PvP Guilds in WoW

[Signe]

Here's a list so far, from the pages of Sinister:

East Pvp server (server 4)

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Alliance
--
DiE
Inner Circle
House Lok-Ri

Horde
--
Blackguard
Shadows of Carnage
Covetous Crew
Goon Squad
Darkenbane
Circle Noir
PinkFLuffyBunnies

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Central PVP(server 6 or first pvp server on the list)

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Alliance
SINister
The Regulators
Dark Solstice Addition
The Ancient Order
PRX
House of Sagacious
Defenders of Order (alliance)
House of Wrath
--

Horde
LOTD
Nurfed
Saecula omnius Bellum
The Mercs
Undead Lords
Facultas Utrimque
Minium ( Hate wanna bes)
DDH
FPDOMS
The Cabal
KoS
Order of the Severed Claw
Soldiers of Bria
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Pacific PVP (server 9)
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Alliance
--
Dominion of Chaos
Good Squad ALLIANCE
Knights of GLory and Beer



Horde
--
ICECLAN
WaR
Lords of Death
Wandering Horde
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Mountain PVP (server 12)
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Alliance
--

Horde
---
DoO Horde team

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Somthing PVP (server 13)
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Alliance

Horde
---
Feral Uprising(combine)
Ow (fatalis)


Pacific PVP (server 14)
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Alliance
--



Horde
--

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Europe:
SuN
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Guilds that went CAREBEAR:
FoH
Conquest


Undeclared banananipples who cant decide which server to play on.

KAAOS

Seems 6 is the place to be if you want some of that good old fashioned Shadowbane tough talk.

[schild]

If I were playing, I'd be all over server 14. Fuck PVP Guilds.

Edit: Just for the record, I've never been griefed or touched in a bad place by a pvp guild - I just don't like them. Much like I don't like games that cater to them in any way, shape, or form.

[Paelos]

My guild from DAOC recently said that they were planning to move into PvP servers after launch as the home base. If that is the case, I'll be looking for a new guild in WoW shortly because there is absolutely no way I'm playing on a full PvP e-peen server.

[AlteredOne]

My guild from DAOC recently said that they were planning to move into PvP servers after launch as the home base. If that is the case, I'll be looking for a new guild in WoW shortly because there is absolutely no way I'm playing on a full PvP e-peen server.

Paelos from Lancelot?  Savage Truth guild?  I'm Boarshead from Lance.  I'm not sure a PvP server would bother me, since the allowed PvP areas have limits.  But I will be the first to admit, I do not really understand the dynamics of WoW PvP, since I have only tried it for about 2 days in beta.

[HaemishM]

Some of those PVP servers sound like a trifecta of asshole.

I'm with schild. 14 sounds damn good.

[Threash]

A good half of those guilds are former SB big houses, im starting to think that game is doomed after seeing how deserted it looks lately.

[Ardent]

Fuck PVP Guilds.

A. Men.

I tried the PvP server in beta, and hated it. Blizzard insisted that this was not the PvP model that would be implemented in retail.

Well, guess what ... it IS the PvP model that is being shipped in retail, the only difference being that griefer kiddies can now get whiz-bang titles to display to the world what asstards they are, giving them even more incentive to grief.

Whack-a-mole with my friends is fun enough for me to justify a WoW purchase.

[stray]

Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between the PvP and Normal servers? Does that mean no PvP whatsoever on Normal, or just that it's not open PvP?

EDIT: Sorry, all I had to do was read. Anyways....I dunno, PvP servers seem a heck of a lot more fun. 14 is a good choice. As for server 6, gosh, I'm not defending them or anything, but SB was actually fun when those guilds were playing. Have you seen it lately? Most of the players left now are 10x worse.

[Signe]

I got tired of playing with all those guilds in SB.  Darph - Sin is already making lists and I would prefer whatever guild I'm in to avoid being on his list, quite honestly.  There are several people I am friendly with in some of them, but I'm weary of them as a group.  Server 14 or anything else is fine by me.  I even went on an rp server the other day to avoid the newbie crowds while I tried a new character, but keeping a Shakespeare translator running in the background becaem annoying.

I bumped into Haemcow on server 28 yesterday... he seems like a nice man.

[Ardent]

Sorry for the dumb question, but what's the difference between the PvP and Normal servers? Does that mean no PvP whatsoever on Normal, or just that it's not open PvP?

