Fable II

[schild]

My review is gonna be something of a "Harsh Reality" to some.

[LK]

 

[Azazel]

Despite not having played it, or the demo, here's my ultra-fast review of Fable 2:

Peter Molyneaux.

[Phildo]

Just beat the storyline an hour ago.  Plot = meh.  Exploration and purchasing of towns = tons of fun.

[Velorath]

The reviews for this game are depressingly upbeat. Almost slobbering in their fanboism. Hardly any mention to the multiple issues that are so prominent in the game.

It's a shame the online co-op is coming in a launch-day patch since none of the reviews are going to be able to have any impressions of it.

[schild]

The reviews for this game are depressingly upbeat. Almost slobbering in their fanboism. Hardly any mention to the multiple issues that are so prominent in the game.

It's a shame the online co-op is coming in a launch-day patch since none of the reviews are going to be able to have any impressions of it.

Judging by the way the game played, it will be a technical mess.

[Azazel]

The reviews for this game are depressingly upbeat. Almost slobbering in their fanboism. Hardly any mention to the multiple issues that are so prominent in the game.

That's what suckered me in to buying the first one on release. Never again!

[Amarr HM]

I remember being really dissapointed with Powermonger after a few hours play, it never really got any different no sticky features, yet it got 10/10 in nearly every review which either meant Molyneux has the reviewers in his pocket or they only play a game for a few hours. Same story with Black and White that dissapointed me though it seemed to get rave reviews in theory it was an amazing game.

[Yegolev]

I learned my lesson with Black & White, pretty early on I think, when I wasn't able to keep my giant cow from shitting in the granary.  I don't know what his deal was.  He'd just eat villagers and shit them into the granary, like he was mad with recycling power.  The best part of B&W was how I got the villagers to worship a boulder, but most everything else was shitty.

Fable I wasn't that bad.  It had issues but overall wasn't terrible.  I'll be getting Fable II with the idea that it will be an improved Fable, which is OK with me.

[trias_e]

Despite not having played it, or the demo, here's my ultra-fast review of Fable 2:

Peter Molyneaux.

Indeed.  We need a :lolpetermolyneuxlol: smiley.  I have no idea what it would look like, but it would involve something in which a good idea is totally fucked up, but remains decent in the end.

[schild]

My review basically calls the game a comedy of errors, overworked design, and shit quality control.

But despite all of that - and all of Molyneux's previous games, Fable 2 is undeniably fun. This thing fucking exudes soul and all those intangibles that other titles falter on - it is, at it's core - just fucking fun.

[LK]

I beat it last night. I want to kinda crack the nugget and find the rest of the secrets the world has to offer, buy up the most expensive property, and try and finish off the rest of the achievements before putting this down for good. Unfortunately due to its autosave system, it will require three playthroughs. Thankfully you can blow through the main storyline if you wanted.

Spoilerz: Oh and I'm hoping there's some way I can fix my character's appearance after refusing to sacrifice the girl for that dick Reaver. I mean, shit, seriously. He killed two people in cold blood and turned me into an old hag. I actually gave a shit about one of those guys (photographer). The red eyes and scar went away, but I still look ancient. So instead of being able to pull my gun on him in revenge / justice after the business of saving the world is done, he goes on holiday. Shit. I'm hoping the Temple of Light can undo it with a big enough donation.

[Valmorian]

With regards to your spoiler, I'm going to guess that the answer is no.  They've been pretty clear about there being sacrifices to be "good".

[RUiN 427]

so one review (before the patch) said that split screen co-op did not let the extra player use "their" character, just the stats. Is this true with the online co-op? even after the patch?

i'd be very let down if it were true

[Valmorian]

so one review (before the patch) said that split screen co-op did not let the extra player use "their" character, just the stats. Is this true with the online co-op? even after the patch?

i'd be very let down if it were true

Last I heard it's not split screen local co-op, bur rather you share the screen, and you can take experience, gold, and renown you earn back into your own game.

