Fable II

[Morfiend]

WARNING!!!!

If you decide you want to play a character of a different alignment, it will overwrite your saved game. DO NOT MAKE A NEW CHARACTER IF YOU STILL WANT TO PLAY YOUR FIRST ONE.

This is fucking bullshit. The game doesn't warn you ether. I found this out the hard way. Oh yeah, and the reward unlocks from www.fable2.com webgame are a one time use also.

Very angry.

[LK]

That's odd. When I was doing Co-Op it seemed to indicate it was possible to have multiple saves.

I should have known though. You can gift other players cash, and running multiple characters would turn them into gold mines.

[Valmorian]

WARNING!!!!

If you decide you want to play a character of a different alignment, it will overwrite your saved game. DO NOT MAKE A NEW CHARACTER IF YOU STILL WANT TO PLAY YOUR FIRST ONE.

This is fucking bullshit. The game doesn't warn you ether. I found this out the hard way. Oh yeah, and the reward unlocks from www.fable2.com webgame are a one time use also.

Very angry.

No it doesn't.  I did this last night and have two saves.

[schild]

We have 3 characters, it's not a problem.

[AcidCat]

Co-op sucks because - even over Live, when you join a friends game you have to play as a generic henchman, not your character. And you are still limited to staying on the same screen as your friend, just like offline coop, which can be very awkward at times. Both of these choices seem entirely pointless and are disappointing.

On the single player game, I played about 3 hours last night and am getting into it. It starts out kinda slow, and it took a bit to get used to the Fable quirks like no jumping, and the fact your character doesn't really speak - the emotes are cool of course but otherwise you stand there staring like a deaf mute, it feels really backwards after the games I've played lately where your character has extensive voice and even options like Mass Effect.

Anyway, I enjoyed the first Fable so I knew what to expect, it's fun. The online coop limitations are just lame.

[LK]

Co-op sucks because - even over Live, when you join a friends game you have to play as a generic henchman, not your character. And you are still limited to staying on the same screen as your friend, just like offline coop, which can be very awkward at times. Both of these choices seem entirely pointless and are disappointing.

Granted, the actual Co-Op experience is meh. But every other aspect of it I find interesting. Seeing your friends in your game world, trading items between friends. Doing stuff on the website that translates to in-game benefits was also interesting. Imagine if you could do things through the game's website while you're not playing it to help your character out or unlock stuff. I'm a big fan of website stat information for in-game characters. Granting those items from the Fable II website seems to be scratching the surface of something that could be much larger that could tie in with this.

[schild]

Hahahahahahah lol coop. Tacked on, as I guessed.

[kildorn]

If you want dickloads of money, buy a few income generating locations, then fast travel from two very distant locations rapidly.

Sure, it's a lot of load screens, but you get income based on in game time passed, which means you show up to a spam of funds changing.

I'm strange. I dislike the game's plot (really, guys?), and the moral choices are obnoxiously silly most of the time.

But I adore the combat, and the no death system. Because it focuses you more on enjoying the game and less on worrying about never taking damage and shit.

I'm having issues getting the sword fighting to work reliably (I can't figure out what causes the time slow big hits versus the normal big hits for the life of me), but it's downright artistic at times.

[Valmorian]

I'm strange. I dislike the game's plot (really, guys?), and the moral choices are obnoxiously silly most of the time.

Agreed.  The moral system is particularly laugh-worthy.  The AI/reaction from villagers is hilariously bad.  I made the most evil character I could think of, yet I can get almost any woman in the world to want to marry me by rapidly pressing RIGHT on my d-pad.
HAH.

[schild]

In other news: Morfiend feels like a jackoff.

[Morfiend]

/facepalm

[RUiN 427]

Treated.

It was funny last night seeing morfiend's floating orb chopping wood and scrambling up and down the pathways. As for the online co-op i still have some questions before i invite someone int my "good" campaign. In the same video where PM was talkign about how you bring your full character, gear, stats and everything into your friends campaign, he said you could kill thier wife or dog and they would not be able to get them back... is this also a lie?

