "Chris Tucker".

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Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 06:12:42 AM

He fits his role to a fucking T. Who else could have played that character?

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Reply #21 on: October 20, 2008, 06:18:50 AM

It may have been the only movie that I thought Tucker "worked" in. Count me on the list of people who love this movie. Willis is well cast, Oldman is among the best badguy actors ever, and it had both Tiny Lister and Brion James in speaking roles!

Oh, and it had Milla. Which was really all it needed.

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Reply #22 on: October 20, 2008, 10:26:57 AM

He fits his role to a fucking T. Who else could have played that character?

That's as maybe but the role itself was entirely pointless and more than a little fucking annoying.

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Reply #23 on: October 20, 2008, 10:28:10 AM

He fits his role to a fucking T. Who else could have played that character?
That's as maybe but the role itself was entirely pointless and more than a little fucking annoying.
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Reply #24 on: October 20, 2008, 10:55:46 AM

The Chris Tucker part was originally offered to Prince, but he said no. And yes, Fifth Element is good stuff. I Heart Luc Besson in general. I just wish he would quit directing kids movies and exec producing Jet Li flicks or whatever, and turn out another movie on the order of Leon or Nikita.

He supposedly wrote a 'Mathilda the Cleaner' script that Natalie Portman thought was brilliant (not that she's an authority, but she was the only one to speak of it publicly) a couple years ago, but it never went anywhere.

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Reply #25 on: October 20, 2008, 11:07:33 AM

12 Monkeys was a far better Willis flick. 

Now you're just trolling smiley

12 Monkeys wasn't a Willis flick. It was a flick with people in it. To this day I still don't get why they tapped him for that roll. Shoulda been Kevin Spacey.

12 Monkey was a good Willis flick.
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Reply #26 on: October 20, 2008, 01:54:49 PM

To this day I still don't get why they tapped him for that roll. Shoulda been Kevin Spacey.
Willis was there to make us assume that there would be a lot of action scenes, and then to contrast his child-like brutality with the psychologically repressed modern world. Willis plays likeable thugs... so he was perfect as the lost and hapless protagonist. Spacey, on the other hand, plays dangerous intellectuals. He would have looked silly behaving with such physical violence, and we would have been disappointed if he didn't actually figure things out by the end.

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Reply #27 on: October 20, 2008, 02:08:28 PM

He fits his role to a fucking T. Who else could have played that character?

Agreed. His role in this was why I wanted to see Rush Hour.

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Reply #28 on: October 20, 2008, 04:52:30 PM

Worst. Ending. Ever.

You're doing it wrong. The ending is  Heart.

I thought the fifth element was  Hearttongue

Seriously, though, the little puzzle with the elements at the end was like something I would have written to end a D&D adventure in 6th grade.

Also for a dude who the movie presents like he's supposed to be some kind of evil genius, the badguy is incredibly, stunningly stupid.

I liked a lot of the other stuff, but the movie just doesn't hold together well for me.

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Reply #29 on: October 20, 2008, 07:33:49 PM

Probably the greatest film of all time, right?

I know there have to be some people out there who love it as much as I do, though History has tended to argue otherwise.

Love it. It rules.

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Reply #30 on: October 20, 2008, 08:41:41 PM

You're doing it wrong. The ending is  Heart.

I thought the fifth element was  Hearttongue

Seriously, though, the little puzzle with the elements at the end was like something I would have written to end a D&D adventure in 6th grade.

Also for a dude who the movie presents like he's supposed to be some kind of evil genius, the badguy is incredibly, stunningly stupid.

I liked a lot of the other stuff, but the movie just doesn't hold together well for me.

Like I said, you're doing it wrong! The ending is simple and corny and D&D lite. That's the point.

Evil is, as I have heard someone else put it, "a big expanding ball of hot chocolate". Bad guys are grey and have ears. Everyone wears organge plastic. Evil genius has absurd haircut and accent. Milla loves chicken! Bruce freezes the general and the other two and doesn't care. The president is a clueless idiot. The scientists boffins are balding. Everyone is going to save the world, etc, etc.

The point is it funny and fun and good to look at and cheerful. And straightforward. Guy gets girl. The world is saved. Love conquers all, etc.
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Reply #31 on: October 20, 2008, 09:11:04 PM

One of those rare moments I totally agree with lamaros.

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Reply #32 on: October 20, 2008, 09:26:03 PM

12 Monkeys was a far better Willis flick. 

Now you're just trolling smiley

12 Monkeys wasn't a Willis flick. It was a flick with people in it. To this day I still don't get why they tapped him for that roll. Shoulda been Kevin Spacey.

12 Monkey was a good Willis flick.

12 Monkeys was a Gilliam flick.  Bruce wanted desparately to be in a serious movie where he wasn't some one liner action hero.  Gilliam said, "Sure, but I can't pay you" and Willis said, "OK I'm in".  And that, dear friends, is movie making history.

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Reply #33 on: October 21, 2008, 05:03:37 AM

I Heart Luc Besson in general. I just wish he would quit directing kids movies and exec producing Jet Li flicks or whatever, and turn out another movie on the order of Leon or Nikita.

Yes.

Have you seen Angel-A? It's something I missed and still haven't got around to seeing.

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Reply #34 on: October 21, 2008, 08:48:38 AM

I'm with Ingmar. I got to the end of that movie and thought "WTF did I just watch?" It wasn't just the ending, though, it was its inability to combine the elements (no pun intended) of comedy, space opera, action flick, and message movie. It was utter chaos and completely disjointed. From the love for it that I see here I can only conclude that it just wasn't for me.
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