Reportedly anyway.

[LK]

It's not an MMO implementation of Co-Op. More like 2D Brawler style implementation, from what I read.

[RUiN 427]

so one review (before the patch) said that split screen co-op did not let the extra player use "their" character, just the stats. Is this true with the online co-op? even after the patch?

i'd be very let down if it were true

Last I heard it's not split screen local co-op, bur rather you share the screen, and you can take experience, gold, and renown you earn back into your own game.

Reportedly anyway.

yeah i used split screen as a general term for same consol co-op... i just remmber peter showing off that the xbox live co-op was set up so that your friend comes to your compaign in all of his gear and apearances and can even kill your wife or burn your house down or kill your dog... am i the victim of beleiving his lies again?

[Phildo]

I bought all the real estate in my game.  The continuous income from it all is absolutely disgusting.  Can't afford that hot new sword?  Put the game down for 10 minutes, go make some lunch, come back and buy it.

[LK]

Apparently if you turn the game off you get passive income every hour instead of every five minutes. Protip: If you want money, leave your game running.

[schild]

Apparently if you turn the game off you get passive income every hour instead of every five minutes. Protip: If you want money, leave your game running.

Horrible protip. HORRIBLE.

You want your 360 to die?

[LK]

I wouldn't recommend this if you're making less money per 5 minutes than you could questing. But for me who needs 2.5 million in cash, SPOILERS: didn't select the ending that makes tons of cash, and have to buy up all the real estate, leaving it up for an hour or two would be a good way to make income.

Oh, and you had to do this anyway for Dead Rising's 7 day Survivor achievement. u_u

[schild]

Oh, and you had to do this anyway for Dead Rising's 7 day Survivor achievement. u_u

If you got the achievement, sure.

[RUiN 427]

so i got the game at lunch and played the childhood part before heading back here to work...

how often to quests fail to activate because some stupid ai companion didn't follow you down an alley?

[schild]

Heh. Not TOO often.

[Bunk]

So am I right in guessing that the 10k I made in the pub games so far isn't going to be much of a drop in the bucket for my character's plans to take over the world?

[Phildo]

Pretty much, no.  But if you invest it wisely in real estate early on it goes a loooooong way.  I ground out about 40k chopping wood early on and bought out Oakvale and Old Bowerstone.  After that I was able to afford everything I wanted as it came up.

[Rasix]

Warning: Phil likes grinding.

[LK]

It seems like every 100 gold invested in a property gets you ~1 gold every 5 minutes. So 10k will likely get you 100 income on a property every 5 game minutes.

[Morfiend]

Warning: Phil likes grinding.

Phil, let me show you to the Warhammer Online forum.

[Nija]

So is this another 8 hour main quest piece of shit game, that lets you back-track (GET IT? RAILROAD TRACK?) through the few zones to do cutesy things to keep you occupied, like a 2 year old, for another 4-6 hours?

In other words is this the sequel to Fable 1?

[LK]

Pretty much.  They introduce new areas at a snail's pace and pretty much overutilize those areas.

[LK]

Ah hahaha. All the reviews of Fable II hit on the same day, and all of them are below 9. Only the ones above 9 were posted before 10/21. 

[Morfiend]

Ah hahaha. All the reviews of Fable II hit on the same day, and all of them are below 9. Only the ones above 9 were posted before 10/21. 

[Phildo]

Let's be fair.  No one LIKES grinding.  I just like the result of it.  And I hated every mind-numbing minute of it.

Also, I played WAR.  Oh god were the rewards for playing it horrible.

[LK]

The whole "leave your Xbox running" doesn't seem to work. Seems time spent in the pause menu counts towards "not playing" and you'll only get a credit every hour. I don't know. I have to get 1,000,000 and I have to wait for the game to give it to me.

Edit: I may say some harsh things about Fable II but what they did with Co-Op and how Xbox Live Friends interact with your games is rather fascinating. No sarcasm there.