[kildorn]

I'm strange. I dislike the game's plot (really, guys?), and the moral choices are obnoxiously silly most of the time.

Agreed.  The moral system is particularly laugh-worthy.  The AI/reaction from villagers is hilariously bad.  I made the most evil character I could think of, yet I can get almost any woman in the world to want to marry me by rapidly pressing RIGHT on my d-pad.
HAH.

Hey, Cheney's married I believe.

I did find it funny that the extended poses gave you a risk factor of messing them up, but you did fine with them if you just used the non extended form. Same with the dog ball. Just tapping throw is perfect. Hold and try to play the minigame, and you throw the ball strange distances.

[LK]

If you want dickloads of money, buy a few income generating locations, then fast travel from two very distant locations rapidly.

I don't believe this to be true. I've slept for 7 days in an inn and didn't get any income. It's time spent not in a menu.

[NiX]

he said you could kill thier wife or dog and they would not be able to get them back... is this also a lie?

This is still true. So watch out who you let in.

[Riggswolfe]

First off, you don't have to leave your 360 on to get money. It just checks the system clock. And yes, I think if you change the clock time you could exploit money.

I'm at a game breaking bug myself. I can't finish the part of the main quest I'm on. (The one in Oakvale. A certain NPC just hangs in this cave I have to go into.) And I can't finish the archeologist quest because my game hangs on the loading screen when I try to go to where the first relic is.

The game is fun despite the bugs though.

[Morfiend]

I am enjoying the game a lot despite my multiple restarts (Playing while sleep deprived from insomnia can lead to awesome freak out posts).

I am playing as Strength and Will, using the spell Blades, which fucking rocks so far. I am going good right now, because I feel all the evil choices are so obviously EVAL!!!!11!!!1!!!11!, that its hard for me to choose them.

When playing a game like this I usually end up in the middle of alignment.

I am going to make my second (first) character pure evil magic user I think.

Note. I love that there is no mana, and I can cast any spell I want. Note 2. I hate how annoying it is to change selected spells.

[Phildo]

My first wife inexplicably left me one day when I went to sex her up.  The marriage screen showed that our relationship was fine and that she wanted sex, but when I showed up she was a queen bitch and took my child with her.

Oh well, no more daily payments.  I am so going to enjoy murdering her on my evil playthrough.

[LK]

My first wife inexplicably left me one day when I went to sex her up.  The marriage screen showed that our relationship was fine and that she wanted sex, but when I showed up she was a queen bitch and took my child with her.

Sounds amazingly true to life.

[Nazrat]

My first wife inexplicably left me one day when I went to sex her up.  The marriage screen showed that our relationship was fine and that she wanted sex, but when I showed up she was a queen bitch and took my child with her.

Oh well, no more daily payments.  I am so going to enjoy murdering her on my evil playthrough.

I think I handled this case this morning in my office. 

P.S. I work in child support. 

[AcidCat]

I am going good right now, because I feel all the evil choices are so obviously EVAL!!!!11!!!1!!!11!, that its hard for me to choose them.

Yeah I'm not even that far in the game and some of the choices are already so contrived. The very first bandit fight you get into - this shouldn't be a spoiler, it's like 30 minutes into the game if that - and the dude offers you gold for the key, or you use the key to free some slaves. Obviously the choice is to kill the fucker and take his gold, and then either let them out or leave them to rot just for the hell of it. But of course you can't do that.

[RUiN 427]

he said you could kill thier wife or dog and they would not be able to get them back... is this also a lie?

This is still true. So watch out who you let in.

/glare at morfiend... don't even think about it

p.s. nice avatar nix, that show is much better now that the writers are back and the nerdy references are more accurate

[morphie]

I am going good right now, because I feel all the evil choices are so obviously EVAL!!!!11!!!1!!!11!, that its hard for me to choose them.