On the PvP server, you can attack any player of the opposite realm (Alliance vs. Horde) outside of a few "safe" zones (typically, the newbie areas).

On the normal servers, you can only attack other players who:
a) are in a designated Battleground zone (not implemented yet)
b) attack a guard or NPC in an enemy area
c) flag themselves for pvp by typing /pvp, or try to help or heal someone who is flagged /pvp

During beta, the PvP server was griefer heaven, especially in places like Hillsbrad where high-level Alliance players had easy access to low-level Horde players. There was no system in place to prevent level 50 players from slaughtering entire teams of level 25-30 players. If a player 20 levels higher than you decided to camp your corpse and kill you each time you respawned, your only options were to use the spirit healer (which had an XP hit) or just log out and wait for the griefer to go bug the shit out of someone else.

There are new systems in place that will supposedly alleviate the griefing, like giving people "bad" points when they kill players significantly lower than them. Of course, this just promotes the behavior, as these doofuses try to see how many "bad" points they can accumulate.

In any case, if you play on the normal server, you don't have to worry about any of that shit unless you want to.

[stray]

During beta, the PvP server was griefer heaven, especially in places like Hillsbrad where high-level Alliance players had easy access to low-level Horde players.

Is there any way to level without going into these areas? If not, then I see a problem.

[Ardent]

That was the exact problem ... Horde characters of level 25-30 had pretty much no options for questing besides Hillsbrad.

[Disco Stu]

Test 28 is also pretty much douche bag free as well. So far I've seen about 3 guilds only one of which (Iron Monkeys via DAOC) was formed pre WOW. I also havn't had any problems with being ganked so far but that might be because there are no high levels on the server.

[Righ]

Fuck PVP Guilds.

Three types of server, three types of retards. On the PvP servers, we have the wankers who torture insects for fun, and think that killing another player will upset that player to the degree that they get upset when their big brother beats the shit out of them. On the RP servers, we have the wankers who are name nazis, speech nazis and general pedants and thought police. On the regular servers, we have the persecuted, who in absence of the thought police or the bullied thugs feel free to annoy the fuck out of you by singing Survivor lyrics on broadcast chennels.

[Signe]

GEORGE CHENNEL was executed August, 1818 for the atrocious murder of his father and his housekeeper, at Godalming.

I've been to Godalming.  It's creepy.

[Signe]

Someone in the Tauren area announced that PvP guilds from server 6 were moving to 28 because of the lag.  Idiots.  The lag will follow them to server 28... well, actually it's there waiting for them already.  14 sounds better and better, although I'm actually considering moving to a Normal server.  I know PvP brings out the stupid in a lot of people, but WoW PvP brings out the most stupid I've seen yet.

I might enjoy this game with restricted PvP, anyway.  I'm not sure, though.  I do know that I've not been able to maintain much interest in games with no PvP.  Someone... tell me what to do, please.

[stray]

Someone... tell me what to do, please.

If you're already into PvP, then you need players, competitive players, sometimes nasty players, to push you into something resembling "fun". Can you really enjoy yet another MMOG if all you had to depend on was the same old, played out game mechanics?

[Viin]

Ah, but the mechanics aren't the same. The combatants might be, but this time we have baseball bats instead of knives. It could be fun!

And just because we like competition doesn't mean we have to like dealing with (or deal with at all, period) "nasty players". Also, we aren't being "pushed" into something "fun", we _want_ to be challenged by fellow human beings. AI scripts are so droll the 2nd time you encounter them.

[Ardent]

Three types of server, three types of retards.

True ... but only the wankers on the PvP server can have a direct impact on my fun.

The dipwads on the RP and normal servers can just be tuned out. (I recommend that if anyone still believes there is any decency left in human beings, they should /ignore the common chat channels, or your delusions will finally be shattered beyond repair.)

[Draive]

People who advocate against PVP servers are typically people who are not confident enough in life to take chances, develop themselves or interact in any competitive nature. They are in reality the same people who never played sports in highschool, took out that girl they liked to the prom and generaly are introverts who have no extreme emotions whether the emotions be good or bad.

PvP players on the other hand are the same ones who are your managers and boss's in the real world. They are challenging the norm, moving up in life and are generally more well adapted to this harsh cruel realm we call planet Earth. True some are young and immature as shit, but so are half you pseudo-intellectual nerds like Sir Bruce (sorry for the dis, but you are a geek).