Yeah I'm not even that far in the game and some of the choices are already so contrived. The very first bandit fight you get into - this shouldn't be a spoiler, it's like 30 minutes into the game if that - and the dude offers you gold for the key, or you use the key to free some slaves. Obviously the choice is to kill the fucker and take his gold, and then either let them out or leave them to rot just for the hell of it. But of course you can't do that.

I told them him I'd take the gold to not free them, then killed him, got the key, freed them and then killed them. You just have to think what the most evil thing you can do is.

[AcidCat]

I told them him I'd take the gold to not free them, then killed him, got the key, freed them and then killed them. You just have to think what the most evil thing you can do is.

Okay that is good. Hmmm, maybe I'm just not being creative enough with what you can really do.

[morphie]

I told them him I'd take the gold to not free them, then killed him, got the key, freed them and then killed them. You just have to think what the most evil thing you can do is.

Okay that is good. Hmmm, maybe I'm just not being creative enough with what you can really do.

If you killed him and he didn't have the 50g though, that is sort of annoying.

I am also somewhat annoyed at one thing in this game. If you commit murder in town and get caught, the guards rush up and give you 3 options. 1) Pay a fine, 2) Do community service, 3) resist arrest. If you choose 3 you can just kill them and they are not anywhere close to difficult enough, certainly not 1v1. If you choose 2 it gives you a mission to do to clear your name and they place you on probation. If you are on probation and kill someone, the guards come up and give you 3 options... choose community service again, rinse repeat. Pretty absurd I'd say.

[LK]

If you're a newbie the guards are pretty hard to kill. If you are uber mengsk hero then yeah, you can drop them pretty fast. They are probably the second or third highest HP guys in the game.

I did find it fascinating that the Skill thing made you taller. You gain about a foot and a half in height which is a huge difference for the female character.

[morphie]

If you're a newbie the guards are pretty hard to kill. If you are uber mengsk hero then yeah, you can drop them pretty fast. They are probably the second or third highest HP guys in the game.

I did find it fascinating that the Skill thing made you taller. You gain about a foot and a half in height which is a huge difference for the female character.

That was true in Fable 1, however, I am killing guards pretty easily in Fable 2, and this is in the first town. I can melee them and roll around, and kill them in a minute or so, and I can quite easily take on more than one at a time. If they are the highest HP in the game, I've basically already won. If I reach any tough guards, I can always tell them I'll do community service and then mosey on my merry way.

[LK]

There are mobs later on that might mess you up depending how you tackle them, but for the most part the combat in this game isn't very challenging if you are doing Ranged or Magic. Melee requires slightly more thought in how you approach it.

[RUiN 427]

this is sort of out of ignorance.. i never played evil on fable 1, but whats so evil about always apeasing the guards?

if i'm evil and i kill some guards the town should go into lock down and become an event where i have to kill all the guards and then claim the town, then it becomes a bandit town. an evil town

am i off base? or are you suposed to feel like an outsider when you go evil? and this is just a way to keep you from losing access to shops and towns?

[LK]

You can basically start shit and guards will infinitely respawn to get you. The world isn't that dynamic.

[RUiN 427]

I'm so nervous to invite anyone to my game. Is this unfounded? How bad can someone fuck it up? if they come in and start slaying townsfolk will it hurt my reputation?

[LK]

I think this is only a problem if you, as the hero, switch off Safety mode. They can't just log in and start slaughtering.

[schild]

If they slaughter everyone, housing will be cheaper. Win-win, imo.

[RUiN 427]

Played some co-op last night. The game takes on this weird brawler feel. I kinda like it. Wish the person joining you kept their appearance though. I ran a side quest with my buddy, because we didn't want to spoil the main quest for him. I wish there were repeatable co-op dungeons or something because after the side quests there was nothing but the main quest for us to do so we were left standing around saying "now what?".

I really like the game though, the floating friend orbs are funny especially when you can hear them talking to their other friends.

[LK]

If the game was actually designed with this in mind (more open areas, way more mobs to fight), then it'd be good. It's a claustrophobic camera clusterfuck otherwise.