Who the hell wants to fight "AI" over and over? Once you learn the mobs and the idealogy behind the programming there really is no challenge.. its not like this is a chess match against Deep Blue.

Take on a real challenge, win some loose a lot ... get off your high-horses and fight for once.


-d

[chinslim]

I recognize guilds from all over: my old server from UO to various servers I've played in DAOC.

IMO, established guilds from other games that enter new games never do as well or don't last as long.  It's simply because the interests of the members become divided between old and new and the guild loses its cohesion.

Give it 2-3 months: new power guilds will form established by the dedicated hardcore gamers.

[Righ]

PvP players on the other hand are the same ones who are your managers and boss's in the real world.

That's funny.

idealogy behind the programming

How deep.

[MrHat]

PvP players on the other hand are the same ones who are your managers and boss's in the real world.

That's funny.

idealogy behind the programming

How deep.

I'm going to go ahead and second Righ's insight.

Sigh.

Edit: Smells like eSpirit.

[Shockeye]

Take on a real challenge, win some loose a lot ... get off your high-horses and fight for once.

I bow to your giant throbbing cock.

[schild]

People who advocate against PVP servers are typically people who are not confident enough in life to take chances, develop themselves or interact in any competitive nature. They are in reality the same people who never played sports in highschool, took out that girl they liked to the prom and generaly are introverts who have no extreme emotions whether the emotions be good or bad.

I played Varsity Soccer for my high school from freshman to senior year. I started all 4 years. I was the top scorer the last 2 until a back injury kept me from playing pretty much ever again.

I dated more girls than a catasser like you ever will.

Here's an extreme emotion:

People who take chances, like myself, realize there's nothing "gutsy" about playing on pvp servers. It's all about avoiding cock-knobblers like yourself who have nothing to do but rationalize their position in the online gaming world. Please, the next time you want to make an argument - do a little research about who it is you're assaulting.

P.S. Bruce is more furry than geek. Also, his avatar was his mugshut during an investigation into his moonlighting as a serial killer. A man like that should not be trifled with.

That said, PVP servers suck ass because of people like you and the swine you associate yourself with. Call me when you have pubes.

[MrHat]

People who advocate against PVP servers are typically people who are not confident enough in life to take chances, develop themselves or interact in any competitive nature. They are in reality the same people who never played sports in highschool, took out that girl they liked to the prom and generaly are introverts who have no extreme emotions whether the emotions be good or bad.

PvP players on the other hand are the same ones who are your managers and boss's in the real world. They are challenging the norm, moving up in life and are generally more well adapted to this harsh cruel realm we call planet Earth. True some are young and immature as shit, but so are half you pseudo-intellectual nerds like Sir Bruce (sorry for the dis, but you are a geek).

Who the hell wants to fight "AI" over and over? Once you learn the mobs and the idealogy behind the programming there really is no challenge.. its not like this is a chess match against Deep Blue.

Take on a real challenge, win some loose a lot ... get off your high-horses and fight for once.


-d

Approximately four months before World of Warcraft's release (and after two months of debate), ML officially changed its tag to "Dark Solstice". The name possesses meaning, as it signifies several aspects of our past.

We plan to be the strongest once agian. God have mercy on anyone that gets in our way.

Draive
Dark Solstice

dun dun dun!

[Joe]

People who advocate against PVP servers are typically people who are not confident enough in life to take chances, develop themselves or interact in any competitive nature. They are in reality the same people who never played sports in highschool, took out that girl they liked to the prom and generaly are introverts who have no extreme emotions whether the emotions be good or bad.

PvP players on the other hand are the same ones who are your managers and boss's in the real world. They are challenging the norm, moving up in life and are generally more well adapted to this harsh cruel realm we call planet Earth. True some are young and immature as shit, but so are half you pseudo-intellectual nerds like Sir Bruce (sorry for the dis, but you are a geek).

Who the hell wants to fight "AI" over and over? Once you learn the mobs and the idealogy behind the programming there really is no challenge.. its not like this is a chess match against Deep Blue.

Take on a real challenge, win some loose a lot ... get off your high-horses and fight for once.


-d

This is completely true in all cases and can never be refuted.

-d

[Ardent]

patronizing bullshit

Who wants to fight AI over and over? Well ... um ... for starters, you. Because you cannot get to max level to show off your ooberskillz without progressing through the PvE environment.

You know what ... I would respond further, but unfortunately as I'm reading through your post, I can't stop yawning.

And please ask your fourth grade teacher how to properly spell "lose".

[Romp]

I don't see what the big deal is with the so called community on pvp servers.  There are plenty of guilds on pvp servers who are not made up of asshats, join one of them, turn off general chat so you dont need to listen to crap from the general community, group with your guild and there you go.

You can't even communicate with the enemy so the only shit talking etc will be on forums.

[Morfiend]

I don't see what the big deal is with the so called community on pvp servers.  There are plenty of guilds on pvp servers who are not made up of asshats, join one of them, turn off general chat so you dont need to listen to crap from the general community, group with your guild and there you go.

You can't even communicate with the enemy so the only shit talking etc will be on forums.

That is what I do Romp. My guild is playing on Test 6. We like a few of the guilds on the horde side, and hope for skilled enemies on the alliance side. We let our actions speak. We dont really allow any shit talking.

PvP players on the other hand are the same ones who are your managers and boss's in the real world.

That's funny.

idealogy behind the programming

How deep.

I'm going to go ahead and second Righ's insight.

Sigh.

Edit: Smells like eSpirit.

ePeen?

[Signe]

Call me when you have pubes.

I'm sure you didn't mean that, but just in case... What were you thinking?

Tonight I was followed for 10 minutes by 3 players who ran around and jumped over me, continuosly.  The same guy asked me to duel 4 times in a row.  I was spammed to join a guild, over and over.  The loonies were out tonight.  Some things you can't turn off, unfortunately.  For the most part, I'm not especially bothered by that sort of behaviour.  During the week, I generally play days when these guys would be at school annoying girls during recess.  

I probably will end up playing on PvP servers, as it's one more aspect of the game to keep me interested.  I will, however, keep in mind what guilds are playing those servers and it will probably affect my decision.  I became tired of a lot of those guilds in Shadowbane and would much prefer to avoid them.  I don't miss all the arguing.  Of course, it's a completely different sort of game and maybe it'll have a lighter, less depressing atmosphere once sides are chosen.  It's ironic that Sinister and The Regulators have chosen Alliance.

Of course, by the time they actually get the siege stuff in, I'm likely to have moved on to another game, anyway.

[MrHat]

PvP server for me and my crew of RL bros.  Simply to grief Night Elf characters.  I'm a bastard.

Of course, by the time they actually get the siege stuff in, I'm likely to have moved on to another game, anyway.

This is most likely the case for me too Signe.  I pray they get the Battlegrounds in the first patch, or my attention span won't make it past 5 weeks.

Edit: Why am I awakE?

[stray]

Just so you know, I suggested PvP for Signe only because she's enjoyed it before. I'm not going to analyze what type of person it takes to like PvP or not, other than that some people try to make the best of it and some don't. Even if there are particularly nasty players, it feels just as good to shut them up as it does (for others) to avoid them.

Whether PvP'ers went to prom or work in managerial positions, I don't know. I got kicked out every school I was in, never went to prom, and for the most part, work at home.

[Signe]

I do enjoy PvP, although I kind of suck at it.  It's the element of any game that is the most exciting.  But, above all, I enjoy PvP that isn't made personal by immature and nasty behaviour.  I don't enjoy it when it becomes rift with trash talking exploiters.  Many of the people in the guilds listed above were just that, too.  We spent half our time in SB on boards accusing them while they spent their time either defending their actions, denying provable evidence and spewing the most vile garbage at those who called them on their exploits.  I can't even count how many times I received /tells from people in game insulting me for no reason other than the guild I was in.  It was very much a bother.

Once most people have decided on a server for release, I'm sure I'll end up choosing that server, as will Righ, most likely.  (he's much better at PvP than me!)  Even if things go a bit pear shaped, I have no trouble starting a new character elsewhere.  I should think it won't be such a big deal in this game... SB was very quick to level and start in on the PvP fun, but it had certain elements that made it difficult to move to a new server.  I simply left the game when all the ugly became widespread.  Well, I admit that the technical issues made my departure easier, too.

[Kageru]

The normal server ruleset just seems to have all the advantages to me. You still have PvP in the form of town invasions, arena's, duels and battlefields you just don't have the griefing and ambushes when you're not in a PvP stance. Of course I expect the PvP servers to perform their normal function of being the sewer for all the unsavory elements of the player base to lurk within, so I  certainly don't mind their  existence.